dylan and lightfoot

[DiggerBoy]

Well, Char, that review you posted pretty much hit the nail on the head. I'm glad I checked in here before I went to the concert or I would have been disappointed.
Dylan's vocals, were, well let's just say 'WHAT?' And just as the article said, there were new twists to old songs...so much so that I didn't know what he was singing half of the time. I was thrilled to hear 'All Along the Watchtower' but I hardly recognized it. The new arrangements almost seemed lazy to me. But I suppose after playing alot of the same songs for 40 years, you have to do something to it as a musician or you would be bored to death.
He did not speak to the crowd or the band. We did see a couple of smiles (or were they grimaces?) The band seemed to be bored with the whole thing, but really were in great form. They made the show for me.
So now I'm one of those that can say yeah, I've seen him in concert. Was he great, well...okay, I guess so. Sorta. He is who he is and there is something to be said for that.
When we were walking out, 2 60ish hippies in front of us said, 'Well, I couldn't understand him tonight any more than I could 40 years ago. I guess we weren't as high as we thought back then." My sister and I got a big kick out of that!
It was definately an experience. I had to see him at least once.
Check that off my list of concerts to see.
Hmmmmmm, who should it be next?

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Kathy in Michigan:
He is who he is and there is something to be said for that.
When we were walking out, 2 60ish hippies in front of us said, 'Well, I couldn't understand him tonight any more than I could 40 years ago. I guess we weren't as high as we thought back then." My sister and I got a big kick out of that!

Great review Kathy.and I have no doubts that your wonderful "understand" anecdote will very shortly (at least as soon as Mende Joveski wakes up) be in circulation on at least a dozen Dylan message boards/pools!!

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Kathy in Michigan:
He is who he is and there is something to be said for that.
When we were walking out, 2 60ish hippies in front of us said, 'Well, I couldn't understand him tonight any more than I could 40 years ago. I guess we weren't as high as we thought back then." My sister and I got a big kick out of that!

Great review Kathy.and I have no doubts that your wonderful "understand" anecdote will very shortly (at least as soon as Mende Joveski wakes up) be in circulation on at least a dozen Dylan message boards/pools!!

[charlene]

Too funny Kathy!
I liked the 'thankfully he played harmonica' line!
And no doubt the one hippie was right..my daughter and I heard an old Dylan tune on the radio/tv channel we get and she looked at me and said "who the hell is that?" I said it was Bob Dylan and she said "what's wrong with his voice? I can't understand what he's singing!"
lol
She had a grand time at Mariposa and I'm glad she enjoys these wacky adventures she has with me/Lightfoot and the folks she meets through this common admiration of Lightfoot music.

[charlene]

Too funny Kathy!
I liked the 'thankfully he played harmonica' line!
And no doubt the one hippie was right..my daughter and I heard an old Dylan tune on the radio/tv channel we get and she looked at me and said "who the hell is that?" I said it was Bob Dylan and she said "what's wrong with his voice? I can't understand what he's singing!"
lol
She had a grand time at Mariposa and I'm glad she enjoys these wacky adventures she has with me/Lightfoot and the folks she meets through this common admiration of Lightfoot music.

[DiggerBoy]

I hate to put in my 2 cents if it's negative. I would rather find the good in something. So overall Dylan's concert was enjoyable. And let me say again, because of the review Char posted, I had an idea what to expect from the concert(or what not to expect, as the case may be). So he's not a great Showman, but his music speaks for itself and in that way, he's a genius.

But really, honestly, I would rather have spent the $55 on Gordon. Without a doubt!

[Kathy in Michigan]

I hate to put in my 2 cents if it's negative. I would rather find the good in something. So overall Dylan's concert was enjoyable. And let me say again, because of the review Char posted, I had an idea what to expect from the concert(or what not to expect, as the case may be). So he's not a great Showman, but his music speaks for itself and in that way, he's a genius.

But really, honestly, I would rather have spent the $55 on Gordon. Without a doubt!

