Tell Me Something (please)

Everyone who visits this site regularly and reads my posts knows all about my love problems. I have only one thing to ask. ARE MEXICAN BOYS GREAT FIGHTERS?

[BILLW]

DMD3,

Some are, but that's true of all nationalities. But is she worth fighting over ? Keep your eye on his eyes, that will tell you when/if he really wants to hit you. Then keep one eye on his hands and make sure he's not armed. That's a whole different story at that point.
Can you avoid this whole scene, that's probably a good option. ?

Bill

[TheWatchman]

Why do you ask? Do you need to defend yourself or are you fighting over a girl?

Take my word for it, girls are worth fighting for to defend their safety but they are not worth fighting over to win them. If you are able, always be the bigger man and walk away.

[BILLW]

DMD3,

The Watchman is right on in this case.

Bill

I'll explain at lunch when I have more time. I'm kind of both fighting for her and over her.

Alright, a while back I got a letter sent home to be signed. I thought was a bad note(it wasn't) so while carrying it down the hall I had my head down and arms crossed, like I was ashamed or something. And she passed me, like always. Well, she must have taken it for a love note or something because that Friday, I saw her holding hands with a Mexican boy. Next week, when he wasn't with her, I would see him giving me mean looks, like he wanted to beat my @$$. Well, a couple of weeks later she must have realized her mistake, but decided it was too late, although I've seen her from the road and she was actually looking at me. I figured she wouldn't be looking at me like that if she still didn't like me. Now, she may have been looking just to remind herself that she does not want me, I don't know. But it has been 3 months, and although it looked as though she had forgiven me, she may not. Anyway, she may not be able to break up with him because he is the extrovertish type. I don't know if she even wants to break up with him. She might try to play us and let us fight over her. But yesterday morning, I passed them out in the hall, and they were talking, I kept my eyes straight ahead, and I heard her murmur something that sounded like "There he is right there" and I thought I heard him say"Aaah, that's alright I'll get him". I don't know if she has been planning to sick him on me or what. I've had this bad feeling that I may have to fight him, whether if it's because they break up and she starts going out with me, and it turns to the old X-boyfriend type of thing, or he might get tired of me because I'm sure she mentioned to him earlier about what I did(what she thinks I did) or she might still be planning to have him whoop my @$$. So, I don't know when and I don't know where, but I have an awful feeling I'm going to half to fight either for her, over her, or against her.

[BILLW]

DMD3,

How about you ask a girl out who has no boyfriend ? Then you'll both have something to do and your old girlfriend and her amigo will forget about you and you'll be too busy having fun and doing things that you won't have time to worry ? Can't be any worse than what you've got churning in your head right now. I think you need a fresh start.

Bill

[TheWatchman]

I agree. Forget about the chic. The first time a pretty girl smiles at you, you'll forget all about your ex and Skippy the boyfriend.

"...but I have an awful feeling I'm going to half to fight either for her, over her, or against her."

Two problems with this statement DMD. First, you are once again using the word "half" when you mean have. Secondly, you said that you may have to "fight against her". Never fight a woman. Trust me, they simply are not worth the headache. My generation of women, and probably more so your generation, are mostly all about money and greed. The majority of women are snakes in the grass looking for their next victim. Always look out for #1.

[BILLW]

Watchman,

Stand by to be stoned, LOL.......

Bill

[Borderstone]

Hey! Watchman and I agree on something!

No woman is worth winning if you have to get beat up or into a fist-fight (or worse) over her. It's one thing to say,"I'd die for you honey",if she is your girlfriend but if she's not,then just let someone else have her. It may just mean there's someone else out there that's meant for you and that other girl wasn't meant to be. Being "macho" as some say,is just not worth it. Been me,Border "Macho" Stone ,later!

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[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by BILLW:
Watchman,

Stand by to be stoned, LOL.......

Bill


Watchman. Stand real still now, while I throw this pile of rocks at you.

Cathy http://www.iamnotasnake.com

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by DMD3:
Alright, a while back I got a letter sent home to be signed. I thought was a bad note(it wasn't) so while carrying it down the hall I had my head down and arms crossed, like I was ashamed or something. And she passed me, like always. Well, she must have taken it for a love note or something because that Friday, I saw her holding hands with a Mexican boy. Next week, when he wasn't with her, I would see him giving me mean looks, like he wanted to beat my @$$. Well, a couple of weeks later she must have realized her mistake, but decided it was too late, although I've seen her from the road and she was actually looking at me. I figured she wouldn't be looking at me like that if she still didn't like me. Now, she may have been looking just to remind herself that she does not want me, I don't know. But it has been 3 months, and although it looked as though she had forgiven me, she may not. Anyway, she may not be able to break up with him because he is the extrovertish type. I don't know if she even wants to break up with him. She might try to play us and let us fight over her. But yesterday morning, I passed them out in the hall, and they were talking, I kept my eyes straight ahead, and I heard her murmur something that sounded like "There he is right there" and I thought I heard him say"Aaah, that's alright I'll get him". I don't know if she has been planning to sick him on me or what. I've had this bad feeling that I may have to fight him, whether if it's because they break up and she starts going out with me, and it turns to the old X-boyfriend type of thing, or he might get tired of me because I'm sure she mentioned to him earlier about what I did(what she thinks I did) or she might still be planning to have him whoop my @$$. So, I don't know when and I don't know where, but I have an awful feeling I'm going to half to fight either for her, over her, or against her.


