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DMD3 10-12-2003 02:48 PM

How many GL songs are there in all? This includes unreleased tracks and tracks that he didn't write.

DMD3 10-12-2003 02:48 PM

How many GL songs are there in all? This includes unreleased tracks and tracks that he didn't write.

johnfowles 10-15-2003 04:14 PM

A very good question DMD 3 and one for which I have personally never seen a definitive answer
but in another thread today the "railway hall of fame" it says
"The
original ballad tells the tale of the building of the Canadian Pacific
Railway, and is one of 400 songs that he's written and recorded"
But it just so happens that I am working on a private Gord mp3 project for which I need a definitive answer so will work on it from the available published sources but off the cuff 400 sounds pretty close if you include songs on say the Warner-7 Arts demo disc
the Canadian Talent Library discs/albuns and the next "Eleven-on Twenty"!!!

johnfowles 10-15-2003 04:14 PM

A very good question DMD 3 and one for which I have personally never seen a definitive answer
but in another thread today the "railway hall of fame" it says
"The
original ballad tells the tale of the building of the Canadian Pacific
Railway, and is one of 400 songs that he's written and recorded"
But it just so happens that I am working on a private Gord mp3 project for which I need a definitive answer so will work on it from the available published sources but off the cuff 400 sounds pretty close if you include songs on say the Warner-7 Arts demo disc
the Canadian Talent Library discs/albuns and the next "Eleven-on Twenty"!!!

DMD3 10-16-2003 12:26 PM

I didn't have time to count them precisely but there are 220 to 250 songs if you click on "songs" on this website.
(If my estimation is as close as I think it is)

DMD3 10-16-2003 12:26 PM

I didn't have time to count them precisely but there are 220 to 250 songs if you click on "songs" on this website.
(If my estimation is as close as I think it is)

johnfowles 10-16-2003 04:12 PM

Sorry DMD3 but I bin busy so half not yet found time to work out a definitive answer
but the folowing is as far as I have got:-
1.basic list of the official releases from Val's alphabetical listing at:- http://gordonlightfoot.com/Songs.shtml
total:-223
this is based on Gord's 19 original albums plus the Songbook box-set and therefore includes the handful of songs that he did not write himself
And of course of these a fair number are available in more than one version/recording.
2.in addition to these official issues
there are a number of other actually published albums and bootlegs:-
2.1 Early Lightfoot (10 songs less 2 on Songbook (Remember Me I'm The One and It's Too Late He Wins less This is my Song (also on the Two Tones album)
2.2 Two Tones At The Village Corner) 12 songs
2.3 the CNR Movin EP 3 songs less Steel Rail Blues
2.4 The La Cave Cleveland 1965 bootleg (also issued on the 2 Koala albums "Yellow Bird" and "Get Together"-
the Total La Cave recording comprises 13 tracks (less 6 on other albums not including Echoes Of Heroes)
2.5 The Warner-7 Arts Demos
31 tracks of which
3 (The Lost Children, Echoes of Heroes and Betty Mae's A Good Time Gal) appear on other albums
2.6 The Canadian Talent Library-6 songs less 2 that are on other albums (Turn Turn Turn and Long River)
2.7 A number of unreleased songs including at least 3 recorded by other artists
(Talkin' Silver Cloud Blues, I Can't Make It Anymore, You'll Still Be Needing Me After I'm Gone
2.8 The great and rather neglected single "Spin Spin"
Total of all of the above is:-
223+7+12+2+7+28+4+4=287
2.9 This listing does not include a few very significant unreleased songs on the bootleg of the 1974 Massey Hall concerts
plus we now know there should be 11 out of 18 demos Gord made before his illness on the eagerly awaited Twentieth album
That is all I have time for today
But after further consultation at Wayne's "unreleased" page http://www.lightfoot.ca/unreleas.htm
which I know includes some of the songs on 2.9 above
So after I find more time I'll be back with a further list of other known unreleased recordings (Well known to me anyways)
plus other things like the US and Canadian National Anthems


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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

[This message has been edited by johnfowles (edited October 16, 2003).]

