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[RM]

I'll give SQ1 a shot....

Song : If You Need Me

[charlene]

the different colours/different fonts/sizes/instructions/clues/stories etc. are too hard to decipher for me..let alone try to figure out the lyric and song title..
sorry...good luck to the rest of you tho..
i have a headache.

[geodeticman.5]

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Hey guys, here is our current status, after a question for you all.....
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1st: A question for all of you below; can I have your opinion ?

If you wish to skip the discussion of the question, I'll bottom line it for you here and right now: If you knew that so far we've had a player mention that the font colors, font choices, font sizes, etc (like the Yellow clue numbers, red,white,and blue Congratulations !, purple story clues, etc) were giving the player visual distress and perhaps a headache, would you vote to change format to default everything, as I have done here in this as a courtesy and test run to the player it distressed visually ? So if you wish to skip the longer explanation of the same basic elements of the above to consider in more depth, just go down to the bar-line where it says'OK Back to biz'. And please express you opinion ! Thanks !


More in-depth considerations worth noting:I've been trying to use the colors/fonts/sizes as a utility. Typically- yellow/gold - you know that color means clue numbers and essential information, correct song, big X, etc. Blue have typically been extranneous notes, and last set of medium blue, deliberately to evoke thoughts of water,were actually part of the story 2nd clue that helped Dave from Melbourne figure out the 'River of Light' story clue. Similarly, purple was used in that same post to help as 2nd clue successfully to help formerlyLavendar (by coincidence) to figure out the song in 2nd clue story-format on 'Approaching Lavender'.

So, I'd say the last 3 pages have been an inordinate amount of color. We've had one person speak of of it (color/font/size etc variations) being distressing visually, which I can certainly understand ! How about the rest of you ? - as we have approached this game as democratically as possible.

I've also pretty consistently used the same color seperately for your names, eg Ron your name is always Red; Joveski you can similarly find comments or replies to you with your name in green, etc for everyone of the regular players. That has always felt like a courtesy extended to each of you. Admittedly, a little tiny one....lol .Having said that, its been a utility as intended, for me, but I need more input like one player's helpful info on eye fatigue/headache with color/font/size et al. I'm inclined to change all to default fonts, no color, etc., but am curious how most of you like/not/indifferent feel about it. Not a crucial question in the big path of life.lol... but maybe a kindness to show.

So, for now, what of color/font/size at least as identifers of type of info i.e. yellow clues & bottom-line info, consistent color to find your name, etc., 'FOR & AGIN" comments would be really appreciated. Until I have more input to go by, I'll error on the safe/considerate side for now, until I hear from say more than half of the regulars, or a trend appears if things are slow.... I'll (til then) use default on everything, except maybe italics and/or bold as would be common in other threads. Default for now, as in 'de fault of de map-guy' - me ! ...lol...

I am accustomed to using font utilities to identify info classes on maps I make. I have seen cartographers fired over A: easily a hundred hours of math in abstracting field notes; then after all that done impeccably,B: forget the target audience was a '101 class'-size semi-auditorium-sized 'quiem' room, and they made the map title and legend/key useful for reading at 1 -3 feet away ! Well this isn't mapping here, but courtesy is allways correct, which is what I want to ensure with your help.I definately do not want to lose a valued player (which is everybody!) to something as easy to correct as color/font/& font size usage.

Is it bothering you guys ? I never thought of that; readability, yes, and a method to the madness, yes, but discourteously I never thought to ask if it was hard on anyone. -sigh- I can tell you what I see when I look over the last few pages... setting aside the inordinate amount of color in the '2nd clues' for two potential dead-horses where color helped, I'd have to say there are only about 5 colors that read well against the rather dark blue skin of corfid. What I did see mostly was that, given a readable contrast on color choice, what I found the most difficult/eyestraining was font selection. I'm given to certain types of info in 'Comic sans MS' and 'Book Antiqua' to distinguish the info class with a number of colors, sort of in the same way we use italics at times. I did find 'Book Antiqua' was hard to read unless I went from default size of 2, changed to 3. And big, happy fonts were 'signs of success', or new clues etc. Its not gonna bust my chops either way ..lol... so waddya think ?

OK back to biz.

If you wanna really rip into me..lol... please PM me. lol Thanks!

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Current status as of 2:30 am 12/16:

Q236 .... road signs .... Joveski got it with 'Bells of the evening'

Q237 .... of a taxi .... Joveski got it with'Betty Called Me In'

Q238 ....motor.... Remains unanswered. 2nd clue is: not allowed over in USA

Q239 ....or swim jj got it with 'You'll Still Be Needing Me'

Q240 ....not a pretty....Joveski got it again ! with: 'Uncle Toad Said''

Q241 ..... overhead formerlyLavender got it with: 'Brave Mountaineers'

Q242 ....in my shoes Sorry Mende, close..Remains Unanswered 2nd Clue:'where's my carbide lamp?

