Stating the obvious

[johnfowles]

QUOTE]Originally posted by charlene:

The wild geese will be on their way
the weather's much too cold.
QUOTE]

heck - even the CANADA geese leave town!
lolol

...

you don't have to tell me that Char
for ther first 3 years or so of my living here in New Jersey my step father in law Bill would take me most days to the nearby Warinanco
Park for my healthy walk . As you can see there is a splendid circular path around the lake a very pleasant 30 minute walk. Unfortunately most of Canada's flippin' Geese tended to treat the lake area as their personal restroom resulting it being almost impossible to walk on the path without getting their defecations thickly encrusted in ones soles.
I miss those walks and the lake and even the sodden geese because in 2003 old soldier Bill departed this life

Aerial view courtesy of http://www.local..live.com

[johnfowles]

QUOTE]Originally posted by charlene:

The wild geese will be on their way
the weather's much too cold.
QUOTE]

heck - even the CANADA geese leave town!
lolol

...

you don't have to tell me that Char
for ther first 3 years or so of my living here in New Jersey my step father in law Bill would take me most days to the nearby Warinanco
Park for my healthy walk . As you can see there is a splendid circular path around the lake a very pleasant 30 minute walk. Unfortunately most of Canada's flippin' Geese tended to treat the lake area as their personal restroom resulting it being almost impossible to walk on the path without getting their defecations thickly encrusted in ones soles.
I miss those walks and the lake and even the sodden geese because in 2003 old soldier Bill departed this life

Aerial view courtesy of http://www.local..live.com

[Sundown17]

Yeah...and let's not even talk about what those %!&^!$&? geese and their distant fowl (apologies to Sir John) cousins have done to Jenney('s) Pond in Plymouth MA or the one that was loose in the hotel room in Keene NH.

[Peter Bro10]

hey timetraveler, some might call it fate... but not me.
All things happen for a reason...
terribly deep thoughts coming on... I had better pull back!!!

[Auburn Annie]

We have a number of them "winter over" at the local Montezuma preserve, especially as our winters have been (relatively) mild in the last few years. And we've had a mated pair making themselves at home in our neighborhood in the last couple of years.

[Auburn Annie]

We have a number of them "winter over" at the local Montezuma preserve, especially as our winters have been (relatively) mild in the last few years. And we've had a mated pair making themselves at home in our neighborhood in the last couple of years.

[Gitchigumee]

We have them too, in Southwestern Wisconsin. Lots of them. They hang around for quite a long time in the spring and fall, when migrating through. I love to see them first come in the spring, as that means summer's on the way and they're heading back home to Canada, but I hate to see them in early fall, because it means they're getting the heck out of Dodge before winter sets in. They're awesome--their honking gives me, pardon the pun, goose bumps every time, and to see them flying in formation is really something. If I were Canadian, I'd be very proud to have them as a symbol of my country.

[Jesse Joe]

I agree tt, many times I wish I had wings too. Makes me think of Gords, "If Children Had Wings." I guess he meant they would be angels?

Boy just think about it, 'Honey', were you thinking of taking the car to go to Massey Hall? Forget it, well just fly there... :D

[Jesse Joe]

I agree tt, many times I wish I had wings too. Makes me think of Gords, "If Children Had Wings." I guess he meant they would be angels?

Boy just think about it, 'Honey', were you thinking of taking the car to go to Massey Hall? Forget it, well just fly there... :D

[Peter Bro10]

how does a thread start off a discussion of gratitude for this site and the people who make it possible, and end up in geese droppings and migration paterns???
It's just amusing how these threads run...

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Peter Bro10:
how does a thread start off a discussion of gratitude for this site and the people who make it possible, and end up in geese droppings and migration paterns???
It's just amusing how these threads run...

No its just amazing


(please give it time to load and start the animation sequence
Guilty as usual for taking a topic off topic.
There I thought I 'd get that in before somebody else pointed a finger at me. It was actually all Char's fault for mentioning geese in the second place

believe it or not the file name of this animated gif found while google image searching for a hands up animated gif is tada tada...
Brink_resurrection_animation.gif
from a complete web page about brink at
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digstuff/digbm1.html
which says at the top
"This link leads to a page containing a summary of The Dig's development history.
Before you proceed, a warning...
This page will take a long time to load on dial-up connections."
the link referred to is to
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digstuff/digtext1.html
it all looks frightfully interesting but poor Deb (brink) like me is on dial up so it is likely to be an exercuse in frustration
but this line caught my eye
"Life crystals apparently existed in Brian Moriarty's design for The Dig, and drove Brink insane"

[ November 03, 2006, 20:15: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Peter Bro10:
how does a thread start off a discussion of gratitude for this site and the people who make it possible, and end up in geese droppings and migration paterns???
It's just amusing how these threads run...

