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I hope you all take this in the right way...

I have been around awhile here, though I don't post to much, I REALLY enjoy reading all of your posts... Your posts are a TREAT to me....

I have to say there is NOT enough credit given to Char for putting up will all of us. She has been a breath of fresh air for me, and I am sure many of you.

Was a number of years ago that my youngest son Joey, had open heart surgery, and all of you were SO supportive with your prayers, thoughts, and kind words. it meant (and means) so much to me.... I wish you could have all been there the recent times when Joey was able to meet and converse with GL... and Gord was so kind to him... There is NO bigger fan of GL than Joey... (Joey is doing GREAT... 100% normal... growing...I am sure he will be taller than me and I am about six feet....)... This site was so consoling to me when Joey was going thru that surgery... This site meant a lot to me.... and so does Char...

There is NO better Gordon Lightfoot site than this one, and Char is the main reason this site is SO special.

I know Charlene has devoted much time into this site, but I have never heard her once complain.

The only regret that I have, is that it was impossbile for me to meet up with her when GL was in Buffalo a few months ago... Buffalo is only about 5 hours drive time from here... I hope someday I can meet her and give her a big hug....

You know.... I like this site... It is a place for friends to gather... I think about all of the people who visit here and contribute with their posts and pictures... I love them all... but I would bet there are MANY people who visit here that are not members who want to know more about GL, and I am sure they enjoy this site greatly. They enjoy and appreciate the posts and the pictures.

This site is a very special place.... for friends to gather...to learn about GL...to appreciate him.

As many of you know, I have posted a number of pictures here from my recent concert visits... When I am taking those pictures, I am thinking of many of you... I know how much you will appreciate those pics... I know most of you have seen GL in concert, but it is always good to see those pics of this talent....

Gordon Lightfoot is a gift to all of us....

I have been blessed to see him in concert many times (40?), but the biggest treat for me was when I looked him in the eye, a few years ago, and told him how much he has meant to me in my life... How much my life is better because of him.... He really is modest... I wonder if he understands...

And I can honestly say, my life is much better because of this website....

and....

because of Char..

I wonder if Char understands...

Char, I don't say it enough...

Thank you my Dear Charlene... My little Canadien friend...

I do hope we meet someday... and you meet Joey also...

I have a request to you Char... Save a Hug for me....

May God Bless You

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Hear, hear!

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Well Said Wes. We're a wide and varied lot here with one thing in common.
...and Char is indeed wonderful!!!

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Char:

While I have thanked you privately for the kindness and generosity you have displayed here at Corfid, I haven't posted anything to publicly express that sentiment.

So here's my public shout out to you. Thank you so much for everything you do to bring us GL fans together. In addition to being nice, you have integrity and when you give someone your word on something, they can be confident that you will keep it.

While it's true that you are a great moderator, what's also true is that you are a smart, insightful gal with one wicked sense of humor. It's mainly because of you that I am so very glad I stumbled upon this website.

Fondly, redhead

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Very well said Wes. While I often think these things, and comment to Char privately, it is a good time to sing Char's praises in public.
Thank you for all you do Char.

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I don't post often. More of a lurker. I could not agree more with all that has been said here about Char. In a word, Char, thanks.

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Hey Wes,

I don't think you have to worry about ANYBODY taking what you had to say the wrong way.

Great story about your son. Wonderful that he is doing so well.

You're right this is a special place. And Char does an incredible job looking after this site. It's a labour of love, but it does take an enormous amount of time. You are among the hundreds of us who appreciate her efforts.

I hope you get to meet her and give her a hug. Until you do, there are lots of us to give her the message that we do appreciate all that she does.

Brian

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I have looked at Char as the "hostess" of Corfid. I know she didn't start this site, Florian did, but he entrusted it her very capable hands. So, to me, I feel coming on this forum is like going to a party and Char is our hostess. You treat the hostess with respect she deserves, it is her house.
Thanks Wes, for saying something nice about Char instead of bashing her. She deserves another raise.

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I have not been here long, but the tone of this board is friendly and it is interesting and informative to read the posts here. That tone is set by the moderator and she is doing a wonderful job. Thanks, Charlene, for making me feel welcome and keeping things going in such a positive way.

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Thanks Wes, for starting this new thread. Long overdue IMNSHO. Glad to hear Joey is doing so well.

