Please allow me to introduce myself

[TimmyB]

Hey Gordon Lightfoot Discussion Forums,

Please allow me to introduce myself... My name is Tim and I'm thirty years old, I work in Oakville and live in Hamilton, Ontario.

I've loved Gordon Lightfoot ever since I was a young boy. I've seen Lightfoot live three times on Saturday May 8, 1998 at Massey Hall, on Saturday November 13, 1999 at Massey Hall and at his first full gig back since his illness on Sunday November 28, 2004 at Hamilton Place.

I've seen a couple of artists cover Lightfoot's material live including The Tragically Hip at Another Roadside Attraction perform "Summer Side of Life" in 1995 and Bob Dylan perform "I'm Not Supposed to Care" in 1998.

I won't get too much into the many artists that I listen to as I'm not writing a book. I will say that Neil Young and Bob Dylan are my two favorite artists. I've seen Young 33 times and Dylan 22 times.

I look forward to interesting discussions with like minded people who love Gordon Lightfoot at this forum.

Take it easy, Tim

PS At the May 8, 1998 concert I couldn't figure out one of the songs that was performed that night, if anyone knows the song please let me know here.

Here's the setlist including the song I couldn't recognize.

Set I: 1. 14 Karat Gold
2. I'll Prove My Love
3. In My Fashion'
4. The Watchman's Gone
5. Sundown
6. On Susan's Floor
7. Don Quixote
8. Drifters
9. Ode to Big Blue
10. Ringneck Loon
11. Boathouse
12. The House You Live In
13. Carefree Highway
14. I Used to be a Country Singer
15. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Set II: 16. Waiting for You
17. Fading Away
18. Sit Down Young Stranger
19. Fine As Fine Can Be
20. Rainy Day People
21. Uncle Toad Said
22. ??? lyric- Feel Was Gone ???
23. A Painter Passing Through
24. Beautiful
25. Song for a Winter's Night
26. Early Morning Rain
27. Baby Step Back
28. Canadian Railroad Trilogy
Encore 1: 29. Blackberry Wine
Encore 2: 30. Old Dan's Records

Again please if anyone knows the song that was performed let me know. Thanks.

[joveski]

welcome along... and good to see you on dylanpool as well (this is froggie!)

the 8th may 98 setlist is listed as:

14 Karat Gold
I'll Prove My Love
In My Fashion
The Watchman's Gone
Sundown
Don Quixote
On Susan's Floor
Ode To Big Blue
Drifters
Ringneck Loon
Boathouse
Carefree Highway
The House You Live In
I Used To Be A Country Singer
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald
Waiting For You
Fading Away
Sit Down Young Stranger
Fine As Fine Can Be
Rainy Day People
Cherokee Bend
If You Could Read My Mind
A Painter Passing Through
Beautiful
Song For A Winter's Night
Early Morning Rain
Baby Step Back
Canadian Railroad Trilogy
Blackberry Wine
Restless

If You Could Read My Mind

[TimmyB]

Thanks I don't know why I didn't have that written down properly in 1998 as I obviously know "If You Could Read My Mind." It must have been dark where I wrote on my notepad.

Also that above set isn't completely accurate as Lightfoot did close the show on May 8, 1998 with "Old Dan's Records" not "Restless." And he did do "Uncle Toad Said" not "Cherokee Bend."

[SilverHeels]

Hi Tim, you are most welcome.
Give us your reaction to Gord's return to the stage.

[ELizabeth]

Welcome Tim. I'm new here myself. I live in suburban Washington D.C. and have been a GL fan since ... the late sixties. I guess that gives away something else about me. I have seen GL twice in concert in the D.C. area .. once he was unbelievable just too good to be true. Nice to meet you, Tim.

Welcome, Tim. You are in good company. All wonderful Lightfoot fans in here!!

Sheryl

[Borderstone]

Welcome aboard Timmy!
Julie your cruise director will give you the lowdown about how to act at the Captain's Table tonight!
Also,Gopher will show you to your room and give you pointers about how to become a congressman and work on a boat at the same time!
Seriously though,welcome. The more the merrier!