Q243 To understand .... Remains Unanswered 2nd Clue: 'I know what they said, but...'

Q244 Pay any dues .... Remains Unanswered. 2nd Clue Who or what would know ?
Q245 ....old Mexico 2nd Clue: Goodby

SQ1 Story clue - He still sort of loves her, but wants her to be happy moreso than necessarily to love him, if she needs him at a certain time of day, he'll be there for her, but if for any reason she wants him to leave, he'll be on a train outta there. - Ron answered with 'If You Need Me' . .......-Very close, and good guess, Ron. I'd consider it as a valid ambig IF it met all the criteria stated, but the most tangible piece of info was the train, and it appears in the lyrics of the intended song. Were it not for that, I'd go with your answer....interesting how Lightfoot has recurrent themes, in different ways, that make each song seem entirely new ! Sorry Ron, but good try.


OK there she be. 6 to go including the Unanswered, and the attempts that were not yet correct. Congratulations to the first round !

[charlene]

No need for anyone to rip into you Steve. I, personally find all the colours/font sizes/different fonts etc. hard to read and follow/understand whether they are to indicate replies to specific people or not.
That's just me.

I find it easier to follow with everything white on blue and perhaps when the puzzle is solved a simple change in colour to indicate it has been solved..notifications in BOLD/same colour are not jarring. So many colours/text changes/sizes etc. in such a lot of text is too much for me tho. Trying to backtrack to find the clue was too much for this old brain..

The post you just sent thru was readable and understandable and my eyes were not darting all over the text while I tried to understand what you were saying..

If no one else finds it difficult then keep on keepin' on. No need to belabour it. It's a great game and when I've been able to play it's been fun.


Now I will try to solve one of the remaining puzzles..

[RM]

Originally Posted by geodeticman.5

So, I'd say the last 3 pages have been an inordinate amount of color. We've had one person speak of of it (color/font/size etc variations) being distressing visually, which I can certainly understand ! How about the rest of you ?

I think a bit more judicious use of the fonts/colors would be in order. Too much can be bewildering (In fact, that's the excuse I'm using for missing SQ1). Maybe limit the use of colors to denote the "X" for clues that have been solved. That sort of thing.

[charlene]

yep - that's what I've been..bewildered..along with bedazzled, befuddled and bewitched..
lol

[Dave, Melbourne,Australia]

Q244: Only Love Would Know: "Pay any dues at the expense of her pride".
Knew the lyrics were from a song in the middle of the Waiting For You album. Just had to remember which one of out of a couple I had in mind.

[geodeticman.5]

Thank you Char and Ron for the well-considered answers.

Char, I definately understand and sympathize, I'm just used to it from my line, but you and Ron put it in fine courteous perspective for me, I do care, and thats why I gave it the courtesy of so much consideration and thought - that was the reason for what appeared too much- (and as I read it now, it is too long lol...) Char - the 'really' rip into me in a PM was simply joking - its cool !

oh!, Ron - did you mean i made the white font status board hard to see my reply to your SQ1 ? - Or the original clue in color for it ? I'll be happy to modify.... - just need to know what to modify - the color is history, save for special usage only - but the white - is it OK on the status list above to read ? - Thanks !

Guys no worries no belabour - I'll be happy to do all the rest in white, occassional BOLD and italics, and rare-spare color even as you say - no sweat ! I'll change the template prog, easy... and everbuddy'll be happy at Christmas !

You know what else needs modifying, dots on clues excepted, is the use of ......'s in general text. I caught myself doing it in a letter I was writing last night ! as in, Dear Margaret, it was a long fall, then BOOM, Winter is here....... aaaarrrggh lol

This affable response here and modifications, and perhaps the ?record-breaking? number of 'views' - that has gotta be good for an 'atta boy' from you Char! You know we get bruised and need your care ! lol - j/k

OK, as Dad used to say, onwards McDuff, Thank you Ron and Char, and, looks like we allready have a 'lets get on with the game' from Dave down t' Melbourne ! Thank you Sir, for tossing the ball back in..... I'll reply next post.

OK guys and gals, back to BIZ er... fun !