People leave corfid for many reasons, but I am confident on betting the farm that none of the reasons, where it counts, is Char. I rarely read or post anymore but that has nothing to do with her or the way the forum is run. Char does an outstanding job at making everyone feel welcome and lets all ideas flow until they get unnecessarily nasty or inappropriate...and that is part of the duties as Madam Moderator, as thankless as it is. Personally I think she shows far more tolerance and forgiveness than I would. Must be the Canadian thing. lol...nah, it's the Char thing.

Most who find us enjoy corfid for what it is. A place to gather to discuss our love for GL and his music and to share our personal experiences just for the joy of sharing. Without Florian's inspiraton and Char's loving hand, this would not be possible. A Magnificent Outpouring of gratitude to you both.

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It's definitely a Char thing. I'm sure I'm not the only Canadian who would have screamed and quit on the first morning that started with hundreds of spam messages and I'd never be able to get along with so many diverse personalities. (Maybe dealing with toddlers helps develop the patience for the latter.)

So I'd like to add my appreciation for a job very well done!

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When I was lying in the hospital unconscious for a month, Char sent me two pieces of stained glass she'd made: an angel, and a star. I still keep them hanging on my living room picture window. They meant a lot to me then, and still more now.

Thanks for thinking of me, Char.

Cathy

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Very true. Way back when I use to spam the board up with snide, childish threads, she was kind enough to let me back on after I matured a bit. Thank you, Char. :)

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Hey, Brink, I really like your example of Charlene being our hostess and deserving our respect. I notice she always treats newcomers and veterans alike with courtesy and/or fun and/or information. She is the last person who should be on the receiving end of any attitude or tone from the membership, especially when her goodness and generosity are so readily apparent. Thanks for being our fearless leader, Charlene; hope we all have many years together celebrating our shared experiences.

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thanks Char... you're doing a great job, putting up with all us ratbags :)

cant believe i've been here for 10 years!

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Agreed. This forum has an unusually homely atmosphere.

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Yes indeed!

Thanks Char.