No its just amazing


(please give it time to load and start the animation sequence
Guilty as usual for taking a topic off topic.
There I thought I 'd get that in before somebody else pointed a finger at me. It was actually all Char's fault for mentioning geese in the second place

believe it or not the file name of this animated gif found while google image searching for a hands up animated gif is tada tada...
Brink_resurrection_animation.gif
from a complete web page about brink at
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digstuff/digbm1.html
which says at the top
"This link leads to a page containing a summary of The Dig's development history.
Before you proceed, a warning...
This page will take a long time to load on dial-up connections."
the link referred to is to
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digstuff/digtext1.html
it all looks frightfully interesting but poor Deb (brink) like me is on dial up so it is likely to be an exercuse in frustration
but this line caught my eye
"Life crystals apparently existed in Brian Moriarty's design for The Dig, and drove Brink insane"

[ November 03, 2006, 20:15: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[Islandgirl]

When I get to work every morning canadian geese are everywhere. there were a few mornings that i sat in my car to let a whole cackle of them cross the parking lot.this took more than a few minutes. [the first time i said to myself yeah, they're going to believe this "excuse" for lateness ;D] i am always amazed by these birds whether in flight or aground. one morning there was one goose who faced in the direction that cars enter the parking lot and stood like a crossing guard with it's chest stuck out while the others crossed behind him/her. it was amusing as well as amazing at the same time. when i heard Restless for the first time, the line "in the quietude of winter you can hear the wild geese cry, and i will always love that sound until the day i die" i identified completely and that one line hooked me on the song and it remains since in the top 10 of my list of favorite Lightfoot songs. Better, there were a few times that RESTLESS was playing on my cd player in my car and all of a sudden the unmistakable honking sound is heard in the distance right before I spot a formation of Canadian geese appearing out of the sky over the trees. i swear i almost caused an accident one time because i was riveted with the song and the birds happening at the same time.
there is a campaign by the local government to kill off these birds because of the pollution their excrement causes in the ponds and lakes. IT IS a real problem where I live [long island, ny] because most of our water supply comes from an aquafier[spelling?]. nonetheless, there is a large protest about this. surely, there is a better way.

[Islandgirl]

When I get to work every morning canadian geese are everywhere. there were a few mornings that i sat in my car to let a whole cackle of them cross the parking lot.this took more than a few minutes. [the first time i said to myself yeah, they're going to believe this "excuse" for lateness ;D] i am always amazed by these birds whether in flight or aground. one morning there was one goose who faced in the direction that cars enter the parking lot and stood like a crossing guard with it's chest stuck out while the others crossed behind him/her. it was amusing as well as amazing at the same time. when i heard Restless for the first time, the line "in the quietude of winter you can hear the wild geese cry, and i will always love that sound until the day i die" i identified completely and that one line hooked me on the song and it remains since in the top 10 of my list of favorite Lightfoot songs. Better, there were a few times that RESTLESS was playing on my cd player in my car and all of a sudden the unmistakable honking sound is heard in the distance right before I spot a formation of Canadian geese appearing out of the sky over the trees. i swear i almost caused an accident one time because i was riveted with the song and the birds happening at the same time.
there is a campaign by the local government to kill off these birds because of the pollution their excrement causes in the ponds and lakes. IT IS a real problem where I live [long island, ny] because most of our water supply comes from an aquafier[spelling?]. nonetheless, there is a large protest about this. surely, there is a better way.

[charlene]

Many towns across Lake Ontario have problems with the geese on the beaches and lakeside parks. Thousands never migrate and will over-winter in marinas and such. In the spring the eggs are 'oiled' - the eggs do not develop with this process. Sometimes they are herded and shipped to other provinces but they quickly find that they need to be culled in some way. I am in the route of probably 4 thousand that head fromt he local marina and north every day. Sometimes they are quite high but at times they can be as low as 70-100 ft. above the house...The noise is deafening...
Formations of anywhere between 3 to 40 will go over and the sky is full with them. I've seen (and heard) it take about 20 minutes for the sky to clear. The good thing is that geese do their business on the ground if you are wanting to look overhead at them passing.
We have "No Feeding" laws as well...this just encourages them to stay around and the bread etc. being fed to them is not good for them anyway. You don't want to get in the way of a mad goose who wants what you have in your hand. They can be very, very nasty!

[charlene]

Many towns across Lake Ontario have problems with the geese on the beaches and lakeside parks. Thousands never migrate and will over-winter in marinas and such. In the spring the eggs are 'oiled' - the eggs do not develop with this process. Sometimes they are herded and shipped to other provinces but they quickly find that they need to be culled in some way. I am in the route of probably 4 thousand that head fromt he local marina and north every day. Sometimes they are quite high but at times they can be as low as 70-100 ft. above the house...The noise is deafening...
Formations of anywhere between 3 to 40 will go over and the sky is full with them. I've seen (and heard) it take about 20 minutes for the sky to clear. The good thing is that geese do their business on the ground if you are wanting to look overhead at them passing.
We have "No Feeding" laws as well...this just encourages them to stay around and the bread etc. being fed to them is not good for them anyway. You don't want to get in the way of a mad goose who wants what you have in your hand. They can be very, very nasty!

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by timetraveler:
Yeah, I have to say that there really is something awsome at the sight of those beautiful birds when they're in flight. And whenever they're honking while in flight, it just makes me want to sprout wings & take off with them. It may sound odd, but for me, they're the perfect symbol of total freedom.

