They're planning a movie about the Fitz

[Auburn Annie]

Edmund Fitzgerald Movie In The Making

PORT HURON, MI -- Movie producers and former Great Lakes captains will gather in Port Huron to discuss a flick on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

A ferocious Lake Superior storm sank the freighter sank and its 29 crew members in November 1975. Singer Gordon Lightfoot wrote a ballad about it. An exploration team in 1994 captured underwater footage of the wreck.

Venture Films is seeking input for possible inclusion in the Hollywood movie. The group this week also will tour some of Port Huron's maritime attractions.

Posted 7:00 p.m. Tuesday, September 9th
Associated Press

[Auburn Annie]

Edmund Fitzgerald Movie In The Making

PORT HURON, MI -- Movie producers and former Great Lakes captains will gather in Port Huron to discuss a flick on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

A ferocious Lake Superior storm sank the freighter sank and its 29 crew members in November 1975. Singer Gordon Lightfoot wrote a ballad about it. An exploration team in 1994 captured underwater footage of the wreck.

Venture Films is seeking input for possible inclusion in the Hollywood movie. The group this week also will tour some of Port Huron's maritime attractions.

Posted 7:00 p.m. Tuesday, September 9th
Associated Press

Bravo!!!!!!!!! I have always thought this would make an excellent movie!
I just hope the family members of the crew
feel that way too. I'm not so sure I would want Hollywood involved if my Dad or bothers
were on the Fitz that night in November, 1975. I wonder if GL's great song will be used? I may not even want to go if it is not
used. To me, that song is the only reason
most people have even heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald. 30,000 men, women and children
have died in shipwrecks on the Great Lakes since they began keeping records. The Fitzgerald would have faded into obscurity had it not been for Lightfoot. That song is
like a symbol for ALL shipwrecks on the Great Lakes. If it's not used in the movie,
they (Hollywood) are missing the point.

Bravo!!!!!!!!! I have always thought this would make an excellent movie!
I just hope the family members of the crew
feel that way too. I'm not so sure I would want Hollywood involved if my Dad or bothers
were on the Fitz that night in November, 1975. I wonder if GL's great song will be used? I may not even want to go if it is not
used. To me, that song is the only reason
most people have even heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald. 30,000 men, women and children
have died in shipwrecks on the Great Lakes since they began keeping records. The Fitzgerald would have faded into obscurity had it not been for Lightfoot. That song is
like a symbol for ALL shipwrecks on the Great Lakes. If it's not used in the movie,
they (Hollywood) are missing the point.

[fowlesjohn]

Rather interesting they are not in the Lake Superior area...although I really love that area there around Port Huron, Mi.. It would seem a bit odd to study the area around Port Huron (?). It would be closer to Gords' neck of the lakes (in lieu of woods), i.e. the Bruce Peninsula and Georgian Bay. Funny. But, I too am glad they are thinking these thoughts. I was watching that movie about how the Titanic was built tonight on History channel. It would be interesting to add to this sort of idea to the movie. Gord added so much data in his song, for me this is why that tragic incident stood out so profoundly, his storytelling ability was phenomenal in this case.

[gwen snyder]

Rather interesting they are not in the Lake Superior area...although I really love that area there around Port Huron, Mi.. It would seem a bit odd to study the area around Port Huron (?). It would be closer to Gords' neck of the lakes (in lieu of woods), i.e. the Bruce Peninsula and Georgian Bay. Funny. But, I too am glad they are thinking these thoughts. I was watching that movie about how the Titanic was built tonight on History channel. It would be interesting to add to this sort of idea to the movie. Gord added so much data in his song, for me this is why that tragic incident stood out so profoundly, his storytelling ability was phenomenal in this case.

[vlmagee]

Again?

quote:Originally posted by Auburn Annie:


Edmund Fitzgerald Movie In The Making

PORT HURON, MI -- Movie producers and former Great Lakes captains will gather in Port Huron to discuss a flick on the Edmund Fitzgerald.





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Valerie Magee

Visit my GL web site at gordonlightfoot.com and Cathy Cowette's site at cathycowette.com

If this movie comes out, you can count on me to see it. But the thing is about movies like that, it's either going to turn out really great or it is going to turn out like 'The Perfect Storm' and that movie was no good at all. I guess it depends on who directs it and how they do it.
I guess they'll half to make up how the ship sinks because for them to not show it would really be a bummer.

If this movie comes out, you can count on me to see it. But the thing is about movies like that, it's either going to turn out really great or it is going to turn out like 'The Perfect Storm' and that movie was no good at all. I guess it depends on who directs it and how they do it.
I guess they'll half to make up how the ship sinks because for them to not show it would really be a bummer.

I disagree, and think that they can make an excellent movie and still leave the (how?)
or the (why?)the Fitz sank remain a mystery.
besides, if they "make-up" the reason it sank
it's going to cause people to get real upset.
The family members of the crew and ship builders were infuriated by the loose hatch
covers theory. Everyone tried to assign blame to the disaster, saying the hatches were not properly secured and that upset some people.

