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Old 04-16-2010, 12:56 AM   #1
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Default Audio: 1974-05-16 - Seattle, WA (Both Sets)

Gordon Lightfoot
Seattle Opera House
Seattle, Washington
May 16th, 1974 (1st Set 7pm)
Excellent Audience Recording

Gordon Lightfoot - Guitar, Vocals
Terry Clements - Guitar
Richard Haynes - Bass

1. High And Dry
2. Tennessee Stud
3. Sundown
4. Seven Island Suite
5. Alberta Bound
6. Band Introductions
7. Don Quixote
8. Christian Island
9. It's Worth Believin'
10. Beautiful
11. Partners
12. The Auctioneer
13. Divorce Country Style
14. If You Could Read My Mind
15. Cold On The Shoulder
16. Canadian Railroad Trilogy
17. Too Late For Prayin'
18. Wherefore And Why

http://rapidshare.com/files/376346935/GLSW741.rar

Gordon Lightfoot
Seattle Opera House
Seattle, Washington
May 16th, 1974 (2nd Set 10pm)
Excellent Audience Recording

Gordon Lightfoot - Guitar, Vocals
Terry Clements - Guitar
Richard Haynes - Bass

1. Too Late For Prayin'
2. Don Quixote
3. Affair On 8th Avenue
4. If You Could Read My Mind
5. High And Dry
6. Tennessee Stud
7. Sundown
8. Band Introductions
9. Beautiful
10. Partners
11. Christian Island
12. Cotton Jenny
13. The Auctioneer
14. Sit Down Young Stranger
15. Canadian Railroad Trilogy
16. Pony Man
17. Wherefore And Why

http://rapidshare.com/files/376362916/GLSW742.rar
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:38 PM   #2
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I'm hesitant to download from the winrar site..is it safe?
is it available in MP3 form anywhere?
I had noticed that Char in another thread had referred to the rapidshare.com site as the "winrar site" an understandable confusion when you realise that twice recently Tony G has discovered and given us links to download files with the ".rar" file extension, and the common program for dealing with rars is Winrar (just as the common program for dealing with zipfiles is Winzip
I have now looked into the question of rar and zip files in more detail in order to help anybody else who might be confused.
As usually happens when I set out to explain something I feel the urge write it in the style of a tutorial so that in due course I can use the text for another of my world famous tutorials (yes they are not unknown down under)
and will be illustrating my presentation with suitable screenshots.
cue for a timely plug for my just rewritten and uploaded
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As I understand it both zip and rar files are created by archiving utilities
which basically lightly compress a collection of files to save space and reduce the ownloading time
as a topical example I will use Tony's latest find (the two different concerts held in Seattle WA on May 16th 1974
The two rar files you can download are
1. the first (7PM) set
file GLSW741.rar 98MB which is a most worthwhile compression because
this "unrars" to 18 mp3s that total 145 MB plus 4 other files 141KB
and loading them into the freeware burning program burrrn.exe shows:- 

2 the second (10PM) set
file GLSW742.rar 98MB
unrars to 17 mp3s totalling 135MB plus 4 other files 117KB

Before I downloaded the two rar file I satisfied a long standing curiosity and found out why "rar" files are so named. a quick Google found as often happens a "wiki" at:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR where I read:-
"
RAR stands for Roshal ARchive. It is a non-documented archive file format that supports data compression, error recovery, and file spanning.[1] It was developed by a Russian software engineer, Eugene Roshal (the first letter of his surname contributing to the name of the archive format), and is currently licensed by win.rar GmbH"
the next thing to note is that both winzip and winrar are not free programs but shareware
the winzip website says it starts at $29.95
and winrar is "Free to try (40-day trial, some features disabled); $29.00 to buy"
whilst unrar for windows is $12.95
I even once went to the trouble and risk of searching for a winzip "crack" or illegal registration code, but as so often happens a more diligent googling revealed a superb altruistic piece of freeware that IMHO is vastly more user friendly than either winzip PK-unzip, winrar or unrar
This program is
jZip a free WinZip alternative


whose home pagedescribes it as
Create, open and extract Zip, TAR, GZip and 7-Zip. Open and extract from RAR and ISO. jZip is absolutely FREE for everybody, home and enterprise users jZip is an easy to use and fast archiving software jZip is based on proven7-Zip technology by Igor Pavlov
With jzip for me the best thing is (having previously with winzip had to break off unzipping to create or find a suitable location to unzip to)is that with jzip the right click menu contains a context jzip option meaning that simply right clicking on a zip or rar file's filename includes a specific jzip item that handily expands to include a choice of several most useful options, especially the automatic creation of a suitably entitled receiving folder in the same area as the downloaded rar file itself.brilliant


