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Old 10-05-2004, 09:33 PM   #26
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Hi John,
We have salt and vinegar potato chips here also. An acquired taste, but not bad, if you like vinegar (which I do).

Ah, so canadian bacon is actually back bacon. Well, that solves that little mystery.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:52 PM   #27
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quote:Originally posted by LSH:
I suck at keeping old paperwork. ARGH.
I thought I was doing myself a favor by finally updating my license with my current address (I've only been at it for 3 years!). SO, I get this done, only to find out that if my license was issued sooner than 6 mos. ago, and if my surname is different than the surname on my birth certificate, I need a TON of paperwork to prove who I am. SHEESH. Like I kept my first marriage certificate???
So, I am drowning in old paper, have an official copy of my birth certificate on the way and am going to pay dearly for expedited passport service.
I just have to remember, it will all be worth it in the end, right?
(oh why didn't I just go back to my maiden name???)


It is a pain in the butt, but a passport is the best ID you can have. I had to go back and get my marriage and divorce records and my name change records besides the birth certificate too. You'll be able to do it. Just congers up icky memories. eeeeewwww.
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quote:Originally posted by LSH:
I suck at keeping old paperwork. ARGH.
I thought I was doing myself a favor by finally updating my license with my current address (I've only been at it for 3 years!). SO, I get this done, only to find out that if my license was issued sooner than 6 mos. ago, and if my surname is different than the surname on my birth certificate, I need a TON of paperwork to prove who I am. SHEESH. Like I kept my first marriage certificate???
So, I am drowning in old paper, have an official copy of my birth certificate on the way and am going to pay dearly for expedited passport service.
I just have to remember, it will all be worth it in the end, right?
(oh why didn't I just go back to my maiden name???)


It is a pain in the butt, but a passport is the best ID you can have. I had to go back and get my marriage and divorce records and my name change records besides the birth certificate too. You'll be able to do it. Just congers up icky memories. eeeeewwww.
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:15 PM   #29
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Well thank you both for having pointed out to me one of the very few benefits of never having been married.


quote:Originally posted by brink:
It is a pain in the butt, but a passport is the best ID you can have. I had to go back and get my marriage and divorce records and my name change records besides the birth certificate too. You'll be able to do it. Just congers up icky memories. eeeeewwww.

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Well thank you both for having pointed out to me one of the very few benefits of never having been married.


quote:Originally posted by brink:
It is a pain in the butt, but a passport is the best ID you can have. I had to go back and get my marriage and divorce records and my name change records besides the birth certificate too. You'll be able to do it. Just congers up icky memories. eeeeewwww.

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quote:Originally posted by LSH:
I just have to remember, it will all be worth it in the end, right?

ya, especially the Canadian beers, ok beer
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Old 10-06-2004, 12:11 AM   #32
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quote:Originally posted by LSH:
I just have to remember, it will all be worth it in the end, right?

ya, especially the Canadian beers, ok beer
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:38 PM   #33
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Violet!
Are you implying that there are actually benefits to being married???????????
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Old 10-06-2004, 06:27 PM   #34
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quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Well thank you both for having pointed out to me one of the very few benefits of never having been married.




Anything for a friend Violet!
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Old 10-06-2004, 06:27 PM   #35
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quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Well thank you both for having pointed out to me one of the very few benefits of never having been married.




Anything for a friend Violet!
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Old 10-07-2004, 08:22 PM   #36
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I LOVE vital check. I ordered everything from the counties they took place in online. ah. virtual depletion of my paycheck.
I will definitely hang on to these records...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by donquixote:
[B] Note that "Back Bacon" to a Canadian is "Canadian Bacon" to an American.

Also, don't forget to try the Salt and Vinegar potato chips while you're visiting.

I must've missed this earlier. Sounds like our local diet. On the Eastern Shore of Maryland, USA they serve vinegar with what we call french fries and s&v potato chips are a staple. One famous boardwalk vendor even has a sign that reads "please do not ask for ketchup". And pork is pork, no matter how you slice it. So it sounds like I'm coming home, LOL. Thanks for the info.