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I appreciate the kind words from all of you that are posted here and the many private messages I’ve received. Thank you. I’ve taken a few days to wait until I post a reply.
I have never said or done anything that would be disrespectful on this site. I always imagine if Gordon Lightfoot himself were to read the posts here that he would be pleased and find his fans to be respectful and thoughtful of each other. Sadly, sometimes the personal agendas of some people take over when their misguided, imagined self importance rules over common sense and respect.
Gordon Lightfoot has always exhibited nothing but graciousness and kindness to me and to all the people I know who have had the thrill of meeting him themselves. He has never looked dismayed or bothered when signing autographs or having pictures taken. He is always nothing but charming and friendly. I am not in the know how he really feels or says about those things outside of those “fan moments” however. I only state what I see, have heard and experienced myself. We are not…..um…..friends.
Pictures, hugs, concert stubs, backstage passes, autographs are all little treasures we hold dear with no thought to thoughtlessly toss them away. They represent, to each of us a memorable moment with a special person in our lives. No different than those treasured little art pieces our children made us that still hang on the tree every year, those pictures of our loved pets, or family and friends, some who may be gone from our lives. They are our history and many of them have in some way shaped our lives.
Perhaps silly and dustbin worthy to others but not to us and we don't take kindly those who will so hurtfully and spitefully demean us because they feel otherwise. If that's contrary to how they feel about those things that's just fine but don't come to a forum where fans who feel otherwise come to feel comfortable and welcome with their shared and loving memories and treasures. It’s disrespectful, plain and simple.
I have never in 10 years ever posted a word of my love and admiration (not hero worship) for Gordon Lightfoot or any of the special things he has done for me to brag or make myself feel above anyone. If anyone has ever felt otherwise I can’t help that...I know my intentions are true and honourable.
My heroes are people who give of themselves with selflessness and honour in good and bad times, in dangerous circumstances and times of quiet reflection and words, people fighting for their lives against disease, tyranny, terrorism and hate. NOT a guy with a guitar who sings about them.
I love to share because I know from decades of experience of not ever being near Lightfoot up close and ‘personal’ so to speak, that not all of his fans can experience the things I have or attend some of the fabulous events I can because of where I live. I am lucky to live here and be able to get to the one-off events that Lightfoot might be attending or performing at. I wish all of you could attend too! When I am at these events I think of so many of you and wish you were there with me.
I want everyone to feel like I do so try my best to convey the amazement and thrill I feel. I also want to convey how lovely, kind, humble and generous Gordon Lightfoot is...to give a look into the man he shows himself to be..at least to me and other fans he interacts with as I observe from a distance. I take hours to write up reports, post pics/videos/website links to do this because so many have expressed how much they enjoy them. (doing this also helps ‘cement’ them in my own memory..it’s an age thing I think) I am not a writer by any means but I think my enthusiasm comes though and folks get a real sense of what I was feeling and therefore can feel it themselves.
I don't and have never tried to assume or imply that I know who Gordon Lightfoot is in any other capacity than that of a revered legendary musician admired by a longtime fan. I am not now and never will be an ......um.......old friend. And I don’t lead anyone to believe otherwise. If I were I certainly would not post any calculated little hints either.
I try to make this site as inclusive as I can, to have everyone feel a part of this little group connected though the WWW - So I (and others) inquire about other members’ concert experiences, if they have pictures, stories, memories to share with the rest of us. Many members ask each other for reviews, pictures, shared memories and no insult has ever been taken and no one has ever felt it mandatory. That’s the most absurd thing I’ve heard but it really isn’t the true issue in the trouble that reared its head this past week.
I do home daycare for a living (omigoodness that’s laffable) so am quite used to dealing with the needs of little children who have yet to learn to share, be kind, polite, generous, and empathetic while their very beings scream “me,me,me,me,me,me!” It is expected with them…not so much with “mature” adults though. So this moderator job is quite trying at times. Patience, Canadian or otherwise (or otherworldly!) is required. If it was as easy as hitting “delete” like I can do with SPAM life would be easier. Hundreds of SPAM that need deleting is time consuming but does not suck the very soul out of this place leaving us all bone weary.
Many of us have seen Lightfoot in concert a bazillion times, some just a few, some have never seen him. The same for actually meeting him. But we all love to hear how others feel about the concerts/meetings be they recent or long ago. That's why this forum exists! What the hell would we be here for or talk about if not Gordon Lightfoot ??? - the name at the top of this DISCUSSION page says GORDON LIGHTFOOT in big red letters!!
I remember a few years ago when Wes met Gordon and he had his boys and lovely wife with him I believe. I was in Florida on vacation. He e-mailed me and asked me to call him because he felt so strongly about what he had to tell me about his meeting with Gordon it could only be conveyed with his actual voice on the phone. I'm sure if he lived closer he'd have driven over! We spoke for a long, long time that afternoon. I listened to him speak so eloquently and lovingly about Lightfoot and it was so apparent how much it meant for him to meet Gordon and have his family there with him. Especially young Joey. It meant a lot that he would want to share, so passionately, his feelings with me. And I got a very good tan that afternoon to boot! That’s just one moment that I have had the privilege of having with so many terrific people I know through this forum.
A great many of us here have been through a lot of life’s events, gloriously happy and heartbreakingly tragic, in the past 10 years and I am more than humbled that I have been a part of theirs. Equally important is that they have been there for me during those times of my life as well. Thank you does not even begin to convey my feelings about that.
This is what this place is...a place for sharing positive emotion and passion, not crassness and innuendo and spewing of assumptions and distasteful rhetoric meant to hurt and demean and ridicule. Under no guise is this okay. It just isn't. It's shameful, immature and uncalled for. Period.
I try to stay neutral while being attacked for things I do not say, nor imply. A difference of opinion is always okay – disrespecting the person, even when it is wrapped in what is essentially rhetorical fluff is not.
The people who have contacted me, like you who have posted here, have expressed their disappointment that a few malcontents now and then can take their own agenda and create such chaos and upset on a forum for a most gentle man we all adore.
A couple of months ago during another bit of unwarranted chaos I heard privately from numerous people with encouragement and positive thoughts regarding the ugliness – I appreciate all of that support too.
I didn’t ask or expect to be the moderator here at CORFID, it was through a suggestion from a member (who no longer posts due to the degradation of this site with disrespectful people and their posts) to Florian that I was given the honour of being moderator. Not knowing what the hell the job entailed other than it was non-cash paying, I said ‘Hell yes!’ and here we are 10 years later…LOL
The trade-off of not getting paid in cash is the relationships that have been started, cultivated and cherished. The SHARED love of Gordon Lightfoot and his music has brought so much to my life that I am daily reminded of it. The discovery of so many new artists who perform at the Tribute shows has been a true blessing. The opportunities for so many “Lightfoot” related relationships and events that have come to me are treasured as much as the actual ones that involve Lightfoot himself.
I never ask nor expect anything from Gordon Lightfoot either, other than for him to stand onstage and “do the best with what he’s got.” And we BOTH know it.
I thank all of you again and of course dear Florian for maintaining this Wonderful, Wild and Winsome website for us.
(and you thought WWW meant world wide web! HA!)
CHar
I'll Tag Along - Gordon Lightfoot
You've got time enough for two of us
What is mine I will share
We've got things that we can do without
Most anytime anywhere
Every little daydream that appears in all we do
Gives us some problems of our own
If you turn back to that page again
And you can't win
If you ask me I'll tag along.