[geodeticman.5]

Char ! I didn't know I still had it in me ! - 'bewitched..' ? lol j/k

[charlene]

ya know until someone mentions number of views etc. i don't even notice those numbers on the page.
lol
and if I had to change the colour of this font or the actual font or size I'd be up S..t Creek without a paddle..
so - yep, this is a hell of a 'bewitching' thread!!

[geodeticman.5]

Dave, from Melbourne,Australia responded with the following:

Clue #Q244: Song name submitted: Only Love Would Know: Right!
Lyrics submitted: "Pay any dues at the expense of her pride". -Check

Knew the lyrics were from a song in the middle of the Waiting For You album. Just had to remember which one of out of a couple I had in mind.
12-16-2008 11:59 AM

Congrats Dave, you got 'er .

I'm also wondering if we should lift the informal rule of not looking in Lightfoot.ca - Lyrics/Chords, especially appropriate for older songs, Pre c '65, -pre UA period, thoughts ? All songs I do now are under 'Lyrics and Chords'. I'd say go for it, unless it takes the fun out of it for you ! I think most of us have 'sneaked a peak', any way...lol Or, lift the lyrics patch. ?? Why not both at your own discression, whatever is most fun for you. Any imput is appreciated.

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Current status as of 7:45 PM Tueday,12/16:

Q236 .... road signs .... Joveski got it with 'Bells of the evening'

Q237 .... of a taxi .... Joveski got it with'Betty Called Me In'

Q238 ....motor.... Remains unanswered. 2nd clue is: not allowed over in USA, on some radio stations.

Q239 ....or swim jj got it with 'You'll Still Be Needing Me'

Q240 ....not a pretty....Joveski got it again ! with: 'Uncle Toad Said''

Q241 ..... overhead formerlyLavender got it with: 'Brave Mountaineers'

Q242 ....in my shoes Sorry Mende, close..Remains Unanswered 2nd Clue:'where's my carbide lamp?

Q243 To understand .... Remains Unanswered 2nd Clue: 'I know what they said, but...'

Q244 Pay any dues .... Dave of Melbourne got it ! - 'Only Love Would Know'

Q245 ....old Mexico 2nd Clue: Goodby 3rd: goodby,goodby in 'old Mexico' - Remains Unanswered -I should have called it a rarity, but was unsure because its listed in Lighfoot.ca, under regular 'Lyrics and Chords'

SQ1 Story clue - Remains unsolved 2nd clue Solve it by rhyme or reason . And -..... in shades of twilight 1st clue: He still sort of loves her, but wants her to be happy moreso than necessarily love him, if she needs him at a certain time of day , he'll be there for her, but if for any reason she wants him to leave, he'll be on a train outta there. -[B] Ron gave a good crack at it with
'If You Need Me' but... its got to have a train in it..... see 2nd clue(s)

NOTE: -The first two story clues went well enough, but I can see great ambiguity in story clues; less fun maybe. I'll drop 'em if you guys want to ?

~all songs by Gordon Lightfoot except Q245: by 'Lightfoot & Ruth Hash'

OK there she be. 5 to go including the story clue Congratulations to the 2nd round !

[geodeticman.5]

Originally Posted by charlene

ya know until someone mentions number of views etc. i don't even notice those numbers on the page.
lol
and if I had to change the colour of this font or the actual font or size I'd be up S..t Creek without a paddle..
so - yep, this is a hell of a 'bewitching' thread!!

Lol Char - I hear ya. Rest assured. I am... most conservative with all the toys in the menu now ! - I think it was Ron that raised the Q maybe a page back or so that he wondered it had the most number of views when it was 8,000 and something. Casual observation, was all. No matter. Thanks, Char

BTW - To mappers, Sh88 Creek is a real thing, and so is B.F. Egypt !...lol, no offense intended, anyone

[geodeticman.5]

Hi guys - its a busy time of year for many of us; Holiday preperations, everyone is in step with the sesason

Here is a little dittie, an 'homage' to Circle of Steel, which we have played allready. A couple times lol.... . Thanks to Gordon Lightfoot for the beautiful melody and lyrics I've liberally modified as a thank you for fun game play.

'Deck the Halls' is the Song they Sang
In this thread right here where the colors have changed
White fonts now glittering down like the snow
A time ya' know
Now is the time where people can read
Fonst, and sizes, advice Steve surely did heed
Ease of reading will now surely abound
And the kindest players that can usually be found
Some great ideas came from Char and Ron Meason
So now Everybody's in step with the season. -

-eesh - that's why Gord is a singer/sonwriter, and I'm NOT ...lol
- beautiful song though; that 'Circle of Steel' ~gl (the real one).