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." - Borderstone

[johnfowles]

quote:Originally posted by TimmyB:
Also that above set isn't completely accurate as Lightfoot did close the show on May 8, 1998 with "Old Dan's Records" not "Restless." And he did do "Uncle Toad Said" not "Cherokee Bend."
Welcome Timmy
In due course you will no doubt discover the many wonderful Lightfoot resources available to us "Net People" which includes
the other main "information' site run by pioneer Newsgroup** man Wayne Francis up there in PEI at:- http://www/lightfoot.ca
Wayne has an extensive listing of tour dates many with setlists including the one for your May 8th concert at:-
http://www.lightfoot.ca/980508.htm

I suspect that (Mende) Joveski who you might not yet know is one of three Melbourne residents who post from down under either
here or on the Newsgroup**.
Mende unless I am very mistaken most likely copied that set list from Wayne's site and I note that Wayne's listing includes
neither of the two encores you mentioned (although generaly speaking Wayne gets his facts right!!!) (and generally Gord always
does at least one encore... at one time he always prefaced it/them by saying "thank you we were coming back anyway" which always
cracked me up)
**
The Newsgroup alt.music.lightfoot is now viewable via the latest (beta) version of Google groups at (my notlong link):- http://newsgroup2.notlong.com
this is a link to the beta version as recently discovered by Cathy and I am pleased to say after posting a reply now says that your posting should be available "momentarily" and a test one showed up in a few minutes rather than the "3 to 9 hours" Google quotes for their original version for which my shorter URL link is:-
http://newsgroup.shorturl.com

Of course you can also if you take the trouble to set up Outlook Express use that for immediate viewing of your postings,or if you are with AOL use whatever access method they offer.
Finally Tim pity you had not been visiting here last week and seen about the most successful pre-concert gathering at Walts on Sunday. Never mind see you no doubt at Massey next year. Watch this space!!



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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

[joveski]

yep, i pasted it from www.lightfoot.ca

"has lost it as a performer"???????
http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve...601#9151081601

[BILLW]

quote:Originally posted by our same TimmyB?:
"has lost it as a performer"???????
http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=6706013552&f =3656025682&m=9151081601&r=9151081601#9151081601

?????????

[jj]

lol, i guess his review is the rebuttle to char's and should be called "NOT Gettin' It Done in Hamilton", eh?

"I'm going to pass Lightfoot by when he comes around again to Massey Hall or anywhere else for that matter. If he's opening for Bob Dylan or someone else that I don't miss I'll be happy to see him again or if he's apart of a folk festival that I happen to be at. But otherwise I will not be spending my money to have Lightfoot's name on a ticket.

I will continue to love Lightfoot's music, I just think he has lost it as a live performer."

now in partial agreement with TB, I will say that every one of us wants a GL concert to go forever (kinda like Dylan's quote about a GL song ) so I understand his disappointment

I only wish Gord would have bypassed the Wreck (even though it was stellar) and that would leave time for him to slide in both Bitter Green and On the High Seas on the Sunday night instead...my missing OTHS is like that fiesty Brit missing Christian Island...so yeah Bru, the Captain and I also had a mournful date after seeing Monday's setlist the other evening (once my brain recovered from Sunday's celebratory pints )

[charlene]

TimmyB needs to understand that these were his FIRST shows back since he was ill and he said in his Hamilton radio interview they would be an hour and ten minutes long. I am sure the sets at his concerts in the spring will be the usual length with an intermission of 20 minutes giving us 28 songs or more. I found the sound to be perfect-he's not Aerosmith! Every note and word was crystal clear and the odd time his voice caught I found it gave a "live" poignancy to the lyrics-especially in Harmony and Clouds of Loneliness. The depth and resonance in his voice was something not heard in such quantity as it was in Hamilton for a long time. While he passes at any other show there will be someone more than glad to get his ticket.
Jim Cuddy was there - he looked gorgeous as always. I wonder what he'll be doing and how he'll sound when he's 66???
Char
I still sing "on the t.v." in my head....

[This message has been edited by charlene (edited December 02, 2004).]

[BILLW]

quote:Originally posted by charlene:
TimmyB needs to understand that these were his FIRST shows back since he was ill and he said in his Hamilton radio interview they would be an hour and ten minutes long. I am sure the sets at his concerts in the spring will be the usual length with an intermission of 20 minutes giving us 28 songs or more. I found the sound to be perfect-he's not Aerosmith! Every note and word was crystal clear and the odd time his voice caught I found it gave a "live" poignancy to the lyrics-especially in Harmony and Clouds of Loneliness. The depth and resonance in his voice was something not heard in such quantity as it was in Hamilton for a long time. While he passes at any other show there will be someone more than glad to get his ticket.
Jim Cuddy was there - he looked gorgeous as always. I wonder what he'll be doing and how he'll sound when he's 66???
Char
I still sing "on the t.v." in my head....

