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Old 10-20-2008, 04:32 PM   #1
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Just caught this photo...40' from my house...I didn't have time to get a really good shot. AMAZING when she flew off and I just have to get a better camera!!! I think it's hawk because the beak is too short/straight to be an eagle?
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Old 10-20-2008, 04:57 PM   #2
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looks like a hawk..great shots.. I never have my 35mm camera/zoom set up in time when I see the hawks around here..
here's a few of an eagle my cousin took when she lived in Ft.Myers. FLA a few years ago. She had a lake in her neighbourhood that all the houses backed on..(egret pic shows lake and other homes across the lake) she was sitting on her lanai when this eagle flew over, circling and then swooped down and grabbed a fish!... She got some nice pics..
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:24 PM   #3
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They are all pretty good pics, thanks for sharing them Pam & Char.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:00 PM   #4
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Just caught this photo...40' from my house...I didn't have time to get a really good shot. AMAZING when she flew off and I just have to get a better camera!!! I think it's hawk because the beak is too short/straight to be an eagle?

It is s broad winged hawk Pam.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:39 PM   #5
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Just caught this photo...40' from my house...I didn't have time to get a really good shot. AMAZING when she flew off and I just have to get a better camera!!! I think it's hawk because the beak is too short/straight to be an eagle?
I'm no ornithologist, but from what I could see of the head, beak, and general shape of the body itsself, I'd think it would more than likely be a falcon. Still, no matter what it is, it's still a beautiful & majestic creature when it's seen in flight.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:44 PM   #6
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It is s broad winged hawk Pam.
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thanks Bill I've only seen red-tailed hawk around here and usually am just seeing their underside as they fly overhead. I couldn't find my hawk guide so thanks again!
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:49 AM   #7
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I'm no ornithologist, but from what I could see of the head, beak, and general shape of the body itsself, I'd think it would more than likely be a falcon. Still, no matter what it is, it's still a beautiful & majestic creature when it's seen in flight.

Good evaluation Timetraveler! I sent this pic to a couple of local experts and although they say that it cannot be verified from the picture, the head colortion appears to be that of a perigrine falcon but the stature appears to be that of a Coopers Hawk. The one thing they did say with certainty is that my fat ass should stick to guitars and not identifying birds .
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:22 AM   #8
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The one thing they did say with certainty is that my fat ass should stick to guitars and not identifying birds .

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LOL!!!! You're too funny, Bill! I had a hawk of some sort hit my front window last week...I'm surprised it didn't break right through the glass! It died immediately, but I waited all day before removing it from my front deck and tossing it in the back woods. It was HUGE...I think I was afraid it would come back to life and claw me if I removed it too quickly!! I won't make the mistake of trying to identify what kind of hawk because I don't want to have to admit to the fat ass thing when I'm wrong! LOL

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Old 10-23-2008, 11:30 AM   #9
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gee - i've hit the trifecta..can't identify birds, can't play geetar AND i've got a fat ass..
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what to do..what to do..???
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:02 PM   #10
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gee - i've hit the trifecta..can't identify birds, can't play geetar AND i've got a fat ass..
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what to do..what to do..???
lololol ....oh you do not!!! ...... well you can't play guitar I will agree with that one Charzo.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:05 PM   #11
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LOL!!!! You're too funny, Bill! I had a hawk of some sort hit my front window last week...I'm surprised it didn't break right through the glass! It died immediately, but I waited all day before removing it from my front deck and tossing it in the back woods. It was HUGE...I think I was afraid it would come back to life and claw me if I removed it too quickly!! I won't make the mistake of trying to identify what kind of hawk because I don't want to have to admit to the fat ass thing when I'm wrong! LOL

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Hi Vickie!
wow that is surprising it did not break the window....At least you know you have good strong windows for the winter! Anderson? perhaps you can contact them to help their advertising compaign with this story.....unfortunately it involves killing half the wildlife in Michigan ! Have a great week.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:14 PM   #12
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oh billyboy you're too kind and i'm afraid your eyesight is going..
lol
good thing you're so talented tho..at least you have that to!...and you're kinda cute too..


I had a small bird hit the front window a couple of weeks ago..he was dazed and laying on the shrub for a few minutes but got up an dflew away..scared me half to death tho as I was standing right there watching the leaves fall and BANG it hit right in front of my face..I've had birds hit the windows in the spring after eating the berries in my trees that have 'stewed' over the winter/spring and then get the birds drunk. One bird flew onto the fence, tried to hang on, staggered a moment or tow and then fell to the ground trying to get back on it's feet..It was very funny..a tipsy little bird wobbling around.he finally sorted himself out and flew away..
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:13 PM   #13
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Hey Bill, I have no idea what brand windows these are..they are original, and scheduled to be replaced by Andersen's in the spring! Maybe I'll rethink that. LOL When that hawk hit the window, it made a noise so loud it took me forever to figure out what had even happened. This is the 2nd time...when I first moved in here 10 years ago, I had one fly into the back sliding door.