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Old 10-08-2004, 08:14 AM   #38
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French fries and potato chips are two different things. Potato chips come in bags-for instance - LAYS. Salt & Vinegar is a flavour added to them. Being of a certain age and not having chemically altered/flavoured potato chips when I was a kid I just sprinkled vinegar right on my chips!
French fries with vinegar, salt, ketchup are de rigeur unless you have poutine-cheese curds and gravy on your fries...
Floridians don't use vinegar on their fries...or so it seemed when I was down there....a lot of mayo dipping tho!
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Old 10-08-2004, 08:14 AM   #39
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French fries and potato chips are two different things. Potato chips come in bags-for instance - LAYS. Salt & Vinegar is a flavour added to them. Being of a certain age and not having chemically altered/flavoured potato chips when I was a kid I just sprinkled vinegar right on my chips!
French fries with vinegar, salt, ketchup are de rigeur unless you have poutine-cheese curds and gravy on your fries...
Floridians don't use vinegar on their fries...or so it seemed when I was down there....a lot of mayo dipping tho!
lol
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Old 10-08-2004, 08:27 AM   #40
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Mayo on fries??? ewwwwwwwwwww lol
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Mayo on fries??? ewwwwwwwwwww lol
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Old 10-08-2004, 10:42 AM   #42
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mummph Vinegar hate it in excess on anything
(a waste of grapes).
Anyway you are all completely missing the point
In England where "fish and chips" no doubt originated a "chip" is a friggin "french fry" and what you yanks call a "chip" is
a good old potato crisp in the terminolgy of their inventors (the no longer available?? Smiths Crisps not sodden Lays)


picture of a latter day Smiths packet (after they tried to push the inclusion of the hitherto traditional do-it-yourself salt packet)
IMHO the incorrect American use of "french fries" is purely due to the subservience in the 18th century by the newly independant folks on this side of the pond (including Canadians but that is another story) to all things/syatems/words from their recent allies in "frog-eating" France. Hence the fact that you all over here drive on the wrong side of the road and also that the Americans do not have a logical Left and Right sitting arrangement in their legislative assemblies, but rather the elected people are seated (as in France) in a stupid circle resulting in endlees shades/leanings of political thought and consequent confusion among the voters (just watch the current presidential debates here and try to decide just who is on the "left wing" (politically not the television series duh...)
Now where was I?? Oh yes vinegar!!
It is a fact that in most of the UK fish and chip emporiums the servers tend to have a very heavy hand with both the salt and vinegar shakers so unless you specify "just a little salt and vinegar please" it is almost impossible to taste the delicacy of the fish or the chips
in trying to find a pic of a Smiths crisps packet I found:-
http://www.bubblegun.com/culturepop/chrisps.html
which incudes a quiz (one answer to the final question is of course
"Gay-Poo Bumhole Piss Crisps" to which the obvious retort US style is go figure!!)
and which is good for a good few chuckles including:
"We’re also missing the long-gone Smiths, and their benchmark Cheese And Onion and Salt And Vinegar, and their abortive
attempt to introduce flavoured Salt And Shake crisps. Even so, Smith’s standard Ready Salted always tasted like someone had
pulled their trousers down, and sat in the vat on a hot summer’s afternoon."
quote:Originally posted by Gord re "Mayo on fries???":
ewwwwwwwwwww
I recall that in Holland the purchase of their "patates frites" inevitably entailed a liberal spread of Mayo which I personally prefer over vinegar any old day
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Old 10-08-2004, 10:42 AM   #43
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mummph Vinegar hate it in excess on anything
(a waste of grapes).
Anyway you are all completely missing the point
In England where "fish and chips" no doubt originated a "chip" is a friggin "french fry" and what you yanks call a "chip" is
a good old potato crisp in the terminolgy of their inventors (the no longer available?? Smiths Crisps not sodden Lays)


picture of a latter day Smiths packet (after they tried to push the inclusion of the hitherto traditional do-it-yourself salt packet)
IMHO the incorrect American use of "french fries" is purely due to the subservience in the 18th century by the newly independant folks on this side of the pond (including Canadians but that is another story) to all things/syatems/words from their recent allies in "frog-eating" France. Hence the fact that you all over here drive on the wrong side of the road and also that the Americans do not have a logical Left and Right sitting arrangement in their legislative assemblies, but rather the elected people are seated (as in France) in a stupid circle resulting in endlees shades/leanings of political thought and consequent confusion among the voters (just watch the current presidential debates here and try to decide just who is on the "left wing" (politically not the television series duh...)
Now where was I?? Oh yes vinegar!!
It is a fact that in most of the UK fish and chip emporiums the servers tend to have a very heavy hand with both the salt and vinegar shakers so unless you specify "just a little salt and vinegar please" it is almost impossible to taste the delicacy of the fish or the chips
in trying to find a pic of a Smiths crisps packet I found:-
http://www.bubblegun.com/culturepop/chrisps.html
which incudes a quiz (one answer to the final question is of course
"Gay-Poo Bumhole Piss Crisps" to which the obvious retort US style is go figure!!)
and which is good for a good few chuckles including:
"We’re also missing the long-gone Smiths, and their benchmark Cheese And Onion and Salt And Vinegar, and their abortive
attempt to introduce flavoured Salt And Shake crisps. Even so, Smith’s standard Ready Salted always tasted like someone had
pulled their trousers down, and sat in the vat on a hot summer’s afternoon."
quote:Originally posted by Gord re "Mayo on fries???":
ewwwwwwwwwww
I recall that in Holland the purchase of their "patates frites" inevitably entailed a liberal spread of Mayo which I personally prefer over vinegar any old day
So there!!


