11-10-2004, 08:53 AM
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November 10, 1975, 7:10pm. Last communication from the Edmund Fitzgerald: "We're holding our own." The signal is out at Whitefish Point; storm lashing; the Fitzgerald is still 15 miles away from the relative safety of Whitefish Bay.
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11-10-2004, 08:53 AM
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November 10, 1975, 7:10pm. Last communication from the Edmund Fitzgerald: "We're holding our own." The signal is out at Whitefish Point; storm lashing; the Fitzgerald is still 15 miles away from the relative safety of Whitefish Bay.
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11-10-2004, 09:30 AM
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Yeah, I thought of it too. One year passed for each man who died....
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11-10-2004, 09:30 AM
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Yeah, I thought of it too. One year passed for each man who died....
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11-10-2004, 12:34 PM
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I remeber the storm well. Over a 1/2 inch of freezing rain caked our trees and powerlines until they snapped. Schools and roads closed all day with 50 mph winds.
Thought the roof was going to blow off our house.
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11-10-2004, 06:26 PM
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Today 29 years ago I was 2 years old. Because of this I have a love for history and expecially the Fits. I want to also thank you Mr. Lightfoot for making this song ,because of it it is my favorite and I listen to to it every year. It makes my feel sad for the family's that morn for it. thank You. When are you planning a concert in the St.paul Mn. area?
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11-10-2004, 06:26 PM
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Today 29 years ago I was 2 years old. Because of this I have a love for history and expecially the Fits. I want to also thank you Mr. Lightfoot for making this song ,because of it it is my favorite and I listen to to it every year. It makes my feel sad for the family's that morn for it. thank You. When are you planning a concert in the St.paul Mn. area?
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11-10-2004, 09:23 PM
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The local station played TWOTEF today for "Gord crazed Deby". Then told that it was 29 years ago today.
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11-10-2004, 09:23 PM
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The local station played TWOTEF today for "Gord crazed Deby". Then told that it was 29 years ago today.
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11-10-2004, 10:24 PM
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29 years and 29 men
Ernest M. McSorley, 63, Captain
John H. McCarthy, 62, first mate
James A. Pratt, 44, second mate
Michael E. Armagost, 37, third mate
George J. Holl, 60, chief engineer
Edward E. Bindon, 47, first assistant engineer
Thomas E. Edwards,50, second assistant engineer
Russell G. Haskel, 40, second assistant engineer
Oliver J. Champeau, 51, third assistant engineer
David E. Weiss, 22, deck cadet
Eugene W. O'Brien, 50, wheelman
John J. Poviach, 59, wheelman
John D. Simmons, 60, wheelman
Ransom E. Cundy, 53, watchman
Karl A. Peckol, 55, watchman William J. Spengler, 59, watchman
Thomas Bentsen, 23, oiler
Ralph G. Walton, 58, oiler
Blaine H. Wilhelm, 52, oiler
Gordon E. MacLellan, 30, wiper
Robert C. Rafferty, 62, steward
Allen G. Kalmon, 43, second cook
Frederick J. Beetcher, 54, porter
Nolan E. Church, 55, porter
Thomas E. Borgeson, 41, able seaman maintenance man
Joseph W. Mazes, 59, special maintenance man
Bruce L. Hudson, 22, deckhand
Paul M. Riipa, 22, deckhand
Mark A. Thomas, 21, deckhand
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11-10-2004, 10:50 PM
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I knew I'd get beat to mentioning this topic.
I can't believe it's been a year again since the last anniversary. I can't say I knew of the actual wreck when it occoured,since I was just 7 at the time, but was surprised to find out it was an actual event after I did hear the song.
I thought it was a very creative thing Gordon had come up with himself. Which it is and as always it will remain a grand tribute to the men on that ship that should not be forgotten. Anymore than we should for get those that fight in a war or serve in the military.
Now,not to make light of the subject but I was watching the news early this morning and noticed that actor Russell Johnson (The Professor Roy Hinkley on G's Island,turned 80 today. That means in '75,on his 51st birthday,The Fitzgerald sank! (Hmmm...one man who has something to do with a fictional wreck and a real one!!  Coincidence??? 
Again,no offense or bad humor intended,just happened to see that! Later 
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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm."  - Borderstone
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11-11-2004, 09:37 AM
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TWOTEF is sort of a more evolved, mature, compelling version of the formula GL established with Ballad of Yarmouth Castle. I don't think Yarmouth Castle would have been as popular, though I like it very much and perform it whenever I can. Both were based on actual shipwrecks, although in the case of YC, he anthropomorphized the ship ("'Oh Lord,' she groans, 'I'm burnin,'"; "She's cryin' like a child", etc.). In the Wreck, it was the lake, or perhaps the Great Lakes' legendary November disasters, that took on a personality. It worked better, I think, and listeners responded.