[This message has been edited by charlene (edited December 02, 2004).]

Well said Char, I'll buy that ticket !

Bill

[johnfowles]

Earlier in this topic I was mislead into welcoming TimmyB to this forum
but having found and read his review of Sunday's performance I realy feel like taking it back
I realise that I am not alone in anticipating getting pleasure from a Lightfoot rendition of a telephone directory but well!!!
The URL link that TimmyB provided opened up an unhelpful page of gibberish but by simply reentering

http://discussions.bluerodeo.com
I somehow succeeded in finding the relevant posting by Timmy B on the blue rodeo UBB discussion board
and immediately found a distressing posting by "our" (not really "our") Same Timmy B at:-
http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve...601#9151081601

although what I did read there was definitely gibberish
as posted allegedly by one Timmy B a resident of the fair city of Hamilton
Anyway Timmy B whoever you are or think you are
whilst everybody is entitled to their own opinion... BUT
yours is in view of many other approving reviews
misguided and misleading to anybody who did not have the good fortune to experience the occasion first-hand
in reflection of concerts in 1998 and 1999 you said:-
"the crowds were dead quiet. Also the volume of music on stage was far too quiet as well"
neither comment is true of the three 1999 concerts I attended at Massey
you continued regarding Sunday's concert:
"Nothing has changed and it has only gotten worse."
Not true again there was quite a bit of audience noise even if the average age was rather more mature than you might possibly be and the sound was largely nigh on perfect (to my old ears anyway)
"But if he can't make a ninety minute show (I feel it is the unwritten rule that a headliner must at least hit), he shouldn't
be performing headlining concerts yet"
"I just think he has lost it as a live performer."
Now hang on a bloody minute
As Char said "These were his FIRST shows back since he was ill"(in 2002 not 2001)
and he had to start somewhere and the plan to have the Good Brothers as a support act gave Gord the opportunity to get his
confidence back with a shorter show and reassure himself that that he could now do ANY concert let alone his customary marathon two hour standard stints.On that basis the 72 minute shows were just about right IMHO , and whilst I agree with Jimmy that I'd have preferred to hear other songs in place of TWOTEF on both nights it was obviously a challenge as he obviously wanted to be assured that he now had regained the stamina to sing
one or other of his extended songs. I would say quite unequivocally that all in all it was a most realistic demonstration of his ability to resume his lifelong vocation for entertaining those who truly appreciate him
so there! Put that in your

and smoke it
because Gordon can definitely still smoke it
John Fowles


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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot



[This message has been edited by johnfowles (edited December 02, 2004).]

[brink]

Right on John!!!! Let him have it, again, suckered in by a non fan. A lot of the bands that I listened to in my life are back out and touring they certainly don't sound the same. I'm sure Timmy doesn't sound the same now as he did before he hit puberty (last week).

Gordon Lightfoot is the BEST, the SEXIEST, the most TALENTED singer/songwriter!! And at 66, he's DAMN GOOD!! He's HOT!! So there!!

Like John Said!!

And, did I mention, that if Gordon stood up on stage and merely recited the ALPHABET, I'd pay BIG BUCKS to be there!!



[This message has been edited by Sheryl Klein (edited December 05, 2004).]

[TheWatchman]

I wonder why little Timmy didn't post his true feelings about the concert as he did on the other forum...A Kenny Roger's song that I haven't heard in years keeps popping into my mind (Coward Of The County).

Eventhough Gord's voice is not what it used to be when HE WAS 30, it's still damn good and when one hears that voice, they know exactly who it is.

I've seen Gord about 12 times or so since 1993 and each time I saw him, the concerts could not have been better. The only let-down was when the concert was over. Seeing Gord live is waaaaaaay better then listening to his CD's.

[LSH]

Agreed, live is much better than the CDs. It's incredible to see Lightfoot live, enjoying the music and the crowd.
I guess we won't be hearing much more from TimmyB now that he's been "outed".

