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Old 04-09-2006, 08:13 PM   #1
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I think If we were to meet, we would have fun. I love to watch him play. I like the way he reacts with his band. There is so much more than just an entertainer, but a really shy and likeable guy. How I respect how he has remained the person he is. I hope that does not sound to far out there. I would like to be a friend of his and the old farts in his band. You Guys are the best.
I wish you were coming to Interlocken, Mi. They have a great camp ground good for partying. Not that you old guy still party.
Maybe some day
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:13 PM   #2
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I think If we were to meet, we would have fun. I love to watch him play. I like the way he reacts with his band. There is so much more than just an entertainer, but a really shy and likeable guy. How I respect how he has remained the person he is. I hope that does not sound to far out there. I would like to be a friend of his and the old farts in his band. You Guys are the best.
I wish you were coming to Interlocken, Mi. They have a great camp ground good for partying. Not that you old guy still party.
Maybe some day
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:42 PM   #3
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I would like to be a friend of his and the old farts in his band. You Guys are the best.
Not that you old guy still party.
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May I just say Mary,that for somebody who admits to being retired you are awfully and unnecessarily rude about old people. Funny I have never considered any of the band members as "old farts" Indeed I envy how young Mike and Barry are
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I would like to be a friend of his and the old farts in his band. You Guys are the best.
Not that you old guy still party.
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May I just say Mary,that for somebody who admits to being retired you are awfully and unnecessarily rude about old people. Funny I have never considered any of the band members as "old farts" Indeed I envy how young Mike and Barry are
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:00 PM   #5
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I can't see that mary's post is rude. The thrust of it is positive and a lazy term (that is debatably offensive), doesn't change
the context much IMO.
As someone who has a history/reputation for rudeness I would like to register my concern.
My quals to comment on said subject = Master of Rudeness with associate Diploma in Lavatory Humour. (Sydney Univ.)

Rudeness is generally considered less to be about the words used and more about the context the words are used in. In this example mary makes it clear she would love to meet and party with them - that is hardly derogatory. With this in mind, to me it softens the descriptors significantly.

I think if we are talking rude, we could consider jumping all over a first time poster not the friendliest , most encouraging welcome to the board either.
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:43 PM   #6
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agreed, Steve.
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:19 PM   #7
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Not quite OK Steve and Sheryl whist I respect your opinions and regret that in retrospect I did come over as less than welcoming to a newbie quite the opposite of my usual reaction I can fairly claim. However in thinking it over I really was offended that a newcomer should come in here and start accusing great musicians that I am pleased to call my friends of being "old farts" I suspect that Rick Haynes would readily agree that it is not an unfair description of him,after all I personsally saw Rick with Gord and Red in Montreal's Place Des Arts back in 1968. I suggest we let bygones be bygones and look forwards to more thought provoking topics initiated by our new member
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Not quite OK Steve and Sheryl whist I respect your opinions and regret that in retrospect I did come over as less than welcoming to a newbie quite the opposite of my usual reaction I can fairly claim. However in thinking it over I really was offended that a newcomer should come in here and start accusing great musicians that I am pleased to call my friends of being "old farts" I suspect that Rick Haynes would readily agree that it is not an unfair description of him,after all I personsally saw Rick with Gord and Red in Montreal's Place Des Arts back in 1968. I suggest we let bygones be bygones and look forwards to more thought provoking topics initiated by our new member
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Old 04-11-2006, 04:28 AM   #9
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'old farts' is not always used as an insult but can be considered a term of affection.
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Old 04-11-2006, 09:08 AM   #10
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I myself have been called an old fart. I choose to believe it was meant as a term of endearment. As an old fart that is my perogative.....lol
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Old 04-11-2006, 09:08 AM   #11
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I myself have been called an old fart. I choose to believe it was meant as a term of endearment. As an old fart that is my perogative.....lol
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:05 AM   #12
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Whilst I was still in England for many years I was a member of the Rotary Club of Sherborne
This august club chartered in 1936 and comprised quite a number of older stalwarts yes warts and all.
the club had traditionally always met in Mondays at lunchtime but by 1996 a growing number of us younger members were finding it difficult to make the lunchtime meeting obligation. After much discussion and canvassing it was decided to form a new "daughter" club to meet on Monday evenings. most of the younger members of the original club agreed to join and in 1997
we founded the Rotary Club of Sherborne castles the "castles" was obviously appended for differentiation and was in hono(u)r of the fact that Sherborne is blessed with not one but two Castles:-
the "Old" cstle in ruins

built by Roger de Caen between 1122 and 1139 and dismantled in 1645 after a siege by Fairfax during the English Civil War
and the "New" castle built by Sir Walter Raliegh (Raw-lee)

