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johnfowles · 10-24-2004, 01:20 AM

quote:Originally posted by SilverHeels:
Hey, John, why not go the whole mile and give detailed directions to my house!

You're very touchy Bru all I was attempting to do was make a joke about how you once reacted when once I dared to intimate
to you that you lived in the inferior borough of Croydon (I suspect that if these two boroughs were located over here they would both be classed in the local vernacular as "cities" even though the majority of US cities have churches hardly comparible to a genuine cathedral
I had hitherto stuck to what I thought was the correct British definition of a city
(either a large town with a cathedral or an important town granted city status by the mknarch)

so I did some googling for the definition of a city http://dictionary.com says in part
"c. A large incorporated town in Great Britain, usually the seat of a bishop, with its title conferred by the Crown."
The US Websters hedges its bets with
"1. A large town.
2. A corporate town; in the United States, a town or collective body of inhabitants, incorporated and governed by a mayor
and aldermen or a city council consisting of a board of aldermen and a common council;
in Great Britain, a town corporate, which is or has been the seat of a bishop, or the capital of his see.
A city is a town incorporated; which is, or has been, the see of a bishop; and though the bishopric has been dissolved, as at Westminster, it yet remaineth a city.
which is what I always thought since a bishop rules a diocese/see and the main church and his seat is usually a cathedral,.
there is a nice thread on this very subject at:- http://www.answers.google.com/answer...view?id=411080
I'd never come across www.answers.google.com before looks good do you use it Annie??
Interestingly my relatively small (9000 population ) hometown of Sherborne Dorset England once was a city

since what is now the glorious Sherborne Abbey (founded n 705 AD)

was one thousand odd years ago the seat of the bishop of the Wessex See and therefore known as Sherborne cathedral but it lost that status when the see and bishop moved to the newly built (started in 1220) cathedral at Salisbury, Wiltshire

This fine cathedral has the highest steeple (404 feet) in Britain
Please note my Sherborne is not the same as the similarly spelled township of Sherborn Massachusetts

(Picture of me taken during a recent visit to Boston)
Just think Bru instead of getting back up on your high horse you could have grabbed your snazzy digital camera dashed out into the
street,dodged the traffic, taken a picture of your residence and come back indoors, reread my detailed destructions, put on your best thinking cap and displayed the house picture here your very self thereby saving me the aggro
No I can't bear the agony of waiting any longer so here is a pic of what I visualise your mansion looks like!!!

Shirley Hills Road, Shirley, Surrey
£875,000, 4 bedroom detached house
situated in the highly sought after Shirley Hills location
(as viewed at):- http://www.findaproperty.com/cgi-bin...rop&pid=071125
OK that's today's geography and history and economics lessons so please go and talk amongst yourselves
John Fowles
topically bad pun
Buffalo, NY bacame a city in 1832. In 2032, when the city of Buffalo is 200 years old, the mayor plans to hold a Bison-tennial Festival.
P. groan S. I do not know how I contrived to mishandle my calculator and exaggerate the number of peals and yes Al there is a subtle comma after "times" in the printed version but there is nary a pause in ther way Gord usually sings it so I rest my case

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10-24-2004, 01:20 AM	#19
johnfowles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Jersey U.S.A. ex UK and Canada Posts: 4,846	quote:Originally posted by SilverHeels: Hey, John, why not go the whole mile and give detailed directions to my house! You're very touchy Bru all I was attempting to do was make a joke about how you once reacted when once I dared to intimate to you that you lived in the inferior borough of Croydon (I suspect that if these two boroughs were located over here they would both be classed in the local vernacular as "cities" even though the majority of US cities have churches hardly comparible to a genuine cathedral I had hitherto stuck to what I thought was the correct British definition of a city (either a large town with a cathedral or an important town granted city status by the mknarch) so I did some googling for the definition of a city http://dictionary.com says in part "c. A large incorporated town in Great Britain, usually the seat of a bishop, with its title conferred by the Crown." The US Websters hedges its bets with "1. A large town. 2. A corporate town; in the United States, a town or collective body of inhabitants, incorporated and governed by a mayor and aldermen or a city council consisting of a board of aldermen and a common council; in Great Britain, a town corporate, which is or has been the seat of a bishop, or the capital of his see. A city is a town incorporated; which is, or has been, the see of a bishop; and though the bishopric has been dissolved, as at Westminster, it yet remaineth a city. which is what I always thought since a bishop rules a diocese/see and the main church and his seat is usually a cathedral,. there is a nice thread on this very subject at:- http://www.answers.google.com/answer...view?id=411080 I'd never come across www.answers.google.com before looks good do you use it Annie?? Interestingly my relatively small (9000 population ) hometown of Sherborne Dorset England once was a city since what is now the glorious Sherborne Abbey (founded n 705 AD) was one thousand odd years ago the seat of the bishop of the Wessex See and therefore known as Sherborne cathedral but it lost that status when the see and bishop moved to the newly built (started in 1220) cathedral at Salisbury, Wiltshire This fine cathedral has the highest steeple (404 feet) in Britain Please note my Sherborne is not the same as the similarly spelled township of Sherborn Massachusetts (Picture of me taken during a recent visit to Boston) Just think Bru instead of getting back up on your high horse you could have grabbed your snazzy digital camera dashed out into the street,dodged the traffic, taken a picture of your residence and come back indoors, reread my detailed destructions, put on your best thinking cap and displayed the house picture here your very self thereby saving me the aggro No I can't bear the agony of waiting any longer so here is a pic of what I visualise your mansion looks like!!! Shirley Hills Road, Shirley, Surrey £875,000, 4 bedroom detached house situated in the highly sought after Shirley Hills location (as viewed at):- http://www.findaproperty.com/cgi-bin...rop&pid=071125 OK that's today's geography and history and economics lessons so please go and talk amongst yourselves John Fowles topically bad pun Buffalo, NY bacame a city in 1832. In 2032, when the city of Buffalo is 200 years old, the mayor plans to hold a Bison-tennial Festival. P. groan S. I do not know how I contrived to mishandle my calculator and exaggerate the number of peals and yes Al there is a subtle comma after "times" in the printed version but there is nary a pause in ther way Gord usually sings it so I rest my case [This message has been edited by johnfowles (edited October 24, 2004).]