johnfowles 10-16-2003 04:12 PM

Sorry DMD3 but I bin busy so half not yet found time to work out a definitive answer
but the folowing is as far as I have got:-
1.basic list of the official releases from Val's alphabetical listing at:- http://gordonlightfoot.com/Songs.shtml
total:-223
this is based on Gord's 19 original albums plus the Songbook box-set and therefore includes the handful of songs that he did not write himself
And of course of these a fair number are available in more than one version/recording.
2.in addition to these official issues
there are a number of other actually published albums and bootlegs:-
2.1 Early Lightfoot (10 songs less 2 on Songbook (Remember Me I'm The One and It's Too Late He Wins less This is my Song (also on the Two Tones album)
2.2 Two Tones At The Village Corner) 12 songs
2.3 the CNR Movin EP 3 songs less Steel Rail Blues
2.4 The La Cave Cleveland 1965 bootleg (also issued on the 2 Koala albums "Yellow Bird" and "Get Together"-
the Total La Cave recording comprises 13 tracks (less 6 on other albums not including Echoes Of Heroes)
2.5 The Warner-7 Arts Demos
31 tracks of which
3 (The Lost Children, Echoes of Heroes and Betty Mae's A Good Time Gal) appear on other albums
2.6 The Canadian Talent Library-6 songs less 2 that are on other albums (Turn Turn Turn and Long River)
2.7 A number of unreleased songs including at least 3 recorded by other artists
(Talkin' Silver Cloud Blues, I Can't Make It Anymore, You'll Still Be Needing Me After I'm Gone
2.8 The great and rather neglected single "Spin Spin"
Total of all of the above is:-
223+7+12+2+7+28+4+4=287
2.9 This listing does not include a few very significant unreleased songs on the bootleg of the 1974 Massey Hall concerts
plus we now know there should be 11 out of 18 demos Gord made before his illness on the eagerly awaited Twentieth album
That is all I have time for today
But after further consultation at Wayne's "unreleased" page http://www.lightfoot.ca/unreleas.htm
which I know includes some of the songs on 2.9 above
So after I find more time I'll be back with a further list of other known unreleased recordings (Well known to me anyways)
plus other things like the US and Canadian National Anthems


------------------
My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

[This message has been edited by johnfowles (edited October 16, 2003).]

Borderstone 10-16-2003 05:48 PM

According to the most recent interview article posted in a seperate thread he has over 250 to nearly 300. If I know recording artists like I think I do he more than likely has nearly double that. Sometimes artists just record for the heck of it,which is why on Songbook he finally issued some unreleased material. I have to say once again though that,"You'll Still Be Needing Me" should have never been left out of any LP. I think it's so good that it can fit in with any decade. It just doesn't sound like a song recorded in the 60s. I'm sure wone day we'll hear it all. Until then,be frugal in listening to his music and it'll seem like he has plenty. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif Later! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone - AZ's answer to GL! (but what was the question?)

johnfowles 10-16-2003 10:42 PM

quote:Originally posted by johnfowles:

223+7+12+2+7+28+4+4=287
2.9 This listing does not include a few very significant unreleased songs on the bootleg of the 1974 Massey Hall concerts
plus we now know there should be 11 out of 18 demos Gord made before his illness on the eagerly awaited Twentieth album
That is all I have time for today
But after further consultation at Wayne's "unreleased" page http://www.lightfoot.ca/unreleas.htm
which I know includes some of the songs on 2.9 above
So after I find more time I'll be back with a further list of other known unreleased recordings (Well ones that are known to me anyway)
plus other things like the US and Canadian National Anthems



OK I have reviewed Wayne Francis's list of unreleased songs plus a
few other items I happen to know about

1. DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND FRIENDS
Recorded by Allen-White Trio
2. I CAN'T MAKE IT ANYMORE
Covered by Richie Havens on his Mixed Bag album also by Spider Turner.
3. FACE OF A THOUSAND PEOPLE
Performed on Lightfoot's 1968 CBC-TV special.
4. DIVORCE COUNTRY STYLE*
This one has been played live and was to appear on the aborted
1974 live Massey Hall album as were I believe the other songs shown here with an asterisk.
5. WHERE IS THE NEXT ONE
Out-take from the Summer Side Of Life sessions.
6. NO MORE LONELY NIGHTS
Has been performed live and is an out-take from
Summer Side Of Life.
7. ROCK MY WORLD TO SLEEP
Played live on the 1972 British tour.
8. NITRO JOE
Out-take from the Sundown sessions.
9. PLEASURES OF THE NIGHT*
Has been performed live.
10. TWO CRAZY KIDS
11. MAGIC MINSTREL SHOW
Out-take from the Salute sessions.
the three new songs sung in concert in 2000-2002
and hopefully all to be included in album Twenty
12. NIGHTTIME
13. THE NO HOTEL
14. SHELLFISH
covers of songs by other writers
15. PARTNERS*
Taught to GL by Red Shea. A concert staple throughout the 70'S.
Has been performed live.
16. TENNESSEE STUD*
17. SNOW BLIND FRIEND
18. HAIL HERO Michael Douglas film theme
19. MY LOVE FOR YOU (theme of the Film Harry Tracy)
20. 33rd Of August
This item is the "rarest of the rare!"
21. Ballad In Plain D Very brief version in Bob Dylan Film
Renaldo and Clara
plus two extra Two Tones tracks released as a single in 1962
22. LESSON IN LOVE
23. SWEET POLLY
Quality Records (1395X)
(Recorded as a member of The Two Tones
24. DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY
released as a single in 1963 (In the UK only??)
25. JUST LIKE TOM THUMB'S BLUES flipside of 1965 Ribbon Of Darkness Single
Also flipside of a Spin Spin Golden records single issued much later
26. Auld Lang Syne
CBC television 2000 New Year Show
2 Anthems sung at a sporting event
27. Oh Canada The Canadian National Anthem
28. The Star Spangled Banner United States National Anthem
Not Including Burton Cummings Gord style Maggie May spoof
or any of the 379 tracks on the spoof K-Tel "Gordon Lightfoot sings every song ever written"!!
download/play an mp3 file archived on my site at:- http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/SCTV - Gordon Lightfoot KTEL commercial96.mp3
this makes a grand total of 287+28=315 but as the b said probably as many again stashed away somewhere not all necessarily recorded though