Another interesting story - I was driving down Hwy 23 headed to Mackinaw City a few years ago and a seagull flew straight at me and hit my driver's side mirror. It exploded into about a million pieces, and dented my Jeep!

Carnage, never a good thing. LOL

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Old 10-26-2008, 09:48 PM   #14
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Hey Bill, I have no idea what brand windows these are..they are original, and scheduled to be replaced by Andersen's in the spring! Maybe I'll rethink that. LOL When that hawk hit the window, it made a noise so loud it took me forever to figure out what had even happened. This is the 2nd time...when I first moved in here 10 years ago, I had one fly into the back sliding door.

Another interesting story - I was driving down Hwy 23 headed to Mackinaw City a few years ago and a seagull flew straight at me and hit my driver's side mirror. It exploded into about a million pieces, and dented my Jeep!

Carnage, never a good thing. LOL
Moosedog, Isn't there some dumb ticket for that, when it comes to Wildlife, everything is our fault, unless we are trying to kill with..say..and Elk Tag in Colorado in the fall...'cept my (former, I guess) father-in-law had the "bull-of-the-woods" approach of first suggesting I go hunting in the fall of ..oh..'84 or so....with him... but agreed I'd have to get my Hunter's Safety Certificate 1st. Did that. Donuts and stand behind the shooter. $25

it was mostly how to eat donuts and not shoot your or your parties' fat ass off...unless its your -in-law. and well.. never mind..lol.. No actually I thought, "heck, this would be a good way to brag to my wife I'm gettin some approval ratings outta the old scow" (who could pull fence line and cut firewood faster than three average 21-yr old men together, I'll give him that...) but the "Alpha male" B.S. of him taking my tag as soon as I've gone to all the trouble of learning; not particularly interested in killing anything
thus far. and I showed up at the character-building time of 5 AM, wearing the requisite square inches of orange...when the old man announced "you won't be needing that...here..gimme your tag' - unhmmmmm "Bob, I thought you invited me to go hunting...at least fire a lot of brass and talk about it later he hehe...and this a...orange business set me back at the old Walmart, I'd a... kinda like to give 'er a try...you know...the provider instinct in me and all that, the hunter gatherer side in the DNA of the old Homoerectus species, eh Bob ?" ..... silence..."Gimme your tag, and don't talk to me about that other sh88, and he shot me that 'what the hell are you talking about, and why did my daughter marry you...' look.

Resolving myself to the Logic of the situation , recalling what happens when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force in nature....foot pounds of energy..... no transfer of energy to moving an object...leaves only heat,
I guess..that'd be the anger...I since said all the things to myself I wanted to say that day but didn't, wondered if he'd of respected me more for standing my ground...which I did later in life.. and he didn't....lol....

'ok..here Bob..here's the tag...".. 'I'm a better shot Steve, and we want meat in the freezer this winter go**-it' ,(he was a butcher, too... always wonder why the was...part) . I considered the mental image of him in the County Cooler, then Fed Penn (sp?) for breaking a law in Hunting I learned about in that stupid $25 class that now just tells me A: don't piss him off with a gun , and B. Don't piss him off with the gun... 'The law, Bob,, its clear that..." Big mistake.. He shot the first thing that moved, and I shut up. picturing further him in doing the big dime... or whatever its called....ten years of peace...hmm//naw. lol

Moosedog your windows IMO if you're thinking of Andersen's, especially the crank type, I have seen in my father's mountain home Andersen's covering entire walls with 6 foot high expanses 10 feet long on 3 walls of the 2nd story Solarium/Dining area...looking on the most beautiful views to be found in Colorado... up at just under 10,000 feet, take a REAL BEATING for about 30 years....the key they said, besides proper hanging, was to crimp the pressure equalization tube for whatever elevation you are at... so the windows ambient pressure at least starts the same... and thats only available on the high-altitude glass ...but they are GOOD quality...Pella's .Trades'men talking shop when they came in confirmed it... from my Lumber and Hardware counter-advice/sales days in school..... was the best...but structurally similar to Andersen's ..it was said you just were paying more for more insurance on failure - no failure cases $ of course are profit in the pocket of Pella's.

Never seen anybody with, or talk of their "Pellas" in the Mountains up near dad's old....sailor's Eagle nest...wrap around deck for ex-Navy walking the deck at night and smoking the pipe... anyway the -30 lows up there, the 100mph gusts..the Andersen's took it. If it was MY money, I'd not think twice about Andersen's.

I woudn''t know a Pare-of-grinders Falcon from a buzzard on a sh**wagon. wish I could help in all the learned talk... beautiful pictures you all got.
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Good evaluation Timetraveler! I sent this pic to a couple of local experts and although they say that it cannot be verified from the picture, the head colortion appears to be that of a perigrine falcon but the stature appears to be that of a Coopers Hawk. The one thing they did say with certainty is that my fat ass should stick to guitars and not identifying birds .
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I think you may be right about what it is, as I happened to see a similar such bird around here recently with similar markings on the face.
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