DMD, dump her. She's not worth it. She's playing you against him and him against you just for the excitement of the game. It makes her feel pretty special to know that two guys are after her. She's not worth your time and effort. The best thing you can do is find yourself another girl and walk arm in arm with her, right past this other girl and her boyfriend, and don't give them the satisfaction of even letting on they exist.

If he still wants to fight you, tell him you concede and that he can have her. She's not worth it, and it sounds like the two of them are made for each other.

And don't believe Watchman's comment about all women being snakes who are out after your money. In this day and age, most of us are self-sufficient enough so that we have money of our own.
Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[Porter]

Find a different woman man......

Fighting over chicks really isn't the natural way to get them (unless you think your in some kind of "hero" movie)

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:

And don't believe Watchman's comment about all women being snakes who are out after your money. In this day and age, most of us are self-sufficient enough so that we have money of our own.
Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

I said "mostly all". "My generation of women, and probably more so your generation, are mostly all about money and greed. The majority of women are snakes in the grass looking for their next victim."

Yes there are women who are self-sufficient but that is when greed comes into play. They always want more and will steal and lie to get it. In this day and age, you must look out for yourself. It's sad, but true. There are good women out there, but they are few and far between.

Today, 3 out of 4 marriages end in divorce. In the previous generation, 50% of all marriages ended in divorce. It's not getting any better, according to the latest statistics.

[Iron]

DMD3,
Your situation brings to mind a song and if You look deep into the lyrics I think it might help you.I don't recall who did the song,but I'm pretty sure it was'nt Gordon.This might not be word for word,but it goes something like this>>>>
I was lookin back to see
if she was lookin back to see
If I was lookin back to see
if she was lookin back at me

Hope this helps

[Sundown17]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
I said "mostly all". "My generation of women, and probably more so your generation, are mostly all about money and greed. The majority of women are snakes in the grass looking for their next victim."

Yes there are women who are self-sufficient but that is when greed comes into play. They always want more and will steal and lie to get it. In this day and age, you must look out for yourself. It's sad, but true. There are good women out there, but they are few and far between.

Today, 3 out of 4 marriages end in divorce. In the previous generation, 50% of all marriages ended in divorce. It's not getting any better, according to the latest statistics.


It is a sad trend. But I think that perhaps ONE of the reasons that it is rising is because of what Cathy mentions. SOME women who are in unhappy marriages have the wherewithall to support themselves through their own hard work and success in the business world and don't need a man's paycheck, so can afford to be divorced. I am sure that we can all think of marriages of our parents' and grandparents' generation where there should have been a divorce, but the woman could not support herself with the measily alimony and child support they were handing out back then because most of them were at-home mom's with no marketable skills.
Then there is the stigma of divorce from that era that stopped alot of them. There were also men that stayed in a bad marriage, because they were brought up to be good husbands and fathers at all costs.
While I am glad that personal happiness has taken on a higher priority in this day and age...I do believe that the pendulum is swinging too much the other way and SOME people, men and women alike, are not taking their family responsibilites seriously enough.

I don't think that the MAJORITY of women are snakes in the grass and that good women are far and few between...it's just that most of the good ones are already married to good men that were lucky enough to find each other and were able to muddle through the tough times.

And SOME men are just as guilty of such selfishness. There are alot of them that I know that think of women as just cooks/housekeepers/babysitters/concubines and not real people, just like SOME women who think of men as only bank accounts.

And finally but most importantly, yes Douglas, find yourself another gal who will appreciate you for you and not how she can manipulate you for her entertainment. This current girl is a player and right now she is playing you. The next victim will be this current boyfriend when someone else catches her fancy. But she will always have you on the line as long as you let her. Don't. Walk away from the whole thing like everyone has been advising you to because we care about you. Yes, it will hurt like h*ll, but there will be an end to the hurt once you stop caring about her.

And just think about this? If she were to come back to you...would you ever trust her again? And if there's no trust in a relationship...then why bother?

I wish you all the best. Keep us posted.

Diane

[gwen snyder]

DMD3,
life is short. head on to the next round. You are young and have a good head on your shoulders (listening to Gords music proves that, duh!). You also have a lot to learn. Next lesson. Learn from your mistakes. Continue to listen to good music and life is good. Remember she could not have been right for you, you deserve someone kind like yourself. A girl who thinks about how others feelings may be hurt would be the perfect girl for you. This is not advice it's just character analysis. Look for someone like you in the opposite gender, they are out there. Good luck.