One of the things that makes this shipwreck
so intriguing is the fact that the ship just disappeared from radar without an SOS or a radio transmission of any kind. Bernie Cooper of the Arthur Anderson was in contact with McSorely and knew the Fitz was listing
but nobody knew that the ship was going to sink.

I think the movie should stay as close to
the facts as we know them. They can keep it a mystery. Besides, it doesn't matter why it sank. It sank.

I disagree, and think that they can make an excellent movie and still leave the (how?)
or the (why?)the Fitz sank remain a mystery.
besides, if they "make-up" the reason it sank
it's going to cause people to get real upset.
The family members of the crew and ship builders were infuriated by the loose hatch
covers theory. Everyone tried to assign blame to the disaster, saying the hatches were not properly secured and that upset some people.

One of the things that makes this shipwreck
so intriguing is the fact that the ship just disappeared from radar without an SOS or a radio transmission of any kind. Bernie Cooper of the Arthur Anderson was in contact with McSorely and knew the Fitz was listing
but nobody knew that the ship was going to sink.

I think the movie should stay as close to
the facts as we know them. They can keep it a mystery. Besides, it doesn't matter why it sank. It sank.

[Borderstone]

I know they would not be dumb enough not to use Gord's song. I do know they might be dumb enough to have someone else cover it. Let's hope that's not the case. I'd like to see GL's version hit the top 40 again and this time,go to #1 like it should have. Looking forward to it,later!

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Borderstone - "Little 'Ol Message Maker Me!"

I spent over a week in the area surrounding
Whitefish Bay last month and "Fitzgerald Fever" is rampant. We saw paintings, and
T-shirts and carvings and coffe mugs and
pens and pencils, etc.,etc. depicting the name and image of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Part of the legend and folklore that makes this area unique has to do with the shipwreck
being such a mystery. My kids are in love with Gord's song and are interested in the shipwreck because it's a mystery. That is why people still are interested in "Jack the Ripper" or "bigfoot" or UFO's. If we learn
the truth sometimes things don't have the same appeal. Like when I found out about Santa. Worst day of my life.


And Watchman, I WILL FLAT OUT GUARANTEE YOU
THAT NO FAMILY MEMBER WANTS THE TRUTH IF IT ASSIGNS BLAME TO THEIR LOVED ONES.

I spent over a week in the area surrounding
Whitefish Bay last month and "Fitzgerald Fever" is rampant. We saw paintings, and
T-shirts and carvings and coffe mugs and
pens and pencils, etc.,etc. depicting the name and image of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Part of the legend and folklore that makes this area unique has to do with the shipwreck
being such a mystery. My kids are in love with Gord's song and are interested in the shipwreck because it's a mystery. That is why people still are interested in "Jack the Ripper" or "bigfoot" or UFO's. If we learn
the truth sometimes things don't have the same appeal. Like when I found out about Santa. Worst day of my life.


And Watchman, I WILL FLAT OUT GUARANTEE YOU
THAT NO FAMILY MEMBER WANTS THE TRUTH IF IT ASSIGNS BLAME TO THEIR LOVED ONES.

[2Much2Lose]

They can't use the song without Gords permission. In the past he would not grant it, as he didn't want to be seen as capitalizing on the family's misfortune. Unless he has changed his viewpoint, or the families approve of the movie and the use of the song, I can't see him changing his mind.
Jenney

[Jenney]

They can't use the song without Gords permission. In the past he would not grant it, as he didn't want to be seen as capitalizing on the family's misfortune. Unless he has changed his viewpoint, or the families approve of the movie and the use of the song, I can't see him changing his mind.
Jenney

Titan: You are right about the possibility of people getting upset and I considered it when I posted my message about it being bad if they didn't show the ship sink. Although some may disagree and argue about how it sank, I really don't think anyones going to raise h*ll about it or anything.
Actually, what I meant was them showing what the ship looked like when it sunk, not the reason it sunk. I think it sank because they were fully loaded and the storm they were in was just to severe, wind speeds too high, waves too big, etc. Of course, I could be wrong. But I half to ask, had the ship ever been in a worse storm than that?

Titan: You are right about the possibility of people getting upset and I considered it when I posted my message about it being bad if they didn't show the ship sink. Although some may disagree and argue about how it sank, I really don't think anyones going to raise h*ll about it or anything.
Actually, what I meant was them showing what the ship looked like when it sunk, not the reason it sunk. I think it sank because they were fully loaded and the storm they were in was just to severe, wind speeds too high, waves too big, etc. Of course, I could be wrong. But I half to ask, had the ship ever been in a worse storm than that?

The Edmund Fitzgerald sunk in one of, or a combination of four different ways.
First, The hatches were not properly secured
and the ship took in massive amounts of water
into the holds, filled and sunk. I believe this to be unlikely since the Fitz's 4 bilge pumps were capable of pumping out 14,000 gallons of water per minute.