OK now you have the sets of mp3s what do you want to do with them?
Presumably play them either in Windows Media Player or a player of your choice
I prefer the original version of Musicmatch (not the vulgarised castrated and basrtardised Yahoo Player replacement and versions 9 and 10 are available as free downloads from
http://www.oldversion.com/MusicMatch-Jukebox.html
or of course burn to a CD.
Whilst most burning programs will happily burn direct from a set of mp3s.
I heartily recommend the freeware Express Burn from
http://www.nch.com.au/burn/index.html

which is a great program that proves that not all Australians are hooligans!!
which I found when trying to find a program to burn directly from FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) files
which I was delighted to find has a most user friendly built in facility to select
"Session At Once"
with the most useful option to select a variable pause or gap between tracks
and this can be set to zero. If you do that when the set of mp3s is from a concert the resulting CD will run continuously with barely perceptable "joins" whilst still having the provision of being able to select an individual track
 
 
 
 
 

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Old 04-16-2010, 11:11 PM   #3
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OK I have just played the stand-out track from the 7PM first set:-
the truly magnificent opus called "Seven lsland Suite" a.k.a "Shit Out Of Luck"!
I had previously heard an ROIO version made in London's Royal Albert Hall at about the same time and I must now compare these two relatively rare live performances . My initial impeession was that the male chlorus a.k.a Rick on the Seattle one is more pronounced than on the London one

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Old 04-16-2010, 11:15 PM   #4
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Hey John - if you have the mp3 of the concert send it to me!!
hurry!
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Old 04-17-2010, 05:07 AM   #5
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thx TG! ...7IS, thought i would never hear that...GL in top form this gig

pretty cool tutorial, john.....char, this is how it works on this Mac thing:

- click rapidshare for the free downloads of the rar files

- expand the rar files with a click - all mp3s will save to download folder

- open iTunes and choose Import from download folder...listen...burn...drink
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:23 AM   #6
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OK I have just played the stand-out track from the 7PM first set:-
the truly magnificent opus called "Seven lsland Suite" a.k.a "Shit Out Of Luck"!
I had previously heard an ROIO version made in London's Royal Albert Hall at about the same time and I must now compsre these two relatively rare live performances . My initial impeession was that the male chlorus a.k.a Rick on the Seattle one is more pronounced than on the London one
a sampler here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixMGgIk5Gog

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Old 04-17-2010, 08:02 AM   #7
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"WOW" That's Gordon Lightfoot at his best !

This has always been my favorite ~gl~ song. I always had a dream of seeing & hearing Gordon Lightfoot in concert do "Seven Island Suite" in the 70's but it never happened.

Thanks jj for that great sounding gem & the beautiful pics you added to make it (imo) a winning video.

You are talented my man !

"AWESOME"
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:02 AM   #8
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Thanks jj for that great sounding gem & the beautiful pics you added to make it (imo) a winning video.
ok, thx to TG for this treat, I just pulled off a track for those who were strugglin with the rar thingie....as far as a great vid, that is lol

i couldnt put up just audio so had to grab some pics to make a movie (slideshow i suppose)...i didnt even do proper transitions and that first pic is actually my airing my dirty laundry (which i what i do here most of the time anyhow )

those pics have nothing to do with the song but since you give them thumbs up i will leave as is but just smooth out transitions...YOU are THE man, jjo!

cheers...btw, also love ICHW...what does he mean when he talks of bringing back Heidi, is this around the time of the famous NFL TV controversy
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:10 PM   #9
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Thanks! I've listed to selected cuts so far but I ave a question, and a nagging suspicion I should know the answer. Who's Heidi? I think he says in a couple of places (definitely after Too Late for Prayin on set 2) please bring Heidi back. Anybody know the reference?? Local missing child? Hostage?

oops, sorry, just noticed the previous poster asked the same thing.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:21 PM   #10
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi ????
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:24 PM   #11
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Answered my own question, I think:

February 21 1974-Heidi Peterson missing from Seattle WA - 4 or 5 years old-remains found 11 months later in a garbage can near her home.