[TheWatchman]

I guess I should clarify. When the right man and woman are together, especially married, there is nothing better. Trust is everything in any relationship and when two people get married, they make themselves very vulnerable to one another. Even outside of marriage, the risks are almost the same.

There are men who are greedy and self-serving snakes in the grass as well. But DMD is dealing with a woman, and well lets face it, life is not always full of wonderful people and in this day and age, you must look for signs of any mental instability and if you notice any, run like the wind and don't look back.

I was dead filing some client files a few weeks ago and I can across a woman's file who first placed insurance with us in 1965 in her own name after her divorce. Our agency had to fight to get this woman insurance in her own name BECAUSE of her divorce. There were testimonial letters from the local pastor, the agency owner and even the mayor of the town. Back then a single or divorced woman had no power, no place in society and very little in the way of rights. Try denying a woman insurance coverage today because of her marital status and see how quick the lawsuits fly. That is part of the reason divorce was not common place. In addition there were few women in the work force, see above.

I don't really see the point in going back to a time and place where half the population was being financially inslaved by the other half.

As for the greed factor - phhtttffff. Try and find a single man these days who wants a partner who can cook and clean. The majority of men out there are looking for blond barbie dolls. I would go so far as to suggest that the men out there on a barbie hunt are getting exactly what they deserve.

The rest of us females with a brain in our head are getting our selves a big loud dog and nice car instead of a husband.

DMD3 - let her go. If you're having to chase her that hard she does not want to be caught.

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[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:

As for the greed factor - phhtttffff. Try and find a single man these days who wants a partner who can cook and clean.


Would it be fair to say that if a man publically said he wanted a woman to cook and clean, that he would be ripped to shreads?

There are also men who are getting themselves a fancy car instead of a wife. But I wonder, which requires more maintenance?

But somehow it's okay for a 41 year old man to say he's looking for a 20 to 28 year old single shapely slender female, blonde hair, blue eyes who wants to start a family and it's okay. I usually laugh out loud at those. Yeah, here you go honey, he's twenty years older than you, probably has a beer gut and two ex wives, but he wants to father your children. Yummmmm.

Imagine if the personal ad instead read "41 year old female looking for 20 to 28 year old good looking male, blue eyes, blonde hair, to father my children." That wouldn't fly either.

Double standards abound out there in the single and looking world. If you're a 30+ single female, you can either spend most of your time and effort trying to weed out the married men, alcoholics, guys with twenty three tattoos and Northern Idaho arms fanatics, or you can get a big dog. I prefer sleeping with the dog. She farts in bed, steals the covers and occasionally pushes me off the bed. I do not however have to pick her dirty underwear up off the bathroom floor, listen to her whine about how I don't cook like her mother or wait for her to come home at 2am after The Roadhouse kicks her out for slapping a waitress on the butt.

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[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
I said "mostly all". "My generation of women, and probably more so your generation, are mostly all about money and greed. The majority of women are snakes in the grass looking for their next victim."

Yes there are women who are self-sufficient but that is when greed comes into play. They always want more and will steal and lie to get it. In this day and age, you must look out for yourself. It's sad, but true. There are good women out there, but they are few and far between.

Today, 3 out of 4 marriages end in divorce. In the previous generation, 50% of all marriages ended in divorce. It's not getting any better, according to the latest statistics.

And it's all because of greedy women? Come on, Watchmen. It takes two to tango.

I've been divorced twice, and it didn't have a thing to do with me being greedy. It had to do with the lazy bums not getting off their butts and pulling their own weight. I don't mind going 50/50 on a marriage, but I'll be d*mned if I'm going to support a man who is too lazy to support himself. If that's greed, then so be it. I'm greedy.

And on top of that, neither one of them played guitar.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com



[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited January 31, 2004).]

See, if I wanted to admit it, I'm really holding out for a man who plays guitar and writes song lyrics. I always wanted to have a love song written for me. Men like that are what, one in a billion?

All the last ex did for me was teach me how to tail people and run a skip trace. Useful yes, but totally unromantic, and once he becomes your ex, rather scary.

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
[BAnd on top of that, neither one of them played guitar.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited January 31, 2004).][/B]



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[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
And it's all because of greedy women? Come on, Watchmen. It takes two to tango.

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You must have missed what I wrote earlier. Again, "There are men who are greedy and self-serving snakes in the grass as well. But DMD is dealing with a woman, and well lets face it, life is not always full of wonderful people and in this day and age, you must look for signs of any mental instability and if you notice any, run like the wind and don't look back."

Sorry to hear about the divorces. When I was managing a production crew which consisted of 95% women, most of them were the breadwinners in the family, while their husbands refused to work and just sat around all day. Disgusting slobs. Of course it goes both ways, but DMD was speaking of girl problems and well, it wouldn't do him much good to talk about all the male bums in the world.

Violet, I'll write you a love song. I can even play a little guitar. xoxoxoxoxo

. . . gee . . . thanks . . . no . . . I'll pass.


quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Violet, I'll write you a love song. I can even play a little guitar. xoxoxoxoxo

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