[joveski]

Originally posted by johnfowles:
quote:Originally posted by Kathy in Michigan:
He is who he is and there is something to be said for that.
When we were walking out, 2 60ish hippies in front of us said, 'Well, I couldn't understand him tonight any more than I could 40 years ago. I guess we weren't as high as we thought back then." My sister and I got a big kick out of that!

Great review Kathy.and I have no doubts that your wonderful "understand" anecdote will very shortly (at least as soon as Mende Joveski wakes up) be in circulation on at least a dozen Dylan message boards/pools!! [/QUOTE]morning!

i only visit 2 of them :D

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by joveski:

Great review Kathy.and I have no doubts that your wonderful "understand" anecdote will very shortly (at least as soon as Mende Joveski wakes up) be in circulation on at least a dozen Dylan message boards/pools!!

morning!

i only visit 2 of them :D

Yes but then there are other worldwide Dylanites
(dilatentes??)who could read anything you post on those two who could then post elsewhere so my 12 could be an underestimate
And remember how the Australian rabbit and fox and New Zealand stoat populations got out of hand!!
stoats were originally introduced to New Zealand to help control rabbit numbers after rabbits got in from Australia. and bred like well err umm... rabbits



from an information booth on the road to Milford Sound South Island NZ.
This has been a public service posting by
John Fowles BT
designed to stimulate your old and tired grey matter!!

[ July 11, 2007, 16:27: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by joveski:

Great review Kathy.and I have no doubts that your wonderful "understand" anecdote will very shortly (at least as soon as Mende Joveski wakes up) be in circulation on at least a dozen Dylan message boards/pools!!

morning!

i only visit 2 of them :D

Yes but then there are other worldwide Dylanites
(dilatentes??)who could read anything you post on those two who could then post elsewhere so my 12 could be an underestimate
And remember how the Australian rabbit and fox and New Zealand stoat populations got out of hand!!
stoats were originally introduced to New Zealand to help control rabbit numbers after rabbits got in from Australia. and bred like well err umm... rabbits



from an information booth on the road to Milford Sound South Island NZ.
This has been a public service posting by
John Fowles BT
designed to stimulate your old and tired grey matter!!

[ July 11, 2007, 16:27: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[betterway86]

I've missed out on a recent chance to see Dylan and regret I hadn't made more of an effort.

Last year he performed at the Peace concert in the city of Donastia, Euskadi (the Basque Country in Northern Spain). Also performing there -Mikel Laboa, my favorite Basque folk singer -he's the most popular contemporary folk singer/songwriter in Euskadi or perhaps even Euskal Herria ('Land of the people who speak Eskera [Basque]')for that matter.

I was surprised to have read that there were 80,000 in attendance!

These performers, and including Gordon Lightfoot, are living icons in their perspective countries (or in the case of Euskadi..an autonomous region)and beyond.

Mikel is a very important part of the current cultural movement in Euskadi, and the youth are a huge part of all this. That's just not happening right now with Dylan in the USA and Lightfoot in CA...although I'd imagine the Canadian Idol has opened up the door for a new generation of fans.

But Dylan and Lightfoot et al., have been that for us in our youth (for those of us who are 'older' now). So of course there's a nostalgia there for us, as well as a love and respect for the music together with the times.

Our youth need to be guided in order to experience the music, etc., they need to be exposed to it of course.

At my son's high school graduation a couple of years ago...which was held at the Jorgensen Auditorium (GL's been there!) all us parents, were really excited about seeing Peter Tork! He was the commencement speaker..the class valedictoriam introduced him as one of the "Fab Four"!

We got a laugh out of that one and Peter was both flattered and flabbergasted!

Seriously though, I've always felt strongly about having my son listen and understand all types of music. From the time he was a toddler...well he was at the Newport Folk Festival in 1991? I've taken him to any concert that I reasonably could...even my favorite band of all time, Traffic!

The last time we went to a concert together, was last Novemeber at Jorgensen...we went to see "Woody's boy", Arlo. Well it was Arlo and family..his son on drums, and his daughter has a beautiful voice. Her husbands' singing voice sounds very Neil Youngish...and being a huge Neil fan, I got a kick out of that.

