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Old 07-17-2003, 01:08 PM   #1
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Are there any Gord songs that you felt if you could change something about it it would make it a much better song?
In "East Of Midnight" after the lyrics "We'll be leavin early travlin at light" I'd eliminate the trumpet sound. It makes it sound a bit TOO much like the 80's.

(I'm not trying to be a pessimist or anything so don't get me wrong, but we all have songs that we think would sound much better (TO US) if we changed something about it.(Borderstone said he would make "Someone To Believe In" a slow song.) Sorry for speaking for you, just trying to give another example.
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Old 07-17-2003, 01:08 PM   #2
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Are there any Gord songs that you felt if you could change something about it it would make it a much better song?
In "East Of Midnight" after the lyrics "We'll be leavin early travlin at light" I'd eliminate the trumpet sound. It makes it sound a bit TOO much like the 80's.

(I'm not trying to be a pessimist or anything so don't get me wrong, but we all have songs that we think would sound much better (TO US) if we changed something about it.(Borderstone said he would make "Someone To Believe In" a slow song.) Sorry for speaking for you, just trying to give another example.
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Old 07-17-2003, 02:07 PM   #3
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Look under the thread "A Little Different" last post July 3, 2003. You'll find several answers. Are you back now or just visiting?
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Old 07-17-2003, 02:07 PM   #4
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Look under the thread "A Little Different" last post July 3, 2003. You'll find several answers. Are you back now or just visiting?
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Old 07-17-2003, 04:23 PM   #5
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Well,as stated DMD3,my answers to your question are under the above mentioned posting. However,if I could change a large chunk of music history,I'd change the 80's. Not the funner songs but things like like Adult contempory ballads and their unemtional background music. Anything I thought should have been a #1 hit,I would make it so. Imagine that,I could make it so that Milli Vanilli would never have topped the chart! I also would have the breakdancing craze last longer than 3 years! ('83-'86). You posed a good question but I kind of beat you to it when I went back through the archived messages. Saw-ee! : Later,dude!

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Old 07-17-2003, 07:16 PM   #6
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quote:Originally posted by brink:
Look under the thread "A Little Different" last post July 3, 2003. You'll find several answers. Are you back now or just visiting?

I'm afraid I'm just visiting. But I'll probably be back on here tomorrow though.

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Old 07-17-2003, 07:16 PM   #7
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quote:Originally posted by brink:
Look under the thread "A Little Different" last post July 3, 2003. You'll find several answers. Are you back now or just visiting?

I'm afraid I'm just visiting. But I'll probably be back on here tomorrow though.

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Old 07-18-2003, 09:53 PM   #8
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For changes, I guess I'd like GL to stop recording *country* music! (I think songs like: 'I used to be a country singer' and 'Red velvet' are not good - especially knowing GL's own excellent songwriting ability.! He needs to drop the steel pedal guitar too. He's a folk/pop/rock guy, and I hate to see him venture off that way like he did on the APPT album.

One of the few covers he's done that I really like is Dylan's 'Ring them bells' Superb! But no more 'country music' please!
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Old 07-18-2003, 09:53 PM   #9
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For changes, I guess I'd like GL to stop recording *country* music! (I think songs like: 'I used to be a country singer' and 'Red velvet' are not good - especially knowing GL's own excellent songwriting ability.! He needs to drop the steel pedal guitar too. He's a folk/pop/rock guy, and I hate to see him venture off that way like he did on the APPT album.

One of the few covers he's done that I really like is Dylan's 'Ring them bells' Superb! But no more 'country music' please!
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Old 07-19-2003, 07:09 AM   #10
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First let me say that everyone is entitled to their opinion and music is a very subjective medium. But having said that shustad, maybe if you knew the writers of those two songs and their connection with Gord, it would help you to understand why they were included.

Ian Tyson, of Ian and Sylvia, wrote "Red Velvet". If you know anything of Gord's career, you will know how instrumental Ian and Sylvia were to getting Gord on the road he is on now as well as being longtime personal friends. Ian and Sylvia have recorded some of Gord's songs as well.

Steve McEown is writer of the song "I used to be a Country Singer". He is the musical partner of Gord's nephew, Steve Eyers. Their duo is called Even Steven and they have a nice website at http://www.elitegroup.on.ca/northbeat/evensteven.html, mentioning Gord quite frequently.

Will this make you like the "country" style songs more? Probably not and that's okay. But maybe it will ease your mind that there was a reason why he chose to record these two and didn't just pick them out of the air.

And I agree with you...I love Gord's cover of Dylan's "Ring them Bells". I usually hit the repeat button on that one a couple of times. However, personally I miss Pee Wee Charles' steel pedal guitar sounds from Gord's 70's and 80's songs. And I missed seeing him up on the stage at the concerts. I loved the concerts where both Mike and Pee Wee were there.