A Westland Apache licence built in the nearby town of Yeovil flying over the two castles
Inevitably the old club members came to be referred to as the OF's nominally meaning "old fellows" of course!
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Whilst I was still in England for many years I was a member of the Rotary Club of Sherborne
This august club chartered in 1936 and comprised quite a number of older stalwarts yes warts and all.
the club had traditionally always met in Mondays at lunchtime but by 1996 a growing number of us younger members were finding it difficult to make the lunchtime meeting obligation. After much discussion and canvassing it was decided to form a new "daughter" club to meet on Monday evenings. most of the younger members of the original club agreed to join and in 1997
we founded the Rotary Club of Sherborne castles the "castles" was obviously appended for differentiation and was in hono(u)r of the fact that Sherborne is blessed with not one but two Castles:-
the "Old" cstle in ruins

built by Roger de Caen between 1122 and 1139 and dismantled in 1645 after a siege by Fairfax during the English Civil War
and the "New" castle built by Sir Walter Raliegh (Raw-lee)

A Westland Apache licence built in the nearby town of Yeovil flying over the two castles
Inevitably the old club members came to be referred to as the OF's nominally meaning "old fellows" of course!
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:07 AM   #14
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As a devotee of Sir Walter Ralegh (his preferred spelling of his name), I love the photo of his castle. Altho I have visited it, I have never seen it from the air. Great shot.
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Old 04-11-2006, 04:40 PM   #15
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Welcome to the Newbie but I have to say,that term is really not appropriate in any sense.

Older people are to be respected and revered for they've experienced more in this life than those of us that are younger have. They can also offer a greater view on life itself.

While I'm glad you're a fellow Lightfoot fan Mary,in being one,you should show quite a bit more respect for Gordon's friends. They're not just his band after all. These are guys he's spent decades with,sharing the good and the bad.

First time anyone calls me by that term,they will regret it. ( No,no violence. )

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Old 04-11-2006, 05:23 PM   #16
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Non Australians (and especially Jedi Master Fowles), are likely to be interested in this as it pertains to the use of words that may or may not be considered to be offensive.

In Australia there were, (I think still are) active groups of "Old Bastards". These are groups of older men who get together for company , a beer , banter and fellowship , but primarily to raise money for charity.

When you first meet someone from the group the standard greeting if you are a member is "How are You Going You Old Bastard ? ".

Here is a few snippets on the subject.

Like mate, the term bastard itself is not distinctly Australian. What is, though, is our tendency to use it with considerably frequency, and to mean different things by it depending on the context. A characteristic distinctive of Australian English is the way we use words and phrases that could possibly be considered to be offensive in an inoffensive or even affectionate way.

This is remarkably relevant as it deals with the reaction in Toronto to what is not considered necessarily to be an offensive term.


For example, after a hard day's yakka (yakka is Aust. slang for work), in Toronto putting up tents in 1998, one of the authors waltzed over to a group of hard nosed working class Canadians who were enjoying a few beers of their own. He then asked matter of factly whether or not he could "buy a beer off you bastards". One Canadian in particular responded with a glare that would have caused Ned Kelly to think twice and said very slowly in a thick Newfoundland accent, "Them there are fighting words here in Canada". Luckily the situation was diffused, money changed hands, and beer was consumed. Needless to say, the author was glad to be back in Australia, where, within months of arrival, he was pleased to hear one middle aged bloke spot his mate on the street of a small town, break into a warm grin offer his hand and say loudly, "You've had a hair cut y'old bastard!". Great to be home!

The above sourced from: http://www.australianbeers.com/culture/bastard.htm

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Old 04-11-2006, 07:27 PM   #17
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Mr. Fowles,

While I truly admire your pursuit of knowledge and the desire to impart your discoveries, I do have a question :

Is there a possibility that the photos you post might first be put in a smaller format so that the reader may decide (if they are interested in the topic) whether or not to enlarge the image ?