Aldous Huxley-1894-1963 - English writer
"Thanks to words, we have been able to rise above the brutes; and thanks to words, we have often sunk to the level of the demons."

(just read that in the paper today....how fortuitous!)

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well written, char. you not only helped us newcomers to understand more about what this site is, but you responded with class to the issues that arose this week. Sometimes it seems that typed messages without physical human interaction can be taken wrong and things get out of hand. I truly hope that all this was just a misunderstanding, for as you said, Gordon seems to be such a gentle man and gentleness on this site is appropriate. Being new, I usually don't feel it is my "place" to comment for I feel i would be intruding on old friendships, but it seems you all have become friends through this site. thank you for clarifying and for being the moderator.

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Don't feel 'new' Lisa! ... that's the great thing about having the love of Lightfoot in common - we're all old friends already even when we 'meet' for the first time..

I know what you mean about the typed word etc.. And I'm sure there have been those instances for all of us somewhere on the internet at some time.

But unfortunately I must say that there was no misunderstanding this past week.

Have a great weekend!

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Very well said, Char!

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Have a great weekend![/quote]


thank you. I plan on competing in a half marathon tomorrow, so I am not sure how "Great" my weekend will be. I am a swimmer, not a land animal, but a friend talked me into this... Yikes. some friend, right?! I will try to have fun! we will see how the old knees feel by noon tomorrow...
have a great weekend too!
lisa

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Good luck with the 1/2 marathon..very impressive! Yeah - with friends like that...lol
The weekend is pretty good so far.
The Leafs (as of this moment) are beating arch rival Montreal Canadiens!
woo-hoo!
Hope Gordon is watching..."ya gotta love The Leafs!".

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Wes,I loved your message so I brought up
a topic that you posted in Small Talk " 11 years ago " this week. ;)

I'm sure you'll recognize it. :)

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I have to disagree with you on one point Char, you are a writer. You write from the heart and with words we can all relate to.

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I have something to say too and that is in regards to the heroes that you mention, Charlene. My father would fall into what you define as a hero, and it is my father who instantly comes to mind at those times when I've become so upset and offended by your posts that are peppered with anti-American sentiment. Have you really no idea how much it hurts and how much pain that brings me? And it makes me feel like you somehow can't understand, have no compassion and don't even want to consider or try to...for how just awful those things you write make me feel.

It is my father and what he went through that comes to mind and overwhelms me when I read that stuff. It makes me feel like you are being disrespectful to the memory of my father and others. And that last thread that got me so upset ...when you mentioned 9-11...I thought about what my friend shared with me about what her husband went through and obviously I became very upset.

There are certainly things that I don't like about you but I always look for the good and best in people when I'm dealing with folk...knowing that nobody's perfect, and the rest is none of my concern as it has nothing to do with me. What I do not like about you that upsets me ...is when you write those things that hurt me so deeply enough with the painful memories that they trigger...enough so that I've lashed out at you in response . How you seem to not care -as if it's my problem alone...if I don't like it or have a problem with it -is inconsiderate. You've never cared to ask me why I get so upset nor apologized for having upset me and that's why I find it to be inconsiderate.

Charlene, it makes me think that you want your word to be gospel and that only you, as moderator have the trying chore and wishing it was so easy to 'delete'...you think we all hang on and adore every word you write??? wtf?? Speaking for myself, I've enjoyed many of your posts but not all of them...and certainly not the one's that upset me!