This deviates from your original questions DMD3 and I apologize...to answer, I have no changes to suggest. Either I like a song or I don't. But it's a good question to put up for discussion...again.
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Old 07-19-2003, 07:09 AM   #11
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First let me say that everyone is entitled to their opinion and music is a very subjective medium. But having said that shustad, maybe if you knew the writers of those two songs and their connection with Gord, it would help you to understand why they were included.

Ian Tyson, of Ian and Sylvia, wrote "Red Velvet". If you know anything of Gord's career, you will know how instrumental Ian and Sylvia were to getting Gord on the road he is on now as well as being longtime personal friends. Ian and Sylvia have recorded some of Gord's songs as well.

Steve McEown is writer of the song "I used to be a Country Singer". He is the musical partner of Gord's nephew, Steve Eyers. Their duo is called Even Steven and they have a nice website at http://www.elitegroup.on.ca/northbeat/evensteven.html, mentioning Gord quite frequently.

Will this make you like the "country" style songs more? Probably not and that's okay. But maybe it will ease your mind that there was a reason why he chose to record these two and didn't just pick them out of the air.

And I agree with you...I love Gord's cover of Dylan's "Ring them Bells". I usually hit the repeat button on that one a couple of times. However, personally I miss Pee Wee Charles' steel pedal guitar sounds from Gord's 70's and 80's songs. And I missed seeing him up on the stage at the concerts. I loved the concerts where both Mike and Pee Wee were there.

This deviates from your original questions DMD3 and I apologize...to answer, I have no changes to suggest. Either I like a song or I don't. But it's a good question to put up for discussion...again.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:22 PM   #12
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I recall a quote from Gord when...Painter
was released that Warners wanted him to do a country album, not folk or AC. He didn't want to do that. His choosing those two "country songs" were a concession to Warner Bros.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:22 PM   #13
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I recall a quote from Gord when...Painter
was released that Warners wanted him to do a country album, not folk or AC. He didn't want to do that. His choosing those two "country songs" were a concession to Warner Bros.
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:51 PM   #14
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Hmmm...very interesting thread here. I enjoy most music; however, hard-core country is one of my least favorite styles. Yet, I find Red Velvet and IUTBACS to be two very engaging and delightful songs on the APPT cd. Sung by any other singers I might feel differently but performed by GL makes them very listenable for me. As Clio said, "To each his own" or words to that effect. However, if Clio is still along on this thread, here is a more important issue...I have been trying for some time to track down a source to buy Even Stevens cd. I know they have at least one available. Do you Clio, or does anyone else, know how I could come by one of these? I have searched any and all the internet resources to no avail.
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Old 07-21-2003, 06:05 PM   #15
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quote:Originally posted by SomewhereupinMichigan:
However, if Clio is still along on this thread, here is a more important issue...I have been trying for some time to track down a source to buy Even Stevens cd. I know they have at least one available. Do you Clio, or does anyone else, know how I could come by one of these? I have searched any and all the internet resources to no avail.[/B]

Dear Michigan,

No I am sorry, but I do not know the source for acquiring any one of the three cd's Even Steven has recorded, (Natural Act, Even Steven and What I Am). I only knew the connection IUTBACS's writer has with Gord. It doesn't even mention a recording label in their website. (Which, BTW, I apologize, leave the comma off the end of the link to get there.) Very frustrating. Maybe if you contact EMP they might have the answer.

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Old 07-21-2003, 06:05 PM   #16
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quote:Originally posted by SomewhereupinMichigan:
However, if Clio is still along on this thread, here is a more important issue...I have been trying for some time to track down a source to buy Even Stevens cd. I know they have at least one available. Do you Clio, or does anyone else, know how I could come by one of these? I have searched any and all the internet resources to no avail.[/B]

Dear Michigan,

No I am sorry, but I do not know the source for acquiring any one of the three cd's Even Steven has recorded, (Natural Act, Even Steven and What I Am). I only knew the connection IUTBACS's writer has with Gord. It doesn't even mention a recording label in their website. (Which, BTW, I apologize, leave the comma off the end of the link to get there.) Very frustrating. Maybe if you contact EMP they might have the answer.

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Old 07-23-2003, 08:03 PM   #17
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Thanks Clio. I'd already been to the website and have emailed them more than once but they never respond. Your suggestion of contacting EMP is not a bad idea; one which had not occurred to me. And, oh by the way, in an interview with Eric Greenberg back in the late 90s I seem to recall Gord made a comment that he likes to write songs in the "country style," as it accomodates his Travis style of fingering. So...you may hear more country-ish offerings from him down the road. I think Val has the original interview posted on her website.
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