No that doesn't sound so odd at all. actually, I can totally relate.

There is an abundance of large birds in my area and I love to observe them, especially the red tail hawks, turkey vultures and (if you go further west) the majestic bald eagle. There are also a lot of waterfowl; geese, ducks, a few herons and just as recent as last spring we had a pair of bonny swans take residence at a small local lake where they had the cutest li'l babies

I too enjoy hearing + watching the geese as they fly in formation across the gray sky, and Gordon captures that nostalgic feeling perfectly in "Restless". It's like magick how he does that with his songs.

[Yuri]

Canada's most abundant exports...

Lightfoot Music (food for the soul))
"Goose Juice" (food for the soil}

Take one, take them both!

Canada loves you guys. Some nations give the U.S. nothing but crap!

Yuri

[Cathy]

I made the mistake of taking my Doberman, Snoop, down to Trafton Lake in Limestone one fall. The place was full of geese... geese, geese everywhere, especially down by the shore. He got out of the car, spotted them, and took off at an amazing speed to get to them. They just cleared the ground as he got there, honking very loudly, which pissed him off even more. He kept jumping in the air to try and grab their feet. It was quite a sight!
One of them got quite nasty with Snoop, and kept diving at him, which made old Snoop even more furious.
I had the worse time getting a leash on him, and getting him back home that day. I must have run at least a 1/2 mile to catch him, up and down the shoreline.

[Yuri]

More trivia,

Totally out of the blue I get a call from my old boss this a.m. and somehow, Lightfoot unrelated, the topic got around to Canadian Geese. She is full of obscure trivia as geese are full of,well,"goose juice" and informs me that Canada geese on average produce 1.1 kilograms of feces a day.

To those you metrically challenged 1.1 kilograms is equivalent to 2.425084884 pounds (give or take a bit).

No need to thank us!

(when driving to Massey in Metric Canada, just think of of the Km on speed signs as "Kanadian miles" (per hour) - our constables will thank you profusely while writing out your ticket)

Also, a few years ago there was a plan to cul the geese and use them to feed the homeless. That idea turned out to be a real "turkey" (no pun intended).

Perhaps it is not so unusual that in this day and age there was more concern over dead geese than the dying homeless. Go figure??...

Yuri

[Peter Bro10]

This thread just keeps getting better!!! Thanks for the trivia and the laughs!!!
Did you ever consider that the average Lighthead is far above average in intellegence??? You guys are amazing... Where else can I learn about "Uncle Toad" and "goose juice"????
No wonder I'm hooked on corfid!!!! I go from chuckles to choked up and then back to chuckles again.
Hey Yuri, don't worry, we (Yanks) can take the crap with the best of them!!! lol

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Peter Bro10:

Did you ever consider that the average Lighthead is far above average in intellegence???

Very interesting Peter, and did you ever consider that it is an unassailable fact that as many as 50% of the entire population is of above average intelligence anyway

[ November 04, 2006, 12:30: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Peter Bro10:

Did you ever consider that the average Lighthead is far above average in intellegence???

Very interesting Peter, and did you ever consider that it is an unassailable fact that as many as 50% of the entire population is of above average intelligence anyway

[ November 04, 2006, 12:30: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[RM]

Sir John,

I believe Peter was using this most fundamental statistical formula to arrive at his conclusion:

Percentile rank = L%i-1 + i% * (Score – LRLi) / hi

= 100* [Fi-1/FN + fi/FN*(Score–{Ui-1+ (Li-Ui-1)/2)}
(Ui-Ui-1)


i=Interval in which Score falls; i%= i’s % of total;
L%i-1=Cumulative % below interval i; LRLi=halfway pt bet. i and top of next lower interval; hi=# range of i.

Fi=Cumul. count 0 to I (FN=N); fi= count of items in i; Li/Ui=Lower/upper score of i;

36

Just plug in the variables...it's quite simple.
(Just joking....I have no idea what any of that means....just messin' with ya.)

[Yuri]

Intelligence of Lightheads;

Math was never my forte however I attempted to plug in the variables at hand into RDM's above formula and also took into consideration "Drake's equation*" relating to those galaxies which would have solar units of adequate radiant energy to heat solid planets at sufficient distance to allow for an atmosphere capable of shielding harmful radiation while permiting water in liquid form to assist DNA's spontanious formation and eventual evolution into intellegent life forms capable of communicating across the vastness of the universe at a frequency capable of our interpretation before destroying themselves with their own technology.

My calculations tell me that less than 1% of life on earth is actually intelligent as they are true Lightfoot fans. 73% actually enjoy RAP or HipHop and are beyond help. 62% are lawyers or politicians and the remainding percentile feel that Dr. Phil has all the answers. Need I say more?

Let's face facts. No other planet in this galaxy or even the universe has Gordon Lightfoot (or his "dopple ganger") and ergo, cannot by definition be called "intelligent". (intellectual discussion on this subject is invited)

*for verification, more on "Drake's Equation" can be found below;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

Goose Juice?, Universal Intelligence?, man have we ever drifted from Peter Bro10's original thread of being delighted in finding this 'Corfid' site. Any second thoughts yet Peter?