Unless people would like different, changes have been requested, and some I've aded to make more elbow room for enjoyment include:

1. Only very spare use of color, occasional bold and italics, and default font size is now de rigeur for ease on the eyes of many to see white, I hear

2. I've suggested lifting what at times are enjoyable, and at times I know frustrating - the patches of lyrics 'rule'. I'm lifting that unless anyone differs, no more lyrics needed - just the song name to win it, ambig or 'spot on' !

3. Looking in lightfoot.ca, which I think we've all done a time or 20 lol..., is now totally at your own discression, whatever is most fun. I think this is especially important if we are going to find songs from the 'Two Tones', or 'Early Lightfoot', any really - but the Chateau and Two Tones many have not heard at all, save for maybe two on Songbook: disc 1. Let's use any resource to look up ones that don't come to mind. I think one good thing came of that 'rule' while it lasted - many posted that it 'spurred them to listen to Lightfoot's body of work in a whole new way' - to 'pump up' for the game, or otherwise. And those who wrote in, as have I , spoke of learning an even dreper respect for, and recoognition of recurrent themes, phrases, illiteration, frquently used words or whol phrases, its been a very 'learning; experience for me.
4. Its been suggested we retain the Yellow Big- X, for example, in the status board, which above is current, but all in white for a test run. 5 remain unanswered, and I will not be too quick to comment interest is flagging- because its the Holidays, and we are all busy. I'll take 'em as they come. If interest does truly flag for you, as opposed to time available; please let me know; or vice-versa 'keep-on keepin-on' if thats the case, but no hurry.

5 One more question on the table - the story clues - by definition, a great case of what may very well be too vague or certainly ambiguous, what with Gord's recurrent themes in some cases. I've posted 2nd and 3rd clues on SQ1 above, and 2nd clues for all unsolved Q* questions.

6. - would be any suggestions you guys have further. Meanwhile, with people aout of town, flurrying to get work done to a clean desk before they call it Holiday Vacation, I wouldn't expect too many replies coming in. If any one thing, your thoughts are especially appreciated right now to determine if we are rounding a bend or a fork in the road in the game...... it may even be petering out from a tertiary road to a logging road or dirt track..lol... I have a fondness for this game, I still can't believe what started on a lark, borrowing from other quiz formats past and present to be sure, grew to such a long-running term of fun (I hope for you..surely for me !). I can only hope its still fun. If we call it done going into the New Year, thats cool, its been a fun ride with you all, it really has. The thread would die happy. Will see 'which way the four winds blow' - I', with ya either way. Thanks, and"

Happy Holidays

I just got my tree up tonight. If play does not resume until the Holidays are over, no worries, I won't over-react with concern; conversely if you do knock some off day by day - I'll post-em !

[RM]

Originally Posted by geodeticman.5

Hi guys - its a busy time of year for many of us; Holiday preperations, everyone is in step with the sesason

Here is a little dittie, an 'homage' to Circle of Steel

Some great ideas came from Char and Ron Meason
So now Everybody's in step with the season. -

That would be fine and dandy except my last name is pronounced Mason. The 'e' is silent. Other examples of names/words with silent e's are Ronald Reagan, Shea Stadium, and great. I've struggled with this my entire life. It's a curse of some sort.

I'm having a hard time with the latest quizzers.

[RM]

Q242

Song : Boss Man

Lyric :

Holes in my pockets, holes in my shoes

[geodeticman.5]

Originally Posted by RM

That would be fine and dandy except my last name is pronounced Mason. The 'e' is silent. Other examples of names/words with silent e's are Ronald Reagan, Shea Stadium, and great. I've struggled with this my entire life. It's a curse of some sort.

I'm having a hard time with the latest quizzers.

Sorry about the name mispronunciation, Ron. You were almost immortalized in song, er...not quite, but I blew it on your last name. Such are the limits of the written word for the poorly vetted in researching such basics as promunciation ! Thankfully by letting me know, I will put your name to rights in context if I can, if not you'll know I tried. Then all I'll have to do is rhyming, illiteration, content, just about everything is substandard, except one thing, now that I think about it, make it two, Char's nickname, and the beautiful song it came from.

Maybe I should study Sun Tzu and his Art of War, or better yet, the non-combative, serenity of T'ai Chi, and find my center, balanced T'ai/Chi, (however, I think my CG is in my spare tire at my belly..lol..a least follow the Zen path of the leaf, floating in water....and do Haiku instead ! All I remember from elementary school on Haiku is that I need 17 syllables, that don't rhyme, or even resemble poetry, but does have meaning, or imagery. I will become one, with my Chi ! and all of that Zen, er....sumpin' like that..