I think my son was the only teenager there...except for the ushers!

Oooops I didn't mean to write so much! Anyway, there's ups and downs to having a kid who likes a variety of music and that which mirrors my own. Like I'll be looking for one of MY CD's...he thinks because we like the same music, that these are 'ours'. Well I really don't mind, except for those times I'm scrambling around lokking for a CD that I'm intent on playing.

And of course it can be a bit embarassing to be out in public with your kid when he decides to start singing "Dust Bowl Refugee". People look at you real funny. But when they do, I'll just start singing along and maybe break into 'Pretty Boy Floyd'.

Oh! I mentioned Woody because of Dylan...since Dylan was so heavily influenced by Woody. And even for those folk singer/songwriters who don't consider Woody a large influence, they've learned alot from Woody's and many others experiences, when it comes to protecting and controlling their work. For those of you who never heard of that - the songs Woody wrote (and recordings, etc) with funds commissioned by the WPA, were consider as 'works for hire' and owned by the US Government. After awhile, I think Woody just didn't give a dem.

I've missed out on a recent chance to see Dylan and regret I hadn't made more of an effort.

Last year he performed at the Peace concert in the city of Donastia, Euskadi (the Basque Country in Northern Spain). Also performing there -Mikel Laboa, my favorite Basque folk singer -he's the most popular contemporary folk singer/songwriter in Euskadi or perhaps even Euskal Herria ('Land of the people who speak Eskera [Basque]')for that matter.

I was surprised to have read that there were 80,000 in attendance!

These performers, and including Gordon Lightfoot, are living icons in their perspective countries (or in the case of Euskadi..an autonomous region)and beyond.

Mikel is a very important part of the current cultural movement in Euskadi, and the youth are a huge part of all this. That's just not happening right now with Dylan in the USA and Lightfoot in CA...although I'd imagine the Canadian Idol has opened up the door for a new generation of fans.

But Dylan and Lightfoot et al., have been that for us in our youth (for those of us who are 'older' now). So of course there's a nostalgia there for us, as well as a love and respect for the music together with the times.

Our youth need to be guided in order to experience the music, etc., they need to be exposed to it of course.

At my son's high school graduation a couple of years ago...which was held at the Jorgensen Auditorium (GL's been there!) all us parents, were really excited about seeing Peter Tork! He was the commencement speaker..the class valedictoriam introduced him as one of the "Fab Four"!

We got a laugh out of that one and Peter was both flattered and flabbergasted!

Seriously though, I've always felt strongly about having my son listen and understand all types of music. From the time he was a toddler...well he was at the Newport Folk Festival in 1991? I've taken him to any concert that I reasonably could...even my favorite band of all time, Traffic!

The last time we went to a concert together, was last Novemeber at Jorgensen...we went to see "Woody's boy", Arlo. Well it was Arlo and family..his son on drums, and his daughter has a beautiful voice. Her husbands' singing voice sounds very Neil Youngish...and being a huge Neil fan, I got a kick out of that.

I think my son was the only teenager there...except for the ushers!

Oooops I didn't mean to write so much! Anyway, there's ups and downs to having a kid who likes a variety of music and that which mirrors my own. Like I'll be looking for one of MY CD's...he thinks because we like the same music, that these are 'ours'. Well I really don't mind, except for those times I'm scrambling around lokking for a CD that I'm intent on playing.

And of course it can be a bit embarassing to be out in public with your kid when he decides to start singing "Dust Bowl Refugee". People look at you real funny. But when they do, I'll just start singing along and maybe break into 'Pretty Boy Floyd'.

Oh! I mentioned Woody because of Dylan...since Dylan was so heavily influenced by Woody. And even for those folk singer/songwriters who don't consider Woody a large influence, they've learned alot from Woody's and many others experiences, when it comes to protecting and controlling their work. For those of you who never heard of that - the songs Woody wrote (and recordings, etc) with funds commissioned by the WPA, were consider as 'works for hire' and owned by the US Government. After awhile, I think Woody just didn't give a dem.