If you are even in the least alluding to me as one of those of whom you speak of...as having any kind of personal agenda, being misguided, imagined self-importance and all that about common sense, respect ...I'm hoping you're not because that is not even funny considering how far that is from the reality of the situation, with me anyway.

Gordon (a man and his guitar) falls into the category of "hero" for me for his charitable work and worthwhile causes he has lent his support to and his many other accomplishments/achievements.

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I wish I had the delete button.

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Please Char, before you post anything, write anything, say anything - pause for a moment and think if it is going trigger any bad memories for the hundreds of people you don't know and also don't know of their pasts.

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Char, I've never heard any anti-American sentiment from you. In fact, you have taken razzing from me about being a Canadian. It's just part of the banter that goes on in this place. I tease you about being a Canuck... you tease me about being a backwoods Mainer.
Sometimes I think some people feel a post is written with him or her in mind, when if fact, it's just a coincidence, or perhaps a little bit of razzing.

I've met Char on several occasions, and I've never, ever, EVER, seen or heard an instance where she's spoken poorly about anyone.

"I got the paranoia blues from walking around in New York City
Where they roll ya for a nickel, and stick ya for the extra dime
Anyway you choose, you're bound to lose in New York City
Oh, I just got out in the nick of time...."
(Paul Simon)

Cathy

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firstly, i wish you (and ALL members... i mean, who wouldn't?) the very best of health.... with that hopefully understood, try understand this: you dominated this forum with your issues and skewed perceptions during our (all five of us here, lol) entire Canadian Thanksgiving weekend and now as the winter holiday approaches you insert yourself and views in this otherwise entirely pleasant thread...if your views were isolated in one thread it would be easier to say to oneself, "just don't read it"...but you've shown a bubbly positive nature in the past and i guess i read it to hope that person is back, not

i'm sure Americans are very thankful for your dad's and many other's unimaginable contributions...many of us uphold perceive our father's as heroes even if they are not the "kick your ass" type...perhaps might is not right for all

side by side, char and i have exchanged wit and views of the world around us and i can say we've often glorified but also expressed concerns and/or poked fun at fellow Canadians, Americans, Brits, well, there are no exemptions actually...i feel you should try and let your obsession with anti-US 'everything' move along...and feel free to apologize to your fellow members, or at least to any that your have personally attacked with insults...and if they were ever fueled by just not feeling well at that moment then i suggest this strategy: please try to post when you are feeling well and lurk (or simply sign out) when you are not

there are many here who seem to think they would like to dethrone this place and make themselves a better moderator...maybe they should start by being better members

sorry to single you out, but this is just getting too old...besides it's Sunday, a day of rest, please give it one...otherwise i'll continue working on my latest GL song parody...to the tune of Restless...but it's called Relentless...

be well and all the best for 2011:)

btw, char...i also have a disagreement....you're what I would call a friend of Lightfoot:)

thanks you so much, char! ....and, in advance, thank you so much, pam!

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Happy 3,500th post James!
please refer to previous posts from Ron about prizes...
lol
and THANK YOU..
;)

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I forgot about your love for all things "Paul Simon." Thanks for the reminder.
You really have to head up here in May. The jam with you sitting in would be great..Lots of new folks will love to see you sing and play. And James can make a new Friends of Lightfoot video!
c'mon up!
I'll vouch for you at the border...

;)

Say Hi to Hazel for me...I still have that magnet with her painting on it - right where I put it years ago - on the metal surround on my fireplace downstairs where the magic happened that May day in 2001...

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[QUOTE=jj;167753] i'll continue working on my latest GL song parody...to the tune of Restless...but it's called Relentless...
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I'd love to hear it - will there be album art too?
;)

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I remember parts of the magic day in May 2001, but I have no idea about a magnet that Mom painted. What did she paint on it? Spark my memory, would ya?

Cathy

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It's a beautiful ocean scene.. it's about 5 x 6 inches big. You gave it to me.
Your mum is a wonderful artist..Your CD cover is but one example. http://cathycowette.com/music.asp
I got a lot of lovely mementoes that day..I still have every one.