Also, in what way are you having a hard time with the current (list of 11) quizzer clues, Ron ? I would appreciate any advice as to how to make the quizzers more fun, primarily, but please do tell me in what way, assuming other than just they are too hard ? The previous 10 were solved- all in a bit less than 6 hours, as I recall, and I did consciously make these, save for a few, a bit harder, to attempt to restore balance of too easy/too hard.

Is that what you are speaking of, Ron ? I'll be hapy to change that in the next list, and give some strong clues to add to the 2nd clues up in the current list. Its cool- fire away; I won't take offense. Any and all constructive criticism is welcome, despite some thin sklin I have exhibited over the last eight months; but without unneccessary explanation, I think most of you understand where it came from.

The Holiday Poem, well, shall we say I was not born to be a wandering minstrel-cum-singer/songwriter, or poet ! I'm running out of things to work with here....lol . No realy, I am sorry for the mispronunciation, or more precisely, the assumption thereof by virtue of assuming your name to rhyme ! I'll find a way to re-write it !

And what-with the life-long mispronunciation you've endured, sounds exactly like the kind of flub I stick my foot in mouth over; please pardon my presumtion of the way it is said. Even a sore spot for you to boot ! Oh man, I am going down in flames here. Can you forgive this ole' mapper who has grown weary and not-so-wise, I feel much amazed, but I still do have a few good tales to unwind...sometime, in some thread..., I think I heard it stir.....lol.

Thank you for letting me know, Ron. "Onward, McDuff !", as my Dad used to say to me on the trail up to the climb; at around 54 - he could out-hike/out-climb me at 19 ! What a guy.... and I worked out 3-4x/week, and had gone to a year long Climbing School ! And he said with regard to what was apparently some older adage that I've even heard in movies and read in books a few times - "Work-out ? Jog ? What 'working-out' - I'm an Engineer ! I don't have time or the inclination to 'work -out' !

Ron, you'd have liked him. A man of few words; when he did speak, anyone with one bit of sense listened.

A man of sound wind and limb, and a razor-sharp, virtually unparalleled mind; a solid gold heart, and a life paradigm of unwavering ethics, compassion, dedication, and self-discipline. For those reasons and more, it was a very, very hard thing to watch him physically succumb to Parkinson's as he did, and watch what remained throughout - a magnificent man, succumb physically and verbally to Parkinson's. But, I never saw even one iota of the 'spark' flag in those shining eyes full of whit and wisdom, a veritable genius in his own right.

He retained his strength in the form of his admirable values and no matter what he perceived as the wavering mores of the times, he remained unflappable, and strong in his own sterling values and ethics; stolid, in the best sense of the word - dedication as a truly magnificent gignere. As we all will in verying amounts and ways, I truly will miss two of the closest people in my life this Christmas. Having allready gone badly off-thread on a non-sequiter from 'onward, McDuff' to a mini homage to Dad; I'll not make the mistake and engage in the poor taste of further excess and impertinance here on my most obvious loss right now, for this Christmas, unless it comes up in context in another post, likely in another thread, if that, to truly serve what needs to be said, and is still forming in my mind.

I'll fix'er Ron. Thanks for letting me know kindly as you did. And if you made it this far; thank you for kindly reading such thoughts as I ought keep to myself, at least in corfid. We all have enough to deal with !

I'll address Q242 in a seperate post here, to at least give the possible impression of not babblibng to much in one thread..... hah! he says.

[geodeticman.5]

Originally Posted by RM

Q242

Song : Boss Man

Lyric :

Holes in my pockets, holes in my shoes

OK Ron - I'll keep this one short...and short.
Clue: Q242 - .... in my shoes

Ron's reply to song: Boss Man - ~gl Correct ! I wonder of you got it from the first or 2nd clue ? - the carbide lamp I figured would give it away as a miner's song for sure. If a person ever came across or read of such older brass doo-dads as a carbide-lamp, add water to carbide pellets, and poof - there go burnable gasses.

Mende won Silver on this one, as it did sound like 'Carefree Highway' in clue one, 'cept for down to my shoes versus in my shoes.... I'd of guessed the same one off the top of my head, I think !


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Current status as of 12:45 AM Friday,12/19:

Q236 .... road signs .... Joveski got it with 'Bells of the evening'

Q237 .... of a taxi .... Joveski got it with'Betty Called Me In'

Q238 ....motor.... Remains unanswered. 2nd clue is: not allowed over in USA, on some radio stations.

