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Janice,
Neil Young. Joni Mitchell, Michael J. Fox, Jim Carrey. David Foster. And the list could go on and on. They live in the USA, it's there home. They may come to visit once in a while, in Canada to accept Canadian Awards. They alway's say Im proud to be Canadian,(LOL) but love the chance and the opportunity to live and work in the USA.
Gordon Lightfoot and Anne Murray never did.
Gordon Lightfoot has never considered the United States home.
Anne Murray, has often said, of Canada, "I have travelled all around the world, and I choose to live here, because this is by far the best Country in the world to live in."
Proud Canadians!!!
[ July 24, 2006, 08:37: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]
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07-24-2006, 08:18 AM
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Janice,
Neil Young. Joni Mitchell, Michael J. Fox, Jim Carrey. David Foster. And the list could go on and on. They live in the USA, it's there home. They may come to visit once in a while, in Canada to accept Canadian Awards. They alway's say Im proud to be Canadian,(LOL) but love the chance and the opportunity to live and work in the USA.
Gordon Lightfoot and Anne Murray never did.
Gordon Lightfoot has never considered the United States home.
Anne Murray, has often said, of Canada, "I have travelled all around the world, and I choose to live here, because this is by far the best Country in the world to live in."
Proud Canadians!!!
[ July 24, 2006, 08:37: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]
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07-24-2006, 08:59 AM
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He was at Westlake School for one school year I believe and then headed back to Toronto to begin his career.
He studied orchestration, lyric writing etc.
He bunked in with Joni Mitchell in Detroit (maybe Cleveland) once for short stay.
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07-24-2006, 08:59 AM
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He was at Westlake School for one school year I believe and then headed back to Toronto to begin his career.
He studied orchestration, lyric writing etc.
He bunked in with Joni Mitchell in Detroit (maybe Cleveland) once for short stay.
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07-24-2006, 10:03 AM
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That's right. He lived here for two semesters as a student while he went to Westlake. He never changed his citizenship or anything. He's a Canadian and wants to stay that way.
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07-24-2006, 11:11 AM
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Jesse, Janice never said that he considered the US home. She said he did live here. You didn't put a time limit on how long. He also has a son, Galen, in the LA area. The US was easy to work in, he made a lot of money playing here.
He has said time and again that he is proud to be a Canadian. He probably would have been more popular if he had lived in the US, but, I think he has enough money to retire on.
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07-24-2006, 11:17 AM
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I think he has enough money to retire on. [/QB]
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I don't think we need to have a tag day for him.....
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07-24-2006, 11:17 AM
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I think he has enough money to retire on. [/QB]
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I don't think we need to have a tag day for him.....
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07-24-2006, 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jesse -Joe:
Touhy Ave, I never moved to the states, because I never had to. I was born Canadian, and I am proud to be Canadian.
There was a time when Canadian Artist(signers), had to move to the states, in order to make it big.
More population I guess was the prime reason. There was just not enough people in Canada. Neil Young, once said. There's only so much places you can play in Canada. There's just not enough population. Goverment, with the CRTC,rules and regulation at that time, also had a role to play in it. Radio Stations in Canada were only allowed to play so much of Canadian content. Dont ask me to explain that one I dont know enough about it.
But artist like, Paul Anka, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, David Foster, and many more, too numerous to mentioned, all headed South in order for there careers to really flourished.
Gordon Lightfoot never did, he proved that you could make it big in the world, and remain at home.
Anne Murray was pressured so much, to move to the states, when her career got in motion, to become a Mega Star. But she also decide not too, after seeing that Gord had proven, you could stay at home, and still make it.
At some point in Canadian history, maybe around the 1900's, ordinary people that would leave Canada for a less strugling life, elsewhere in other country's like USA, were called deserters.
Today things have change somewhat. But for you people that never heard of this, you should do some searching, readings, on the country of Canada.
There are probably some people on this site that could explain this better than I did. Because I dont know everything there is to know about this subject. Not an expert, far from it.
Bottom line is, Gordon Lightfoot never had the desire to become a mega star like ,let's say Celine Dion, Paul Anka who did it his way.{LOL} eh! Charlene. Gordon would have made a lot more money had he chose that path, but maybe wouldn't be as happy. "That's a proud Canadian".
I can only speak for myself here, but that's one big reason why I like Gordon Lightfoot so much.
{Heart Of Gold,30 Years of Canadian Pop music by, Martin Melhuish}, would be a good book to read, it says a lot about this very subject.Why bands who had to move to the states. And lots more. Ronnie Hawkins did the exact opposite. And he for an American, pushes Canadian talent a lot.
I hope I shed a little light on this topic, but please feel free to ask some other Canadian Corfidians, who may be able to explain this better. Im sure they can...Jesse.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Janice, I didn't want to leave you in the dark, but I can't recall Gordon Lightfoot ever living in the states. Not saying maybe for some months like a lots of canucks do in the winter time. Florida, to enjoy the better whether. But Im pretty sure he's not an American citizen. Not that theres anything wrong with that...Jesse
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough I was wondering why the interviewer asked Gordon such a question.
