song for a winter's night -guitar question

I have a question about a section of this song much as I had with "Restless." Does anyone know how to play that rundown Gord uses in the beginning and in between verses? Its easier to hear on the UA version compared to GG where there is much use of strings. All I know is that I can't see what Terry is playing on the Live In Reno DVD. So if anyone out there knows, please tell me.

I have a question about a section of this song much as I had with "Restless." Does anyone know how to play that rundown Gord uses in the beginning and in between verses? Its easier to hear on the UA version compared to GG where there is much use of strings. All I know is that I can't see what Terry is playing on the Live In Reno DVD. So if anyone out there knows, please tell me.

If you just mean what chords, it's F - - -
C - - - C - - - G - - - G - - - C - - -
C - - D G - - - :G "The lamp is burnin' low..."
(capoed at second fret I think)

If you what you want is actual tablature for what Terry does I can only say I'd like that too. I love that song.

If you just mean what chords, it's F - - -
C - - - C - - - G - - - G - - - C - - -
C - - D G - - - :G "The lamp is burnin' low..."
(capoed at second fret I think)

If you what you want is actual tablature for what Terry does I can only say I'd like that too. I love that song.

[Cathy]

I kind of play a combination of what Gord and Terry plays, which works out pretty well if you're playing it solo. In concert, Gord just plays the GaddD all the way through the intro and between verses. Terry, or in the case of the UA recordings, Red does the riff we're all so familiar with. Here's how I do it. I start out playing four bars of GaddD, Travis picked, then I go into the riff playing the following chords.
F/G = 3X0011
C/G = 3X0010
D7/G = 3X0012
G = 3X0003

The whole idea is to play a G bass throughout the entire riff, while playing F, C, D7 and G chords on your 1st and 2nd strings and with leaving the 3rd and 4th strings open on each chord. Don't play the 5th string at all. You travis pick the entire riff, but each chord change starts out with a pinch of the 1st, 2nd and 6th strings. If you want to listen to how it sounds, go to my website at http://www.cathycowette.com. There are a couple versions: one with me solo, and one with Derek Kidd on lead.
Here's the picking pattern. Notations inside the bracket indicate the pinch, strings you play together:
[T6, M2, R1], T4, I3, T6, R1, T4
You use the above picking pattern for all four chords.
I also have tablature written out, but would have to scan it in. I'm at Val Magee's in NY right now and don't have access to a scanner, but we could get it to you tomorrow. Reply to vlmagee@mageenet.net if you want the tab, and she'll get it to you tomorrow.

Hope this makes a little bit of sense!
Cathy

[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited July 06, 2003)... because I was stupid and put Gadd9 instead of GaddD, which it's supposed to be...]

[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited July 06, 2003).]

[vlmagee]

Cathy asked me to add that it's played with the capo on the 2nd fret.

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Valerie Magee

Visit my GL web site at gordonlightfoot.com and Cathy Cowette's site at cathycowette.com

Yes, that's true, there is a G in the base on all four chords. But there's no dominant 7th in the D, at least not on the UA recording. Of course that doesn't mean you can't put it there if you want to.

Yes, that's true, there is a G in the base on all four chords. But there's no dominant 7th in the D, at least not on the UA recording. Of course that doesn't mean you can't put it there if you want to.

Cathy I am intersted in your GaddD chord. My very limited music theory tells me that the triad that makes up the Gmaj chord is G, C & D. Therefore there is no need to add the D, it is already there. I believe it is the 'perfect' 5th in the Gmaj scale.
By the way, I have visited your website on more than one occasion, I am impressed

[Ben Dover]

Cathy I am intersted in your GaddD chord. My very limited music theory tells me that the triad that makes up the Gmaj chord is G, C & D. Therefore there is no need to add the D, it is already there. I believe it is the 'perfect' 5th in the Gmaj scale.
By the way, I have visited your website on more than one occasion, I am impressed

Ouch, the biter has been bit The triad that forms the Gmaj chord is G, B & D. I must have been thinking about 1, 4, 5 chords.
Get it right, chum. I am going back to bed

[Ben Dover]

Ouch, the biter has been bit The triad that forms the Gmaj chord is G, B & D. I must have been thinking about 1, 4, 5 chords.
Get it right, chum. I am going back to bed

[Borderstone]

Here we go again. I just played that LP Friday night! Coincidence? I think not.