To be honest, by the time my arthritic index finger scrolls though the image, I've forgotten why I was looking at it to begin with.

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Mr. Fowles,

While I truly admire your pursuit of knowledge and the desire to impart your discoveries, I do have a question :

Is there a possibility that the photos you post might first be put in a smaller format so that the reader may decide (if they are interested in the topic) whether or not to enlarge the image ?

To be honest, by the time my arthritic index finger scrolls though the image, I've forgotten why I was looking at it to begin with.

I solicit your trust that the following is true : I am not criticizing, merely suggesting.

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Old 04-11-2006, 07:41 PM   #19
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I'm sidin with Sir John on this one.When Your as old as dirt,I can see the lighthearted offense that may have been derived,and the likewise returned.Hammer on Sir John.......
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Quote:
Originally posted by &lt;Reminder&gt;:
Mr. Fowles,

While I truly admire your pursuit of knowledge and the desire to impart your discoveries, I do have a question :

Is there a possibility that the photos you post might first be put in a smaller format so that the reader may decide (if they are interested in the topic) whether or not to enlarge the image ?

To be honest, by the time my arthritic index finger scrolls though the image, I've forgotten why I was looking at it to begin with.

I solicit your trust that the following is true : I am not criticizing, merely suggesting.

RMD
Many thanks RMD for that reminder that in any sort of web page design including posting here it is always courteous to consider the potential difficulties faced by some of your intended viewers.
Your most constructive criticism is therefore accepted and I will:-
1.Endeavour to remember to make thumbnail picture links wherever possible
(sometimes I might well not have time to make a thumb or feel that showing the full sized image would be essential to make the narrative more understandable
and
2. Include that point in the tutorial I am working on (amongst many others) to cover picture resizing and corfid picture displaying
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(the next picture I hope to display wil be a replacement for my proposed 'corfid member's favourite lyrics selection" CD cover, where I anticipate that everybody would want to see the ful-sized picture straight away. The picture file I have used already is not of optimum fomat or clarity
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Quote:
Originally posted by &lt;Reminder&gt;:
Mr. Fowles,

While I truly admire your pursuit of knowledge and the desire to impart your discoveries, I do have a question :

Is there a possibility that the photos you post might first be put in a smaller format so that the reader may decide (if they are interested in the topic) whether or not to enlarge the image ?

To be honest, by the time my arthritic index finger scrolls though the image, I've forgotten why I was looking at it to begin with.

I solicit your trust that the following is true : I am not criticizing, merely suggesting.

RMD
Many thanks RMD for that reminder that in any sort of web page design including posting here it is always courteous to consider the potential difficulties faced by some of your intended viewers.
Your most constructive criticism is therefore accepted and I will:-
1.Endeavour to remember to make thumbnail picture links wherever possible
(sometimes I might well not have time to make a thumb or feel that showing the full sized image would be essential to make the narrative more understandable
and
2. Include that point in the tutorial I am working on (amongst many others) to cover picture resizing and corfid picture displaying
John Fowles
(the next picture I hope to display wil be a replacement for my proposed 'corfid member's favourite lyrics selection" CD cover, where I anticipate that everybody would want to see the ful-sized picture straight away. The picture file I have used already is not of optimum fomat or clarity
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If you go that route John,Me and Char will probably be missing out on things..I like it the way it is..
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I vote for Reminder's idea. I have dial up and it is hard to get large pictures to download, I have no choice but to have dial up. I have trouble getting Bill's recordings sometime because it freezes my computer up. Also the large pictures will do the same thing.
Brian - not to worry I will take you by the hand and help you with the thumbnails. Remember you are only 18 and you can learn.

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huh? what will I miss?...

goodness knows I don't want to miss anything at CORFID again.....

I have cable so this computer of mine is pretty fast...no probs for me opening big images but I know several other members do have probs.. something between thumbnail and humungous would probably work!
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huh? what will I miss?...

goodness knows I don't want to miss anything at CORFID again.....

I have cable so this computer of mine is pretty fast...no probs for me opening big images but I know several other members do have probs.. something between thumbnail and humungous would probably work!
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