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07-24-2006, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jesse -Joe:
Touhy Ave, I never moved to the states, because I never had to. I was born Canadian, and I am proud to be Canadian.
There was a time when Canadian Artist(signers), had to move to the states, in order to make it big.
More population I guess was the prime reason. There was just not enough people in Canada. Neil Young, once said. There's only so much places you can play in Canada. There's just not enough population. Goverment, with the CRTC,rules and regulation at that time, also had a role to play in it. Radio Stations in Canada were only allowed to play so much of Canadian content. Dont ask me to explain that one I dont know enough about it.
But artist like, Paul Anka, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, David Foster, and many more, too numerous to mentioned, all headed South in order for there careers to really flourished.
Gordon Lightfoot never did, he proved that you could make it big in the world, and remain at home.
Anne Murray was pressured so much, to move to the states, when her career got in motion, to become a Mega Star. But she also decide not too, after seeing that Gord had proven, you could stay at home, and still make it.
At some point in Canadian history, maybe around the 1900's, ordinary people that would leave Canada for a less strugling life, elsewhere in other country's like USA, were called deserters.
Today things have change somewhat. But for you people that never heard of this, you should do some searching, readings, on the country of Canada.
There are probably some people on this site that could explain this better than I did. Because I dont know everything there is to know about this subject. Not an expert, far from it.
Bottom line is, Gordon Lightfoot never had the desire to become a mega star like ,let's say Celine Dion, Paul Anka who did it his way.{LOL} eh! Charlene. Gordon would have made a lot more money had he chose that path, but maybe wouldn't be as happy. "That's a proud Canadian".
I can only speak for myself here, but that's one big reason why I like Gordon Lightfoot so much.
{Heart Of Gold,30 Years of Canadian Pop music by, Martin Melhuish}, would be a good book to read, it says a lot about this very subject.Why bands who had to move to the states. And lots more. Ronnie Hawkins did the exact opposite. And he for an American, pushes Canadian talent a lot.
I hope I shed a little light on this topic, but please feel free to ask some other Canadian Corfidians, who may be able to explain this better. Im sure they can...Jesse.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Janice, I didn't want to leave you in the dark, but I can't recall Gordon Lightfoot ever living in the states. Not saying maybe for some months like a lots of canucks do in the winter time. Florida, to enjoy the better whether. But Im pretty sure he's not an American citizen. Not that theres anything wrong with that...Jesse
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough I was wondering why the interviewer asked Gordon such a question.
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07-24-2006, 08:41 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough I was wondering why the interviewer asked Gordon such a question. [/QB][/QUOTE]
well perhaps no one answered because only the interviewer could answer that question.
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07-24-2006, 08:41 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough I was wondering why the interviewer asked Gordon such a question. [/QB][/QUOTE]
well perhaps no one answered because only the interviewer could answer that question.
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07-25-2006, 07:45 AM
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Let's be clear on the subject here. Gordon Lightfoot doesn't hate the USA, I, dont hate the USA.
He was simply the first, Canadian entertainer, that didn't need to leave his country, to get world wide attention...Jesse.
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07-25-2006, 07:45 AM
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Let's be clear on the subject here. Gordon Lightfoot doesn't hate the USA, I, dont hate the USA.
He was simply the first, Canadian entertainer, that didn't need to leave his country, to get world wide attention...Jesse.
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07-25-2006, 09:11 AM
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I'm sure no one thought you were implying that Lightfoot hates the US or that you do, Jesse. You just made a definitive statement ("Gord has never lived in the US") that turned out not to be so definitive - no biggie.
Touhy, no doubt the interviewer asked Gord the question because he was thinking of the other entertainers that Jesse pointed out who moved lock, stock and barrel to the US for the sole purpose of furthering their careers. I'm sorry that I too misunderstood what you were asking. because of your original wording, it appeared that you were asking Jesse-Joe why he never moved to the US.
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07-25-2006, 11:09 AM
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07-25-2006, 11:09 AM
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07-25-2006, 04:14 PM
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07-25-2006, 05:48 PM
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I admire GL for staying true to his roots, and I can understand the respect his fellow Canadians have for his doing so. Still, from a Yankees point of view, I can't help but wonder if Gordon had lived in the US if far more people would be benefitting from and influenced by his music today. Maybe it wouldn't have taken me so long to discover what a gifted artist he is?? However, I must admit if that had happened his sound might have changed, no doubt. So in that respect, I am glad he has chosen to stay in Canada. And if it took me longer to "find" him?? Well, better late than never I guess!
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07-25-2006, 06:06 PM
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Forgot to mention...
I was in Walmart Sunday and was perusing through the CD selection when I came across a 2 CD set: United Artists Collection. It was the only copy and the price was right so I snatched it up right away. After listening to the first disc I was elated. It's worth the price alone to hear Steel Rail Blues, I'm Not Sayin' and Ribbon of Darkness in their stripped down acoustic form, not to mention a whole slew of songs that had yet to fall upon my thirsty ears! Woo-hoo!
