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Old 06-25-2006, 11:27 AM   #1
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First off - I'm a Cash fan. I was really looking forward to hearing this after getting an advance copy oy "American V".

Nice simple arrangement - 2 guitars and organ.

It is, however, very difficult to get past how bad Johnny's voice is: crackling, whispering and short of breath (I understand the disease he had deterioated all muscle functions in his body).

It is obvious that it was one of the last songs he recorded - other songs on cd have him in slightly stronger voice and probably recorded months before. "Help Me" is nicely arranged and sang as if he really meant it.
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Old 06-25-2006, 01:10 PM   #2
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Thanks for the info Blackberry John. I too am a Cash fan. I cant wait to get that CD. I agree his voice is a bit haunting, compared to how we got introduced to Johnny Cash's famous voice. But if as you stated, is obvious to you that it was one of his last recordings, all the better. Meaning 2 things,(1) He didn't want to leave without doing that beautiful GL song. OR (2)He simply saved the best for last.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:05 PM   #3
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I got to hear Cash sing First Time Ever I Saw Your Face on The American IV album, and I was kinda disappointed because he sang it too slow compared to Gord's version.

It went like this:

'The first time *slow guitar playing* Ever I saw your faaace' *more slow guitar playing*
'I thought the sun rose *more slow playing* In your eyeees *more slow playing*'

There were some other great songs on that album, though, like HURT, BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATERS, and MAN COMES AROUND.
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:28 AM   #4
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http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/st...new_johnny.php

New Johnny Cash Album Will Tear Your Soul Apart

American IV is one of my top forty or so favorite albums of all time, so I wasn't particularly thrilled with the news that we'd be getting another album of Rubin collabos. The artist's-death cottage-industry is nothing new; ask Tupac. And Cash's estate has been flooding the market with best-ofs and box sets and unreleased material since his death, but I'm not especially mad at that; he was, after all, a national treasure, and that's just what you do when a national treasure dies. But American IV had such an air of finality that I didn't want anyone fucking with it. The book was closed, and they should just walk away. But American V: A Hundred Highways, which drops on the fourth of July, is nearly as great as American IV. It's just as suffused with death and grief and regret as its predecessor, and it's just as sad and gorgeous. Cash recorded it in the months between June's death and his own, and he did away with all the alt-rock covers and marquee-name guests. There's a cover of Bruce Springsteen's "Further On (Up the Road)," but the album mostly sticks with traditionals and Cash originals. And they're all about dying, of course. Cash's voice is still tough and sinewy, but you can hear the age in it for the first time, the breath intakes and soft quivers. Rubin keeps all the arrangements from getting within Cash's way except when he needs them to beef things up, like the ominous Angels of Light drum-stomp on the apocalyptic gospel burner "God's Gonna Cut You Down." And there's a lot of stuff about not wanting to go yet: "Oh Lord, help me walk another mile." Three songs are addressed to God, and a lot of the others are love songs; everything is just crushingly, unbearably sad. The song that sticks with me the most is "On the Evening Train," a ballad about a man watching his wife's coffin leaving on a train: "I pray that God will give me courage to carry on till we meet again / It's hard to know she's gone forever / They're carrying her home on the evening train." Some of the other songs are about personal failures, the sort of stuff that I can imagine just tearing you up when you know your time is short. It's summer, and it's a lot more fun to listen to Lily Allen and Field Mob and Brightblack Morning Light than some excoriating edge-of-mortality stuff like this. American V is one of the most depressing albums I've ever heard, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who's not ready to be depressed. But if you're worried that it's a crass money-grab, stop worrying. Still, don't buy it until July 5th. This is not barbecue material.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:56 PM   #5
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American IV did have a note of finality to it. Glad to hear this one does too.
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:42 PM   #6
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IMHO Worth a visit is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Lightfoot
which is bang up to date as it includes a reference to Johnny Cash's IYCRMM cover
There is also a hard to believe allegation that permission to use Gord's IYCRMM on the DVD releaae of the British comedy show "Trigger Happy TV" which had featured IYCRMM was denied because the show was not considered "funny"!!
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Old 06-28-2006, 06:59 PM   #7
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BTW Blackberry John, just giving friendly advice, watch the vocabulary. Potty-mouths aren't tolerated on this board.

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Old 06-29-2006, 06:03 AM   #8
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I'll buy anything Cash that's released and am very much looking forward to this new CD. Also, his newest 2 CD release, "Personal File", is my favorite Cash release to date. I'm glad I decided to buy it; not another compilation as all songs on both CD's have never been released. Recorded in 1974, Cash's voice is perfect and basically all you hear is Cash, his guitar and sometime's a little back-up. Almost every song is introduced by Cash with a little history about it.
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:04 AM   #9
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fading Away:
BTW Blackberry John, just giving friendly advice, watch the vocabulary. Potty-mouths aren't tolerated on this board.
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The review that Blackberry John posted (with link) was not his own words but that from the Village Voice website.
The whole posting about the CD at Village Voice was quite an interesting read.
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:38 PM   #10
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from CMT:
http://www.cmt.com/news/articles/153...headlines=true
Thu. June 29.2006 5:37 PM EDTNASHVILLE SKYLINE: Johnny Cash's Musical Farewell From the Grave
New American V CD Is His Most Affecting Ever

By: Chet Flippo
(NASHVILLE SKYLINE is a column by CMT/CMT.com Editorial Director Chet Flippo.)