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Ben Dover:
Cathy I am intersted in your GaddD chord. My very limited music theory tells me that the triad that makes up the Gmaj chord is G, C & D. Therefore there is no need to add the D, it is already there. I believe it is the 'perfect' 5th in the Gmaj scale.
By the way, I have visited your website on more than one occasion, I am impressed

Thanks, Ben. I'm glad you enjoyed the music. I have to give a lot of credit to the other members of the Lightfoot Tribute Band: Derek Kidd, Ed Mullen and Matt Carl and the elusive Lori who couldn't make the last concert. If you want to hear more, go to http://www.edmullen.com. He has some tribute songs posted, too.
The GaddD I'm referring to is a common chord. Instead of playing the third fret of the 1st string, play the third fret of the 2nd string. Many times, particularly on songs that are strummed, you can play the third fret of both strings.

Cathy

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by tim:
Yes, that's true, there is a G in the base on all four chords. But there's no dominant 7th in the D, at least not on the UA recording. Of course that doesn't mean you can't put it there if you want to.


I've tried it both ways. I like the sound of the D7, and it's a much easier change going from C/G to D7/G than going to D/G. It works for me, something like "Huk'd on foniks wirks fir me."

Cathy

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Borderstone:
Here we go again. I just played that LP Friday night! Coincidence? I think not.



I'm betting you play a few Lightfoot CDs everyday, so it's more of a probability than a coincidence!

Cathy

[Borderstone]

Well,Cathy...I'm sure we all do! Otherwise,we wouldn't be "real fans or avid listners" would we? Yes,I do play them quite frequently,not every day but maybe once or twice a week at the most. My brother likes some of the songs but he's not able to sit through an entire CD like I do. Now he knows how I felt when he used to play 1970's Elvis tapes all of the time! Can you imagine how depressing it is to hear,"American Trilogy" or "Don't Cry Daddy" almost every other day? I'd come home in a good mood and if he was playing that stuff,I'd get out of there before it got to me. I'm easily moved in emotion,unfortunatley. I'm glad I have a place to myself now. It's been me,later!

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[This message has been edited by Borderstone (edited July 09, 2003).]

Thank you Cathy, for the explanation of the chord, I am familiar with the shape you describe, it is Liam Gallager's favourite chord shape, although he leaves his pinky on the e string 3rd fret, and moves his middle and index around from D to A7 to G to C. with a constant g & d note(s) ringing out on the high strings. Witness 'Wonderwall'
I am just about to check out the Ed Mullen site

[Ben Dover]

Thank you Cathy, for the explanation of the chord, I am familiar with the shape you describe, it is Liam Gallager's favourite chord shape, although he leaves his pinky on the e string 3rd fret, and moves his middle and index around from D to A7 to G to C. with a constant g & d note(s) ringing out on the high strings. Witness 'Wonderwall'
I am just about to check out the Ed Mullen site

Oh dear! more embarrassment.
It isNoel not Liam

[Ben Dover]

Oh dear! more embarrassment.
It isNoel not Liam

Cathy I have visited the Ed Mullen site and am unable to locate any songs whatsoever?

[Ben Dover]

Cathy I have visited the Ed Mullen site and am unable to locate any songs whatsoever?

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Ben Dover:
Cathy I have visited the Ed Mullen site and am unable to locate any songs whatsoever?

Well, I see the problem, Ben. edmullen.com takes you to a completely different site now. I'll have to point that out to Ed. I don't even know if it's his site. (Oh God, noooooo!!!! Don't tell me there are two Ed Mullens! The world can't take it..)
Try this link: http://www.edmullen.ehost.com/

While you're there, make sure you check out his site map.

Cathy

Thank you Cathy, that site is pretty impressive.