No one ever tried or convicted, though the police had a suspect in mind. Too much time passed, evidence no longer available.

See Ann Rule's book, Kiss Me Kill Me excerpt:

http://books.google.com/books?id=72W...page&q&f=false
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:00 PM   #12
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sad story - seems like a serial killer was terrorizing the area:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...+in+1974&hl=en
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:36 PM   #13
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Re the Heidi reference :

Was that story widely known nation-wide ? I don't recall hearing anything about it here in the southwest, but that was a long time ago.
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Did anyone have any luck downloading it? I did not
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Did anyone have any luck downloading it? I did not
I was going to send you a Private Message Wiliam but was told by corfid to go and urinste someplace else viz:-
"talbot10 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

If you are trying to send this message to multiple recipients, remove talbot10 from the recipient list and send the message again."
the gist of it would have been to give you advance notification that I intend posting here on Monday with details of my new "corfidshare" procedure to help those of you like your goodself and Char who found it not readily possible to obtsin the two sets of Seattle mp3s
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I was going to send you a Private Message Wiliam but was told by corfid to go and urinste someplace else viz:-
"talbot10 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

If you are trying to send this message to multiple recipients, remove talbot10 from the recipient list and send the message again."
the gist of it would have been to give you advance notification that I intend posting here on Monday with details of my new "corfidshare" procedure to help those of you like your goodself and Char who found it not readily possible to obtsin the two sets of Seattle mp3s
HI John Thank you kindly. I checked that out. i don't see that I choose not to receive private maessages. in any event, if this does not work can you contract me at "billhall@billhall.us". thanks pal
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Although I have satisfied myself on the feasibility of establishing a

file sharing scheme and am taking steps to ensure that Char and Bill can get their hands and ears on these mp3s, I have decided not to publish anything more about it here on this open public forum. instead you can send me a Private Message asking for access details of a web page that I have written about it and you can check for yourself that it works by looking at the image I have previously displayed in a test forum thread at:-
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showpost.p...4&postcount=48
and a hyperlink that can be right clicked to download an mp3 in my posting at:-

http://http://www.corfid.com/vbb/sho...0&postcount=49
Note that the two links above will take you to the individual postings within a thread not the last posted one. To get those links simply right click on the little posting number in the right hand top corner of the posting (in theabove two instances they are numbers 48 and 49 then select
"properties" from the right click menu and copy the address [URL)
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Thanks John,
Sharron helped me figure it out ..... I am sooooo stupid..... Wow this is Gord as i remember him as a kid... I remember those concerts from the early to mid seventies...no one like him...This is one of the best audiance recordings I have ever heard .. pure energy...bill
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Great little gem! Finally a decent recording of Partners, Divorce Country Style and Tennesee Stud! Thanks to whoever unearthed this :D
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Oh my, Gordon set the crowd a-buzzing with his alternate title for Divorce Country-Style.
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Hey John - if you have the mp3 of the concert send it to me!!
hurry!
Hi Char
I hope you read my recent posting. I said in part
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the website is far more interested in trapping the unwary like Char (who obviously believe everything they read on the internet) into believing that they must upgrade to premuium user to avoid seeing messages like I frequently did if I tried to get another download as soon as one download finished
"You have reached the limit for free users. Would you like more?"
This is in fact I think more to do with a silly and undefined "1 hour download limit" as one forum poster termed it because each time I saw that plea to upgrade I found that further downloads were possible if I was patient for as little as 10 minutes