Q239 ....or swim jj got it with 'You'll Still Be Needing Me'

Q240 ....not a pretty....Joveski got it again ! with: 'Uncle Toad Said''

Q241 ..... overhead formerlyLavender got it with: 'Brave Mountaineers'

Q242 ....in my shoes 2nd Clue:'where's my carbide lamp?- Ron got it with 'Boss Man'. Congrats, Ron.

Q243 To understand .... Remains Unanswered 2nd Clue: 'I know what they said, but...'

Q244 Pay any dues .... Dave of Melbourne got it ! - 'Only Love Would Know'

Q245 ....old Mexico 2nd Clue: Goodby 3rd: goodby,goodby in 'old Mexico' - Remains Unanswered -I should have called it a rarity, but was unsure because its listed in Lighfoot.ca, under regular 'Lyrics and Chords'

SQ1 Story clue - Remains unsolved 2nd clue Solve it by rhyme or reason . And -..... in shades of twilight 1st clue: He still sort of loves her, but wants her to be happy moreso than necessarily love him, if she needs him at a certain time of day , he'll be there for her, but if for any reason she wants him to leave, he'll be on a train outta there. - Ron gave a good crack at it with
'If You Need Me' but... its got to have a train in it..... see 2nd clue(s)

NOTE: -The first two story clues went well enough, but I can see great ambiguity in story clues; less fun maybe. I'll drop 'em if you guys want to ?

~all songs by Gordon Lightfoot except Q245: by 'Lightfoot & Ruth Hash'

OK there she be. Just 4 to go including the story clue Congratulations on the 3rd round !

[RM]

Originally Posted by geodeticman.5

Sorry about the name mispronunciation, Ron.

No apology necessary. Some parts of the Meason clan pronounce it 'Meeson', and others 'Mason'. I come from the latter. A typical call to customer support goes like this :

Representative : "Your last name " ?

Me: "Mason, spelled M-E-A-S-O-N"

Representative : "Ok Mr. Meeson, what can I help you with" ?

It's rather humorous.

And yes, the carbide lamp clue did help. Don't change a thing, the game is fine as is.

[jj]

> hi steave,


Q238 ....motor.... Remains unanswered. 2nd clue is: not allowed over in USA, on some radio stations.

> motor city madness > Black Day in July


Q243 To understand

> try to understand the feelings that you lack > IYCYMM



Q245 ....old Mexico 2nd Clue: Goodby 3rd: goodby,goodby in 'old Mexico' - Remains Unanswered -I should have called it a rarity, but was unsure because its listed in Lighfoot.ca, under regular 'Lyrics and Chords'

> ok, toughie, but Hashed it out by going to that chord section to sift and came across it in the first song listed: > Adios, Adios



note: for most technical support calls (satellite, internet, Bell phone, new gadget support, etc) I actually have to spell JONES...then when I receive follow up paperwork it's typically spelled JOHNS...either I mumble or i suppose these folks have overapplied the silent E rule

[geodeticman.5]

Originally Posted by RM

No apology necessary. Some parts of the Meason clan pronounce it 'Meeson', and others 'Mason'. I come from the latter. A typical call to customer support goes like this :
Representative : "Your last name " ?
Me: "Mason, spelled M-E-A-S-O-N"
Representative : "Ok Mr. Meeson, what can I help you with" ?
It's rather humorous.
And yes, the carbide lamp clue did help. Don't change a thing, the game is fine as is.

..lol Ron, and jj, I sympathize, and BTW, hope your Holidays were enjoyable.

Last time I called a tech representative was a few weeks back for my backup cell phone, a pay-as-you-go LG throw-away job (what has society come to ?). I wanted to re-enable its service, as they have a neat little scam/incentive that mandates that you buy a minutes card every 60 days, whether you use it or not. As a backup, I didn't. So I call, and I get what I can only guess is a Polynesian thick dialect broken english that one could not possibly interpret, though she was very nice. I tried calling twice, and both times I could not understand. Not gonna sell many minutes cards that way. Thats the same number to set up a new throw-away phone, too. Not to bright. Cost effective often seems to have the 'effective' part forgotten.

I've heard many 'call centers' for misc. galore to our continent are all over the world, and some, I found, soliciting Allstate premium motor club to me, called a few times from Nova Scotia. I guessed and got lucky - because she said it was 3 hours later than my mtn. std time location. I recalled very few Continental North America locations to be in that Atlantic zone, except for as I recalled the Maritime Provinces. I took a stab at it, and asked if she was from Nova Scotia, the first to come to mind, and bingo. I had no trouble understanding her of course.

And they play hell with Dunbar, my name. invariably - OK Mr. DuMbar.....lol

Whats a guy gonna do ?

sounds like jj has the same problem too lol..... how can you get Jones wrong ?