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Old 10-08-2004, 07:18 PM   #44
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hoo boy. ok. I didn't realize Canadians also referred to fries as chips. I like a wee bit of vinegar on my "chips" occasionally. mostly, I like a catsup/mustard mix.
Mayo would just be gross...
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Old 10-09-2004, 02:47 AM   #45
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We cross over into Canada at Niagara Falls 2-3 times a year with our drivers licenses & passports. We've never had a problem & have never been searched. I always hear from people with SUVs or vans that they get searched every time coming back into the states.

Going into Canada they ask what you're bringing into the country & if you have guns, knives, etc. They ask what the purpose of your visit is & how long you'll be there.
Some of the border guards are a bit gruff & some are more friendly.

Going back into the USA they want to know what you're bringing back. By the time I'm 1/2 way through my inventory of purchases they can't get rid of us fast enough! LoL...

If you're hungry while in the Niagara Falls area there's a restaurant on the Canadian side called "The Filling Station" with great
bar-b-qued baby back ribs & chicken. omg...
Really incredible!

The Falls are so gorgeous & overwhelming each time you see them - esp. at night with the lights on. Absolutely spectacular!

The thing we love best about Canada is how warm & friendly the people are. And they're
also extremely polite. (including the children & teenagers) Canadians also seem to be a bit more sophisticated than most Americans. It's a bit of culture shock but we like it!

Fun fun everyone!

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quote:Originally posted by charlene:
French fries and potato chips are two different things. Potato chips come in bags-for instance - LAYS. Salt & Vinegar is a flavour added to them. Being of a certain age and not having chemically altered/flavoured potato chips when I was a kid I just sprinkled vinegar right on my chips!
French fries with vinegar, salt, ketchup are de rigeur unless you have poutine-cheese curds and gravy on your fries...
Floridians don't use vinegar on their fries...or so it seemed when I was down there....a lot of mayo dipping tho!
lol


OK then ! Our terms seem the same as far as these two food choices are concerned. But assuming for a second that I have time to eat a full meal on this whirlwind trip can I assume "hamburger" and "steak" mean "ground beef grilled" and "unground beef grilled" ? LOL. Maybe I'll just walk around with John F. and let him order for me.

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Yes, then afterward you can go to the "Loo"
Well I ROTFL when I found out what that was. I thought it was some Oriental guy named Loo.
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quote:Originally posted by AnotherKathryn:
We cross over into Canada at Niagara Falls 2-3 times a year with our drivers licenses & passports. We've never had a problem & have never been searched. I always hear from people with SUVs or vans that they get searched every time coming back into the states.

Going into Canada they ask what you're bringing into the country & if you have guns, knives, etc. They ask what the purpose of your visit is & how long you'll be there.
Some of the border guards are a bit gruff & some are more friendly.

Going back into the USA they want to know what you're bringing back. By the time I'm 1/2 way through my inventory of purchases they can't get rid of us fast enough! LoL...

If you're hungry while in the Niagara Falls area there's a restaurant on the Canadian side called "The Filling Station" with great
bar-b-qued baby back ribs & chicken. omg...
Really incredible!

The Falls are so gorgeous & overwhelming each time you see them - esp. at night with the lights on. Absolutely spectacular!

The thing we love best about Canada is how warm & friendly the people are. And they're
also extremely polite. (including the children & teenagers) Canadians also seem to be a bit more sophisticated than most Americans. It's a bit of culture shock but we like it!

Fun fun everyone!



My mother and I were just talking about our trip to Canada, they also don't like you to take fruit in. We had just stopped at a fruit stand in Michigan. The Border guards enjoyed the fruit. Then coming back out I was stopped and they kept asking me if my mother was really my mother. We just laughed about that one. We came back through in Maine. I love it in Canada everyone is really friendly and courteous. So unlike the cities here.
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quote:Originally posted by AnotherKathryn:
We cross over into Canada at Niagara Falls 2-3 times a year with our drivers licenses & passports. We've never had a problem & have never been searched. I always hear from people with SUVs or vans that they get searched every time coming back into the states.

Going into Canada they ask what you're bringing into the country & if you have guns, knives, etc. They ask what the purpose of your visit is & how long you'll be there.
Some of the border guards are a bit gruff & some are more friendly.