The songs that were re-recorded for Gord's Gold sound even better here, without the orchestral arrangements. And I am really liking "Oh Linda." What a song! I can't help but envy some of you who have known of this stuff for years and years.
I have owned this disc set for 2 days and can already see I will treasure it for years to come, along with the rest of my small but growing library.
Simply wonderful.
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07-25-2006, 06:37 PM
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It always frustrated me growing up that no one else around "here" knew or appreciated his music. I always thought of him and his music as something that just me and my family shared and I guess that probably made it even more magical and special to me. I grew up listening to him and just thought that everyone knew of him until I got to Jr. High School. I guess they all thought I was a freak! I was into Gord, Chet Atkins, Kingston Trio, Bo Diddley, Buddy Holly, Sergio Mendez, etc. Now I did get into the 80's rock and New Wave and still enjoy some of that "OLD" stuff. But no one has ever come close to Gord's style and Brilliance. I get burned out on most music after I hear it a few times. I have hundreds of cassettes and CDs from the late 70's, 80's and 90's and most I haven't touched in years. It's kinda strange now that I think about it, but I could (and do) listen to Gord all the time. I never get burned out on his sound. When I pull out an old Gord album its like hearing it for the first time. Ok, that reminds me...I havn't listend to Dream Street Rose in a while! I'm outta here.......
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08-02-2006, 01:31 PM
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Jennifer: I do envy you discovering new GL music ! I remember very well and written long bits on my first few albums, so I don't want to bore the majority. But I DO know what you mean, "like a kid in a candy store"-as I recall you saying as a relatively new listener.
One question, regarding "Oh Linda" - I like that song as well from "Lightfoot!" - the album. I am no jazz expert, but that song struck me as experimenting in jazz for GL. Question is, do you hear similarities between that song and the first 1/2 of "Make way for the Lady" ? - from the Dream Sreet Rose album ?
I love both songs, and recall reading once, if memory serves, that Gord spoke fondly of testing the waters hear and there of jazz being a little enjoyment of his, spoken of as a rainy day thing to sorta play with.
As a drummer way back, if not jazz, at least the kind of song you can play on the hi-hat with the classic " (pedal-closure)-click, (open & strike twice) tzz-tzz, click tzz-tzz, click tzz tzz ,etc, onward, as in here is "Mr. Cool" -an excerpt from GL's lyrics
O man I love that beat. Done best in the 50's-60's in a tux, martini in one hand, cig in the other, and that hi-hat beat in the background !
Not Gord's style per se, but a fun image with those two tunes, more so with Make Way...
I'd say he could have done a few more in that vane to the delight of many fans.
What do you think ?
geo Steve
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08-04-2006, 11:50 PM
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Hey Steve. How are ya?
Yes, somewhere along the way I recall reading on the net that Lightfoot did express some interest in jazz but I didn't know he had actually experimented. When I first heard the dissonant bass chords of Oh Linda punctuate the air I was immediately taken back to one of the jazz clubs in Chicago I used to enjoy. Groovy, man, groovy  Admittedly it took me off guard. But I found it to be a wonderful surprise and loved it almost immediately being a lover of jazz and blues to begin with. And his "dabbling" within this genre is pretty impressive. So a definite *yes* to your question, it would have been very interesting if he had produced a few more songs like this. He captured that jazz mystique quite well!
Unfortunately DSR is not yet a part of my collection but now I'm curious to hear this similarity you mention. Yes, I am much like the kid in a candy store, not sure which way to turn next!
Another one that has quickly become a favorite is Sixteen Miles (To Seven Lakes)
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08-05-2006, 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by lazymorning:
I get burned out on most music after I hear it a few times. I have hundreds of cassettes and CDs from the late 70's, 80's and 90's and most I haven't touched in years. It's kinda strange now that I think about it, but I could (and do) listen to Gord all the time. I never get burned out on his sound.
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I don't get burned out either. There have been days where I've played GL on the way to work, on my Walkman during the daily walk I take on my lunch break, and then again on the way home and throughout the evening when doing chores, walking my pooch, etc. I mean, is there a time or place where GL's music doesn't make that moment and experience just soooo much better? :D
Especially, for me, after a long cruddy day at the office; the difference between an equally long cruddy drive and a relaxed cruise home is often my Lightfoot CD's. After a few minutes into Don Quixote... Bad day...? What bad day???
Maybe thats why I don't tire of it easily, because it makes me feel happy. Hard to *not* like what makes you happy, don't you agree?
Of course one must cleanse the palate and venture out, enjoy other artists from time to time. But I always come moseyin' on back before long.
Peace
Jennifer
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08-05-2006, 05:35 AM
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Im the exact same way, as Im sure a good bunch of us are. In the past The "Dead Heads", as they were known, would follow The Grateful Dead around, simply worshiping them. It was hard to comprehend. But what I feel for Gordon Lightfoot, I do understand The dead heads now. We are Lightheads...
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