[geodeticman.5]

Originally Posted by jj

> hi steave,
Q238 ....motor.... Remains unanswered. 2nd clue is: not allowed over in USA, on some radio stations.
> motor city madness > Black Day in July
Q243 To understand
> try to understand the feelings that you lack > IYCYMM
Q245 ....old Mexico 2nd Clue: Goodby 3rd: goodby,goodby in 'old Mexico' - Remains Unanswered -I should have called it a rarity, but was unsure because its listed in Lighfoot.ca, under regular 'Lyrics and Chords'
> ok, toughie, but Hashed it out by going to that chord section to sift and came across it in the first song listed: > Adios, Adios

note: for most technical support calls (satellite, internet, Bell phone, new gadget support, etc) I actually have to spell JONES...then when I receive follow up paperwork it's typically spelled JOHNS...either I mumble or i suppose these folks have overapplied the silent E rule

Howdy jj - and hoping your Holidays, and everone's were fine.

As I mentioned above in reply to Ron, I'm surprised they get Jones wrong....
I guess the off shore phone center countries do not have Jones as a common name in their country. But its also a matter of listening when you spell it out.
Oh well.

Thanks for replying on a few songs remaining.

I think I have not posted in near two weeks, and for a game thread, that is not very courteous of me. The Holidays hit me a little harder than I expected. Well - here's to ongoing quizzers, other Q & A threads, and all threads in general !

jj -your game submissions as follows, first :
Q238 ....motor.... Remains unanswered. 2nd clue is: not allowed over in USA, on some radio stations.
> motor city madness > Black Day in July

In short, you got it !

BTW - you guys listen to Ted Nugent back when you were a teenager and beyond ? - He had a song I recall on his classic 'Hey Baby" album called 'Motor City Madness' - a head-banger hard clean rock song, no wah-wah pedals et al for him - course he's kinda nuts at first, then as you listen to his hunting cable shows, as he nears 60, he is quite the conservative turn-around, NRA and all. But then as far as the song - he was out of Detroit anyway, could be coincidence. Great hard rock from days gone by for me.

So jj you got Q238, then:

Q243 To understand
> try to understand the feelings that you lack > IYCYMM
Clue was: To understand.... . Oh those ole' dots. Thats the only thing that makes this otherwise working answer just a notch off. The capital T on 'To' indicates, as it is not a proper noun, and preceeded by no dots, that the verse starts with 'To understand....' , unlike IYCRMM - which uses it at end of verse as follows:
.....between the lines you'll know that I'm just trying to understand

Oh well - very close and good shot at it.

Then,
Q245 ....old Mexico
..... its listed in Lighfoot.ca, under regular 'Lyrics and Chords'

> ok, toughie, but Hashed it out by going to that chord section to sift and came across it in the first song listed: > Adios, Adios
Thats it, you got it jj, 2 out of three is good.

So, that leaves, with ten new clues waiting in the wings:
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Final status as of 7:45 PM Tues.,Jan./06/09: end of this set, see new 10 !

Q236 .... road signs .... Joveski got it with 'Bells of the evening'

Q237 .... of a taxi .... Joveski got it with'Betty Called Me In'

Q238 ....motor.... jj got it with 'Black Day in July'

Q239 ....or swim jj got it with 'You'll Still Be Needing Me'

Q240 ....not a pretty....Joveski got it again ! with: 'Uncle Toad Said''

Q241 ..... overhead formerlyLavender got it with: 'Brave Mountaineers'

Q242 ....in my shoes 2nd Clue:'where's my carbide lamp?- Ron got it with 'Boss Man'. Congrats, Ron.

Q243 To understand .... Remained unanswered 2nd Clue: 'I know what they said, but...

Q244 Pay any dues .... Dave of Melbourne got it ! - 'Only Love Would Know'

Q245 ....old Mexico jj got it with 'Adios Adios'

I might skip strory clues next ten. But this remained as well:

SQ1 Story clue - Remains unsolved 2nd clue Solve it by rhyme or reason . And -..... in shades of twilight 1st clue: He still sort of loves her, but wants her to be happy moreso than necessarily love him, if she needs him at a certain time of day , he'll be there for her, but if for any reason she wants him to leave, he'll be on a train outta there. - Ron gave a good crack at it with:

'If You Need Me' but... its got to have a train in it..... see 2nd clue(s)

NOTE: -The first two story clues went well enough, but I can see great ambiguity in story clues; less fun maybe. I'll drop 'em if you guys want to ?