Second, the ship hit bottom along the shoals
at Carribou island. Perhaps it tore a whole in the ships hull, it filled with water and sunk.

Third, the ship was overloaded. The Fitz typically carried loads between 20,000-24,000
tons. Maybe it was overloaded and the huge waves caused more stress to the ship than it could handle. The metal fatigued and she broke apart.

Fourth, a combination of these things. This load of 26,000 tons was more than the Fitzgerald normally carried. The violent storm probably caused the Fitzgerald to suffer a combination of the above scenarios.

Regardless, I agree with Watchman. After nearly three decades, it doesn't really matter. I would only want the Coast Guard to discover the truth if it was to prevent further disasters. If they find out what really happened, it's going to open a pandora's box and someone is going to be blamed.
When Cousteau dove to the wreck in '76 and
stated he felt like she broke apart at the surface, the ship builders didn't like it one bit and voiced their displeasure. I'm just saying that the truth at this point is going to hurt somebody. It would open wounds that have beeen trying to heal for twenty-eight years now. I stick to my original statements that it doesn't matter why it sunk.

The Edmund Fitzgerald sunk in one of, or a combination of four different ways.
First, The hatches were not properly secured
and the ship took in massive amounts of water
into the holds, filled and sunk. I believe this to be unlikely since the Fitz's 4 bilge pumps were capable of pumping out 14,000 gallons of water per minute.

Second, the ship hit bottom along the shoals
at Carribou island. Perhaps it tore a whole in the ships hull, it filled with water and sunk.

Third, the ship was overloaded. The Fitz typically carried loads between 20,000-24,000
tons. Maybe it was overloaded and the huge waves caused more stress to the ship than it could handle. The metal fatigued and she broke apart.

Fourth, a combination of these things. This load of 26,000 tons was more than the Fitzgerald normally carried. The violent storm probably caused the Fitzgerald to suffer a combination of the above scenarios.

Regardless, I agree with Watchman. After nearly three decades, it doesn't really matter. I would only want the Coast Guard to discover the truth if it was to prevent further disasters. If they find out what really happened, it's going to open a pandora's box and someone is going to be blamed.
When Cousteau dove to the wreck in '76 and
stated he felt like she broke apart at the surface, the ship builders didn't like it one bit and voiced their displeasure. I'm just saying that the truth at this point is going to hurt somebody. It would open wounds that have beeen trying to heal for twenty-eight years now. I stick to my original statements that it doesn't matter why it sunk.

[SomewhereupinMichigan]

Titan wrote:

"If we learn
the truth sometimes things don't have the same appeal. Like when I found out about Santa. Worst day of my life."

Titan: What are you saying? Do you know something about Santa that I don't?

This topic is VERY close and dear to me. I
enjoy a healthy discussion about it because
not alot of people find it as interesting as I do. Watchman, I think that our opinions
are actually very similiar in many ways. I can get carried away with "guarantees" but
I assure you that I am more schooled on this
disaster than most.
I think part of my problem is that I've taken
Gord's song and this shipwreck on such a personal level. I can't explain it.

I was thinking about Jenney's post about GL
not granting permission to use the song in the movie. I hope that they can reach an agreement with Lightfoot somehow. Someone always profits from someone else's misfortune. It's not always unethical to do so. Thousands of Funeral Directors will agree with me.
I watched Deep Sea Detectives on the History Channel (runs on cable TV or satelite) and they used about 25 seconds of Gord's song.
It is my understanding that this channel is
not a non-profit entity. So who knows?

This topic is VERY close and dear to me. I
enjoy a healthy discussion about it because
not alot of people find it as interesting as I do. Watchman, I think that our opinions
are actually very similiar in many ways. I can get carried away with "guarantees" but
I assure you that I am more schooled on this
disaster than most.
I think part of my problem is that I've taken
Gord's song and this shipwreck on such a personal level. I can't explain it.

I was thinking about Jenney's post about GL
not granting permission to use the song in the movie. I hope that they can reach an agreement with Lightfoot somehow. Someone always profits from someone else's misfortune. It's not always unethical to do so. Thousands of Funeral Directors will agree with me.
I watched Deep Sea Detectives on the History Channel (runs on cable TV or satelite) and they used about 25 seconds of Gord's song.
It is my understanding that this channel is
not a non-profit entity. So who knows?

This is going to be hard for you. I hope your sitting down.

SANTA DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE HIS ELVES MAKE YOUR TOYS. SOMETIMES HE BUYS THEM.

I hope this isn't as hard on you as it was on me. Have a Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!

This is going to be hard for you. I hope your sitting down.

SANTA DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE HIS ELVES MAKE YOUR TOYS. SOMETIMES HE BUYS THEM.

I hope this isn't as hard on you as it was on me. Have a Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!