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Old 11-25-2006, 07:26 PM   #1
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Has anyone noticed that (unless I'm mistaken), every album that has Song For A Winters Night and Canadian Railroad Trilogy, SFAWN ALWAYS comes before CRT?

It does so in The Way I Feel, Gord's Gold, Songbook, and The Greatest Hits collection. Do you think Gord put those songs back to back on purpose, or was it just a coincidence? Anyway, great songs.
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Old 11-25-2006, 07:26 PM   #2
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Has anyone noticed that (unless I'm mistaken), every album that has Song For A Winters Night and Canadian Railroad Trilogy, SFAWN ALWAYS comes before CRT?

It does so in The Way I Feel, Gord's Gold, Songbook, and The Greatest Hits collection. Do you think Gord put those songs back to back on purpose, or was it just a coincidence? Anyway, great songs.
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Old 11-25-2006, 09:42 PM   #3
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Is this because it's so insanely difficult to follow CRT? I mean SFAWN is great but CRT is breathtaking.

Now the wuestion becomes of all the recordings of CRT which is the best? I know my answer.... (hint - it was recorded live on a Sunday......)

Once saw him play that live when Red Shea was still touring with him. That song alone was worth the price of admission.
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Old 11-25-2006, 09:42 PM   #4
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Is this because it's so insanely difficult to follow CRT? I mean SFAWN is great but CRT is breathtaking.

Now the wuestion becomes of all the recordings of CRT which is the best? I know my answer.... (hint - it was recorded live on a Sunday......)

Once saw him play that live when Red Shea was still touring with him. That song alone was worth the price of admission.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:53 PM   #5
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No, what I'm talking about is whenever Song For A Winters Night is playted, CRT always comes after it. It's like that on pretty much every album. Is it like this in concert too?
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Old 11-26-2006, 12:00 PM   #6
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Ah! Don't mind me.

Now you've got me..... no logical connection.
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Old 11-26-2006, 12:00 PM   #7
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Ah! Don't mind me.

Now you've got me..... no logical connection.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:39 PM   #8
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Nope, at Massey he played CRT but didn't play SFAWN. I don't recall at any of the concerts that they are together. He usually plays CRT toward the end. Probably because it is so long and hard to sing.
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Old 11-26-2006, 06:43 PM   #9
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Yes, they seem to fit right in that order because that's why they were placed that way on the first record. Every artist gives careful thought to the sequence of songs when they plan the order of the songs on a record. When the two songs are used on a later record, the same reasons they were sequenced as they were originally will usually cause the same sequence to be used again.

In concert, back when he played SFAWN regularly, it was occasionally just before CRT, but not always. Sometimes he played them in reverse order (e.g., on April 14, 2002, the last concert I attended before he fell ill later that year). In fact, I have sense that he played SFAWN after CRT more often than before, and many times there was a song or two in between.

However, during a concert, the decisions about song placement are more complex than in laying out a record. Things like which guitar he uses are important (he doesn't want to switch more often than necessary), while that doesn't apply with a recording. Some of the musical, tempo, and mood factors are the same, but so much more comes into play when playing live; the feel and feedback from the audience being another significant consideration. So he might do an upbeat song like Baby Step Back between them, before doing the second song. (And he did choose that song, in particular, on many occasions).

Personally, I liked it when the played them in the original sequence toward the end of the second set. Although that meant the concert was almost over, it was always a musical high for me.
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