~all songs by Gordon Lightfoot except Q245: by 'Lightfoot & Ruth Hash'

OK calling it a finished set here, the last 2 remaining must have been poorly-chosen clues by me. Congratulations on the final round to all ! I have ten more new ones below !
Thanks for playing, everybody. I hope all your Holidays were fine.

[geodeticman.5]

OK guys, lets call the remaining one regular Q and the story SQ1 a game.

I will try to have ten more carefully selected clues this PM today.

I think the previous set went quick in December - basically all in 1/2 a day !

Then this set I am calling it a game on was a mixture of 5 that went virtually

right away, 3 more that took a few more days, and the remaining 2 as I

mentioned above. I'd add that I think the story clues were worth trying; it

seemed the first 2 went OK, but putting myself in your shoes as best as I can

for this current SQ1; its just a clue format that despite the good crack at it

by Ron, is wide open to ambiguous interpretation. If I remove all ambiguity

so as to be immediately obvious, where is the fun in that ?


So, unless anyone feels different, I'll remove the story clue(s) from the next

set of 10 I am refining off and on this afternoon, and set out ten regular

clues of medium difficuly as best as I can, and try to have one or two quick

ones for newer listeners or players; and maybe one toughie as jj put it, and

seven medium difficulty as best as I can discern. Unless people would rather

not, I'll have maybe one from pre UA days, that is to say more directly - all

but maybe one Q will be from the '20' albums, and that one will be likely

Chateau/'Early Lightfoot' , or the Two-Tones at the Village Square to

catch those fortunate players who have these two Oldies. For those without

the 2 albums pre '65 UA, I will make sure the Q is, like all others, in the

Lyrics/Chords section of Wayne's Lightfoot.ca, as was Adios, Adios

that jj nailed. I'll look forward to seeing if there is continuing

interest with this evening's new set. The current status board above is up to

date as well.


See you hopefully by early evening with the new set of 10. Thanks to all.

[geodeticman.5]

HERE ARE TEN NEW CLUES FOR 7:45 P.M.,TUESDAY, JAN 06, 2009 !

All songs can be found in Lightfoot.ca under Lyrics/Chords, and only
Q255 is pre-UA; pre '65; from Chateau's 'Early Lightfoot'. As I know many people do not have this old record, or burned to CD; you can still find it, albeit the hard way, in Wayne's site, Lightfoot.ca.

Remember too, if you have not been allready, its completely fine to do what
we used to call 'cheating', tongue-in-cheek: looking in any lyrics file or any reference material to find the answer. As if at any point what I have said previously on this, or am saying now did make, or now makes any difference !..lol . This may may make it more enjoyable for those harder ones, or to confirm your guess.

And also - another new change - no need for lyrics patches unless you want to in your submissions.

Please tell me if these new 'rules' being lifted makes it more fun, or too easy -at your discression - which frankly, I have no pre-conceived notions of what I called a 'rule' ever really made any difference. I do believe some of you did find it more fun off the top of your head, from what you said. Whatever 'fills your Gourde' arh arh lol....anybody ?

Having fun is the whole point. There are hardly any 'rules' ..lol.. left, except the ones that are intended to be of help to you - the dots for position, and caps on the start of a verse on the first word, unless with a proper noun preceeded and followed by dots, or preceded only indicating the end of a verse. Same as its allways been - if my explanation just now is in any way worded poorly.

I sure hope you have fun

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Q246 Toss ....

Q247 .... mansion ....

Q248 .... soft winds ....

Q249 .... no more

Q250 And wiley ....

Q251 .... bright lights

Q252 Seems like ....

Q253 .... lace

Q254 ....tide shall ....

Q255 .... can't conceive

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Enjoy !

[joveski]

Q247 .... mansion ....

7 island suite


Q251 .... bright lights

make way for the lady



Q253 .... lace

looking at the rain



Q254 ....tide shall ....

mr rock of ages

[geodeticman.5]

Originally Posted by joveski

Q247 .... mansion ....
7 island suite
Q251 .... bright lights
make way for the lady
Q253 .... lace
looking at the rain
Q254 ....tide shall ....
mr rock of ages

Joveski: Thanks for playing !

First one(of yours) : Q247 ...mansion.... - Seven Island Suite - correct !

2nd one: " : Q251 .... bright lights Make Way for the Lady - correct !

3rd one " : Q253 ....lace Looking at the Rain - correct ! unh ohh....

4th one " : Q254 .... tide shall .... - correct -unnnhhh ohhhh

lol OK I made 'em too easy . or you too da88 good Mende ! Maybe both ? lol

Nice work, Mende , I'll chart them. Thanks