Four years after Johnny Cash's seeming last studio album American IV comes the new American V: A Hundred Highways, set for release Tuesday (July 4). Though he never sounder weaker in voice, in many ways the new work is, to me, the most emotionally effective and affecting thing he has ever done.

Though weak in voice and almost completely blind by then, his spirit was never stronger, and that spirit shines through strongly on these intense performances. They are not musically pretty but they will grab and hold your attention through sheer will.

The more fragile Cash became physically, it seemed the more he gained acute insights into the music he wanted to round out his life and career. This CD reflects a man who had come to terms with his own mortality and who could unflinchingly look eternity in the eye. In many ways, the entire album is confessional. On the opening song, Larry Gatlin's "Help Me," the lines "I never thought I needed help before/Thought that I could get by myself" cut through to your very soul. Cash continues, "But now I know I just can't take it anymore/And with a humble heart on bended knee/I'm begging you please for help."

He converts Gordon Lightfoot's "If You Could Read My Mind" -- which I had heretofore regarded as a relatively carefree song -- into a dark night of the soul of a dying man. Similarly, Don Gibson's "A Legend in My Time" becomes a wryly brooding, almost bleak look back at Cash's own life and legend. In the same way, Ian Tyson's "Four Strong Winds" becomes a bittersweet farewell message.

He again says farewell to his late wife, June Carter Cash, with "Rose of My Heart" and with the mournful words of Hank Williams "On the Evening Train," singing, "I pray that God will give me courage/To carry on till we meet again/It's hard to know she's gone forever."

The last song Cash ever wrote, "Like the 309" (which returns to the train-sound rhythm of Cash's first single "Hey Porter"), and the other Cash original, "I Came to Believe," seem songs of resignation from a man at last at peace with himself and with the world.

Interestingly, I'm seeing a few backlashes in online chats and Web sites of people who are dismissing this and the whole of the American Records series as being sort of too far away from Johnny's past and the glories of his Sun Records years and his Folsom Prison era. Well, I can understand staunch traditionalists, but still ... let the man breathe a little.

Then there are those attacking the American Recordings series for being too modern and for Cash covering rock songs by the likes of Trent Reznor and Nick Cave. Well, I say screw 'em. A great song is a great song, no matter who wrote it, and Cash obviously was a champion of that theory. His song catalog in recent years is pretty much impervious to attack, as far as I'm concerned.

There are people who say they are unconvinced by Cash's obviously world-weary attitude toward the end of his life and seem a bit offended by his faltering vocals on these last recordings. Well, I say, of course he sounded weak. He was dying. This is the voice of authenticity. He still felt he had something to say. And he obviously did, and the work is powerfully effective. The songs are made much stronger, I think, by Cash's determined efforts to make them work. He put his heart and soul into these recordings.

And there are those questioning the underpinnings of this album and the matter of determining what Cash would want for instrumentation and accompaniment. Cash recorded these songs -- and about three dozen more -- as only vocal tracks, with his guitar, in the months before his death. So it was up to producer Rick Rubin to do the arrangements and add the musical backing. With primary musical backing coming from Heartbreakers Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench and from slide guitarist Smokey Hormel, who had all worked with Cash before, it was a smooth and natural and logical glide, it seems to these ears. The music is all of a piece.

Finally, you know, certain recent developments with a certain female music trio inevitably bring back memories of when Cash was totally exiled from the country music industry for being too old. His record label dropped him, country radio quit playing him, and he became a non-person on Music Row for many years. What was his reaction? First, he withdrew to the road and his fans there. And he never, as far as I recall, complained publicly at the treatment he received from Nashville and the country music industry.

Then, after the redemption of his first American Recordings work, came the violent, kick-out-the-footlights-Cash blowout of old, with his full-page Billboard ad depicting him literally giving the finger to Music Row and to country radio. After that, he shut his mouth, did no interviews about it and settled down to doing what he did best -- and that was writing and recording great music. He reinvigorated and reinvented himself, made some great new albums and won Grammys and found a whole new audience. I guess others could learn from his example. If they choose to.
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Thanks Char! Good, good article.
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[quote]Originally posted by charlene:
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Originally posted by Fading Away:
BTW Blackberry John, just giving friendly advice, watch the vocabulary. Potty-mouths aren't tolerated on this board.
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The review that Blackberry John posted (with link) was not his own words but that from the Village Voice website.
The whole posting about the CD at Village Voice was quite an interesting read.
Oops, sorry about that, Blackberry John.
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