[SilverHeels]

quote:Originally posted by LSH:
Agreed, live is much better than the CDs. It's incredible to see Lightfoot live, enjoying the music and the crowd.
I guess we won't be hearing much more from TimmyB now that he's been "outed".

Like the rest of you, I made the error welcoming TimmyB to this forum. I have no desire to see him back again.
If anyone knows where/when Gordon Lightfoot will be performing the Telephone Directory, please book me a ticket.

[The Intended]

I love GL's music and have enjoyed his concerts tremendously. If and when he comes to my area, I will not miss the concert. It's fair to say he is my all-time favorite performer.

That being said, it disappoints me to see how those who frequent this Board treat anyone who falls short of literally worshipping the ground Gord walks on. Gordon Lightfoot himself would be disturbed to see such blind devotion... Of course he values the support of his fans. But I think any performer would be frightened by this kind of rabid loyalty. As a fellow fan, I certainly am.

Of course, there are the pranksters and losers who post messages designed to draw fire. But this post from "TimmyB" was inoffensive. He posted an honest review elsewhere and probably didn't post the same here because he didn't want to offend you all. Whether or not you and I agree with the opinions he expressed, he didn't deserve this kind of response from other GL fans.

When visitors to the Board can't feel comfortable expressing anything short of glowing praise for GL's every move, then our discussions become meaningless. Ignore the pranksters (that DMD3 kid was annoying). But try not to lynch those who just want to talk about Gordon Lightfoot and his art. Even if they're saying "I don't like it", at least that means people are paying attention to GL and his work is still relevant.

I, for one, hope Gord can continue performing for many years to come. He obviously loves it, and as a musician and GL fan myself, I can appreciate what he puts into each performance.

I have seen this kind of exchange on the message board before - someone says "Gord doesn't sound as good as he used to" and dozens of others descend upon it like angry bees. Why do you feel that you have to defend GL so vehemently? Doesn't his work speak for itself? You're not doing GL any favors by trying to stifle the critics, because they are buying his CDs and going to his concerts just like we are. Give them some rope, and they'll either pull themselves up or strangle themselves.

When I registered to post here last year, I had hoped to talk with others who genuinely appreciated and understood GL's work, past and present. Instead, what I've seen from a lot of folks here (not all, of course) is behavior more appropriate for screaming teeny-boppers and their cliques. That's a little over the top for me, and I'm guessing it would be a bit much for Gord too.

Many thanks to those here who have been kind, courteous and supportive. To the rest of you... Get help.

The Intended

[TheWatchman]

The Intended,

I understand what your saying but at the same time, I can see why most here were upset with his comments on the other board. I was more upset with what he posted here because he didn't write what he really meant, like he did on the other forum. Was he trying to bait us into an arguement? I don't know, but probably that was the case. Doesn't matter.

Corfid is a Lightfoot fan site. This is not the place to critisize Gord, and little Timmy was sure to do so before too long. Maybe you're missing something here? I don't know but I sure can see why Timmy went the way of the doe-doe bird.

These were Gord's first concerts since we almost lost him and we're a little protective of him. It's that simple. We value his music and this is a very exciting time for us because it looks like Gord will be back in full swing. At one point, we were unsure if he would even make it through that ordeal, much less get back up on stage.

I really don't think anybody here worships Lightfoot or the ground he walks on. We just love his music and support him. Just because you "stick up" for somebody hardly means that you worship them. Come on.

Actually, you're post is more likely to stir up trouble more so than what Timmy posted. What's you're point? Are you looking to upset people? Come down off that holier than thou horse of your's.



[This message has been edited by TheWatchman (edited December 03, 2004).]

[bjb]

Hey Mr/Ms Intended, you do make valid points, that's for sure.

Sometimes it sounds like a person making a critical comment is talking about Mr. Lightfoot as a commodity, like "I won't go back to that store because I didn't get enough value for my money".

Most people here love him exactly as is, and enjoy what he is doing right now as well as what he has done in the past.

This is usually a pretty friendly place

PS I guess it all boils down to expectations -- some people feel that if it didn't match their expectations, that means it was no good.



[This message has been edited by bjb (edited December 03, 2004).]

[joveski]

actually this guy has been posting that same review at other forums that i visit. i got sucked into welcoming him on both of them

He's what was posted it on a wilco board:
http://www.viachicago.org/forums/ind...showtopic=8036

he also put on a dylan one but i cant find the link.