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I am just being honest -that's how I take it and how it makes me feel. Even if it's not intended that way, it's hard to see because it's something that I am sensitive about. If you don't understand this, I wish you could at least please respect my feelings. I wish you wouldn't think of it as a skewed perception. I'm well aware that people joke around and tease about nationalities, etc., and I sometimes do that among friends that I'm comfortable doing that with in all good fun, but I wouldn't be insensitive about it or not considerate if I know they make take offense, etc., to it.

I apologized to Charlene about all I wrote and why it was particularly upsetting to me at that time. But I was deeply offended and insulted about the redneck comments @Toby Keith and so much else in that thread. I didn't like that but should have kept it to myself so I apologize to everyone about that. In grad school...I studied nationalism (and under some of the leading experts in this field of study) so I follow a different school of thought on the subject that many here may not be familiar with, but that shouldn't be something I have to apologize for. I would like to think that someone could respect that...even if they don't understand it or think of it as a skewed perception.

I'm well aware that my illness can cause me to become easily upset, agitated, etc. It has become a little easier for me to keep it in check on my own as my condition has improved for short times. I rely on a medication that controls my entire metabolism and my doctor often prescribes too much or too little...which both go along with a host of symptoms that I have no control over, like my heart rate, blood pressure and blood sugar. I've been on a new dose for a couple of weeks and feel pretty good (not bubbly yet, sorry jj) all is fine except my heart rate is too high and I can't do a thing about it. I have to wait to have blood work in a week and 1/2 and go from there!

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Pam, you obviously were the only person to take offense. My dad was in the service for years, killed a lot of people in the name of the US - I didn't take offense to what Char said. I take care of Vets, I still didn't take offense, I live in the US and didn't take offense. Maybe - just maybe you are way too sensitive. Next time your meds aren't working right for you instead of posting on Corfid try posting on www.bitchoftheday.com

Now back to a VERY pleasant, well deserved post about our moderator.

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I know that I will regret this, but the educator in me couldn't let the misconcepts go without comment.

Please explain to me why Char, or anyone, should have to respect YOUR feelings when posting perfectly reasonable comments or quoting another source on a PUBLIC forum especially since, as you say, "follow a different school of thought on the subject that many here may not be familiar with". How the heck are we supposed to give consideration for something we are not familiar with?

On second thought...no, please don't explain.

Also, stop alluding to your perfectly common condition like it is some medical mystery. Geeze Louise woman, you have a thyroid condition. Do you know how many people have that? No, you probably don't because they don't go around acting like self-centered egomaniacs (re-read your posts and count how many "I"s and references to personal experiences are in them to support your misplaced indignation).

So you don't have control over your heart rate/blood pressure/blood sugar (however, I have both personal and professional knowledge of thyroid conditions and beg to differ with your statement.) but you do have control over your behavior. On the occasion that a thyroid condition causes the kind of personality changes you are trying to explain away, you wouldn't be capable of typing on the internet. Instead, you should be calling 911. It's called a Thyroid Storm. It can be deadly and is RARE. Look it up. Everything else is very manageable if you want it to be. Ask me, I've been there as was my mother and grandmother. When I do go off in a rant, I don't blame my thyroid or any of my health conditions. I take full accountability for choosing to rant but more often I choose to walk away.

So I would echo the advice that many here have given....on any given day if your "condition" is making you "easily upset, agitated, etc", do yourself a favor...be a responsible adult and stay away from public forums. Come back when you are feeling better.

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Well I can accept and respect the viewpoint of another without having to agree to or understand or even like it. What's so hard about that? And to answer your question...it's something called mutual respect.

How do you know that I have a perfectly common thyroid condition? Obviously if you have that much knowledge you would know that there are different types and some are rare and more difficult to treat. Manageable if I want it to be? I wish I were among the lucky ones who could. Or could tolerate the medication that's needed. I can manage antibodies? Really? Please tell me how? Did you have radiation...twice? A tumor? Nodules? And when my heart rate jumps unexpectedly...I can control this? If I thought you had any clue about this, I would ask you for advice. Actually, I was taking a beta-blocker "as needed" but a cardiologist advised me not to because I could have a heart attack unless I take it everyday. And I can't because of the side effects. You seem be a very narrow-minded person to even assume that I have the same common condition as you and others in your family.

So what else should or shouldn't I do besides stay away from public forums because I have an illness? And should I check with you for your approval to see if I'm well enough to post on a public forum when I'm "feeling better"?

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Good God, Pam just shut up. Delete your posts and respect this nice thread that Wes started.