Going back into the USA they want to know what you're bringing back. By the time I'm 1/2 way through my inventory of purchases they can't get rid of us fast enough! LoL...

If you're hungry while in the Niagara Falls area there's a restaurant on the Canadian side called "The Filling Station" with great
bar-b-qued baby back ribs & chicken. omg...
Really incredible!

The Falls are so gorgeous & overwhelming each time you see them - esp. at night with the lights on. Absolutely spectacular!

The thing we love best about Canada is how warm & friendly the people are. And they're
also extremely polite. (including the children & teenagers) Canadians also seem to be a bit more sophisticated than most Americans. It's a bit of culture shock but we like it!

Fun fun everyone!



My mother and I were just talking about our trip to Canada, they also don't like you to take fruit in. We had just stopped at a fruit stand in Michigan. The Border guards enjoyed the fruit. Then coming back out I was stopped and they kept asking me if my mother was really my mother. We just laughed about that one. We came back through in Maine. I love it in Canada everyone is really friendly and courteous. So unlike the cities here.
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quote:Originally posted by stationmaster:
Yes, then afterward you can go to the "Loo"
Well I ROTFL when I found out what that was. I thought it was some Oriental guy named Loo.

Very interesting SM I have always meant to find out the derivation of the word "loo"
a quick google for "loo derivation" produced a detailed and fascinating ilustrated historical theory at:- http://www.michaelkelly.fsnet.co.uk/loo.htm
whiuch includes such germs as:-
"This is a very interesting question, and experts have debated it for years. Some authorities maintain that, like many an English tradition, the word 'loo' commemorates the death of a great number of Frenchmen, and derives in fact from the Battle of Waterloo."

British soldiers would come home and say, 'Hey, you'll never guess what, all the froggies
weed themselves and the guv'nor, quick as a flash, he goes, 'Waterloo? Water-Closet, more like, ha ha ha.'

Another possibility, however, is that the word 'loo' is an abbreviation of the word 'loony'
because the smallest room in the house was politely refered to as where a lunatic relation was kept out of view.
there are many great definitrions of UK expressions on the folowing site which should be required viewing for all Americans:-

including:-
"loo n. What we call the loo is what Americans very politely call the restroom. I believe that the derivation of this word is
from a long time ago when people used to shout "gardez l'eau" (the French equivalent of "look out for the water") and throw
their human waste out of the window onto gutters in the street."
other interesting entries include:-
"leg over n. Yep, more sex. To get one's leg over does indeed mean clambering over another person with the intention of
prodding at them"
and appropos earlier references in this topic:-
"chips n. Fries. However, it's lately been popular to call "thin" chips fries (I blame McDonalds) so Brits at least know what
fries are these days. Classic chips can be obtained from a chip shop ("chippie") and are a great deal more unhealthy. They
also vary quite creatively - if you buy them at nine o'clock in the evening they are hard, black and crunchy (because they've
been cooking since 6:30pm when the dinner rush came through) but if you buy them at 3am you will find them very akin to raw
potatoes, right down to the green bits in the middle (because they want all of these drunk punters out of the door so they
can go home). Since writing this, I have been told by a contributor that British chips are in fact more healthy than fries -
something to do with surface area and fat. Trust me, though... the British ones still look pretty gruesome"
and
crisps n.
"Chips. This particular confusion caused me no end of troubles in the US - I've never been so disappointed with a
bag of chips in my life (I'd even have preferred the 3am green ones)."
To summarise my initial entry here
It is no wonder that Brits look askance on the idea that anyone would wish to christen their child "Lou Rawls" which sounds
exactly like a bog roll
Bog???
bog n. One of our more... down-to-earth... words meaning toilet. More likely to be used in the context of "d'y'hear Fat Bob
took a kicking in the bogs in Scruffy Murphy's?" rather than "I say, Mrs. Bryce-Waldergard, I'm awfully sorry to trouble you
but I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of your bog?".
I also rather liked:-
bumf n.
"Copious amounts of paperwork or literature - you might hear people talk about the stack of bumf that came with their new video-recorder (VCR) . A contributor tells me it derives from the army and is a contraction of the phrase "bum fodder", meaning toilet paper
which neatly leads into
"bogie n. One of the charming little things everyone excavates from their nose now and again but likes to pretend they don't.
Americans call them "boogers"."
I also found during my searches that a well known Anglo-Saxon FLA (four-leter-acronym) is short for
"Felonious Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
and finally go to:- http://www.uberbitchblog.com/index/weblog/comments/51/
scroll down to
3.10 Most Famous uses For That Word


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