Dan
Playin' up in Michigan
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11-11-2004, 09:37 AM
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TWOTEF is sort of a more evolved, mature, compelling version of the formula GL established with Ballad of Yarmouth Castle. I don't think Yarmouth Castle would have been as popular, though I like it very much and perform it whenever I can. Both were based on actual shipwrecks, although in the case of YC, he anthropomorphized the ship ("'Oh Lord,' she groans, 'I'm burnin,'"; "She's cryin' like a child", etc.). In the Wreck, it was the lake, or perhaps the Great Lakes' legendary November disasters, that took on a personality. It worked better, I think, and listeners responded.
Dan
Playin' up in Michigan
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11-11-2004, 11:26 PM
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quote:Originally posted by stationmaster:
29 years and 29 men
Ernest M. McSorley, 63, Captain
John H. McCarthy, 62, first mate
James A. Pratt, 44, second mate
Michael E. Armagost, 37, third mate
George J. Holl, 60, chief engineer
Edward E. Bindon, 47, first assistant engineer
Thomas E. Edwards,50, second assistant engineer
Russell G. Haskel, 40, second assistant engineer
Oliver J. Champeau, 51, third assistant engineer
David E. Weiss, 22, deck cadet
Eugene W. O'Brien, 50, wheelman
John J. Poviach, 59, wheelman
John D. Simmons, 60, wheelman
Ransom E. Cundy, 53, watchman
Karl A. Peckol, 55, watchman William J. Spengler, 59, watchman
Thomas Bentsen, 23, oiler
Ralph G. Walton, 58, oiler
Blaine H. Wilhelm, 52, oiler
Gordon E. MacLellan, 30, wiper
Robert C. Rafferty, 62, steward
Allen G. Kalmon, 43, second cook
Frederick J. Beetcher, 54, porter
Nolan E. Church, 55, porter
Thomas E. Borgeson, 41, able seaman maintenance man
Joseph W. Mazes, 59, special maintenance man
Bruce L. Hudson, 22, deckhand
Paul M. Riipa, 22, deckhand
Mark A. Thomas, 21, deckhand
Thank you Stationmaster for this post, I have never seen the names.
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11-11-2004, 11:26 PM
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quote:Originally posted by stationmaster:
29 years and 29 men
Ernest M. McSorley, 63, Captain
John H. McCarthy, 62, first mate
James A. Pratt, 44, second mate
Michael E. Armagost, 37, third mate
George J. Holl, 60, chief engineer
Edward E. Bindon, 47, first assistant engineer
Thomas E. Edwards,50, second assistant engineer
Russell G. Haskel, 40, second assistant engineer
Oliver J. Champeau, 51, third assistant engineer
David E. Weiss, 22, deck cadet
Eugene W. O'Brien, 50, wheelman
John J. Poviach, 59, wheelman
John D. Simmons, 60, wheelman
Ransom E. Cundy, 53, watchman
Karl A. Peckol, 55, watchman William J. Spengler, 59, watchman
Thomas Bentsen, 23, oiler
Ralph G. Walton, 58, oiler
Blaine H. Wilhelm, 52, oiler
Gordon E. MacLellan, 30, wiper
Robert C. Rafferty, 62, steward
Allen G. Kalmon, 43, second cook
Frederick J. Beetcher, 54, porter
Nolan E. Church, 55, porter
Thomas E. Borgeson, 41, able seaman maintenance man
Joseph W. Mazes, 59, special maintenance man
Bruce L. Hudson, 22, deckhand
Paul M. Riipa, 22, deckhand
Mark A. Thomas, 21, deckhand
Thank you Stationmaster for this post, I have never seen the names.
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11-12-2004, 01:32 AM
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29 name plaqued lanterns lit at the anchor's base
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this 'family' site is run by daughter of steward Rafferty...a few bios and this list has their hometowns also, mostly Ohio-ites
http://www.ssefo.com/crew/index.htm
thought she might look after norm's EF print
[This message has been edited by jj (edited November 12, 2004).]
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11-12-2004, 01:32 AM
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29 name plaqued lanterns lit at the anchor's base
this 'family' site is run by daughter of steward Rafferty...a few bios and this list has their hometowns also, mostly Ohio-ites
http://www.ssefo.com/crew/index.htm
thought she might look after norm's EF print
[This message has been edited by jj (edited November 12, 2004).]
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11-12-2004, 09:17 AM
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11-12-2004, 09:17 AM
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