------------------
My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

johnfowles 10-16-2003 10:42 PM

quote:Originally posted by johnfowles:

223+7+12+2+7+28+4+4=287
2.9 This listing does not include a few very significant unreleased songs on the bootleg of the 1974 Massey Hall concerts
plus we now know there should be 11 out of 18 demos Gord made before his illness on the eagerly awaited Twentieth album
That is all I have time for today
But after further consultation at Wayne's "unreleased" page http://www.lightfoot.ca/unreleas.htm
which I know includes some of the songs on 2.9 above
So after I find more time I'll be back with a further list of other known unreleased recordings (Well ones that are known to me anyway)
plus other things like the US and Canadian National Anthems



OK I have reviewed Wayne Francis's list of unreleased songs plus a
few other items I happen to know about

1. DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND FRIENDS
Recorded by Allen-White Trio
2. I CAN'T MAKE IT ANYMORE
Covered by Richie Havens on his Mixed Bag album also by Spider Turner.
3. FACE OF A THOUSAND PEOPLE
Performed on Lightfoot's 1968 CBC-TV special.
4. DIVORCE COUNTRY STYLE*
This one has been played live and was to appear on the aborted
1974 live Massey Hall album as were I believe the other songs shown here with an asterisk.
5. WHERE IS THE NEXT ONE
Out-take from the Summer Side Of Life sessions.
6. NO MORE LONELY NIGHTS
Has been performed live and is an out-take from
Summer Side Of Life.
7. ROCK MY WORLD TO SLEEP
Played live on the 1972 British tour.
8. NITRO JOE
Out-take from the Sundown sessions.
9. PLEASURES OF THE NIGHT*
Has been performed live.
10. TWO CRAZY KIDS
11. MAGIC MINSTREL SHOW
Out-take from the Salute sessions.
the three new songs sung in concert in 2000-2002
and hopefully all to be included in album Twenty
12. NIGHTTIME
13. THE NO HOTEL
14. SHELLFISH
covers of songs by other writers
15. PARTNERS*
Taught to GL by Red Shea. A concert staple throughout the 70'S.
Has been performed live.
16. TENNESSEE STUD*
17. SNOW BLIND FRIEND
18. HAIL HERO Michael Douglas film theme
19. MY LOVE FOR YOU (theme of the Film Harry Tracy)
20. 33rd Of August
This item is the "rarest of the rare!"
21. Ballad In Plain D Very brief version in Bob Dylan Film
Renaldo and Clara
plus two extra Two Tones tracks released as a single in 1962
22. LESSON IN LOVE
23. SWEET POLLY
Quality Records (1395X)
(Recorded as a member of The Two Tones
24. DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY
released as a single in 1963 (In the UK only??)
25. JUST LIKE TOM THUMB'S BLUES flipside of 1965 Ribbon Of Darkness Single
Also flipside of a Spin Spin Golden records single issued much later
26. Auld Lang Syne
CBC television 2000 New Year Show
2 Anthems sung at a sporting event
27. Oh Canada The Canadian National Anthem
28. The Star Spangled Banner United States National Anthem
Not Including Burton Cummings Gord style Maggie May spoof
or any of the 379 tracks on the spoof K-Tel "Gordon Lightfoot sings every song ever written"!!
download/play an mp3 file archived on my site at:- http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/SCTV - Gordon Lightfoot KTEL commercial96.mp3
this makes a grand total of 287+28=315 but as the b said probably as many again stashed away somewhere not all necessarily recorded though



------------------
My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

johnfowles 11-21-2021 01:01 PM

Re: Another Gord Question!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMD3 (Post 94847)
How many GL songs are there in all? This includes unreleased tracks and tracks that he didn't write.

I rsponded


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