So that is my answer to your request tor mp3s i.e. try again at rapidshare OK
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I've got some discs heading my way with the recordings on them...thanks!
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Another great concert recording that was available on rapidshare is the
superb 1969 Charlottetown Festival performance, the links I found were all to
http://rapidshare.com/files/15884890...__PEI_1969.zip
but that link now now leads you to this messsage:-
Due to a violation of our terms of use, the file has been removed from the server
 
To try to find a still working link I needed to research internet web pages referring to this great recording of so I googled for short "Gordon Lightfoot Char",always a dangerous action!!
I found three unexpected results
1 a forum at topix.com forum about Barry Harvey at:-
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/gordo...T3PMSD5E7OLHGE
which opened with a copy of Jesse-Joe's posting on corfid at
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showpost.p...1&postcount=54
and included postings from Char, Mike Pollina the Truck driver
from Phoenix AZ, Barry's daughter (name unknown but it starts with an "S") and his son Ryan
2 an Italian language website with artwork
http://rockrarecollectionfetish.blog...wn-summer.html






and 3 a page with some comments about Red Shea and a religion on:-
http://knockingjw.blogspot.com/
either scroll a long way down or quicker
after the page opens use the edit>find facility to search for Shea the section opens with this amusing observation
"Red, who hails from Saskatchewan, was Lightfoot’s lead guitarist through most of the 60’s. He also recorded with him during the 70s. Red is credited with much of Gord’s sound. You can find him on the early albums. He mainly played acoustic lead although I saw him try to play the kitchen sink once on Tommy Hunter."
Also this photograph

Gordon Lightfoot, Red Shea and John Stockfish going on stage in 1969
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I don't know if everyone has been able to successfully download these wonderful concerts (I couldn't) but thankfully, someone put them on the sugarmegs streaming website. Cheers to whoever did that! I'm really, really enjoying these recordings!

P.S. It was really cool to finally hear Partners and Divorce Country Style (I knew of these songs from reading old set lists- but had never actually heard them til now) Also nice to hear another live version of Fine As Fine Can Be (I like the Red Rocks version from '75, but I think the sound quality of the Seattle show from '75 is better- too many people talking around the recorder in the Red Rocks recording).

P.P.S. It would be nice if someone posted the above Charlottetown concert from '69 on sugarmegs as well (or even the Skip Weisman tapes) although I must say, I'll be enjoying these Seattle shows for some time to come...my thanks again to whomever was kind enough to share them.

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I don't know if everyone has been able to successfully download these wonderful concerts (I couldn't) but thankfully, someone put them on the sugarmegs streaming website. Cheers to whoever did that! I'm really, really enjoying these recordings!
P.P.S. It would be nice if someone posted the above Charlottetown concert from '69 on sugarmegs as well (or even the Skip Weisman tapes) although I must say, I'll be enjoying these Seattle shows for some time to come...my thanks again to whomever was kind enough to share them.
ERR UMM SOL
Whilst I was sorry to read that you were SOOL trying to download these concerts I do have to question how hard you tried.I can understand Char getting put off by being told
"You have reached the download limit for free-users. Would you like more?"
But really I spent quite a bit of time reserarching, writing and then posting a mini tutorial in my usual thorough fashion only to be so rudely derided by that hooligan/terrorist fellow from the wrong side of the tracks in North Sydney who had the cheek to liken my efforts to "the style of picture books" Hah!!
Could I therefore SOL refer you to my tutorial at:-

http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showpost.p...47&postcount=8
I have just reread my list of instructions and consider that they adequately and accurately detail the steps required to successfully download from rapidshare.
If you are still unable to make progress then please note the kind offer
in my penultimate (last but one) instruction in which I said
"Please send me a Private Message if I have not made myself crystal clear".
Regarding sugarmegs
There was quite a discussion back in 2007 on the large single wma format files as used by the basically streaming sugarmegs website
I suspect that most people would prefer individual track files rather than the one complete concert file that as Peter Bro 10 described in his posting to that discussion at:-
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showpost.p...7&postcount=26
he then had to labouriously split.
For myself I have as I recently described been delighted to find that burning a multi track concert CD can be made continuous (gapless) by using
the freeware program Express Burn withits Session At Once option and with a zero pause between tracks

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