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apologies for the typo in subject heading.

Sean, were you looking for one?


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quote:Originally posted by SilverHeels:
_Click here: eBay item 3726494187 (Ends 04-Jun-04 14:05:29 BST) - MARTIN
> D-18 GL ''GORDON LIGHTFOOT'' SIGNATURE *NEW*_
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(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...87&category=23
85&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:UK:1#ebayphot
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apologies for the typo in subject heading.

Sean, were you looking for one?


[This message has been edited by SilverHeels (edited May 29, 2004).]


It's only for UK bidders.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...87&category=23

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com


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THANK YOUSO MUCH!!!!
Sean

quote:Originally posted by searam:
THANK YOUSO MUCH!!!!
Sean
well Sean if you are indeed interested in getting D18GL number 57 I would suggest that you discount Cathy's pointing out that
"It's only for UK bidders" as the seller was referring only to "posting" in the UK.
However they are then referring to £15 postage by Interlink which is in efect a UK franchised version of FedEx for overnight deliveries and I don't thihk postage/posting is therefore a good description, One thought as the seller is in the UK you could if you really are intending to go to GordfestUK04 get one of the rich UK Lightheads to bid and buy it for you to collect later. So ask Bruna/silverheels if she'd oblige!!
Just trying to help!!



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On second thoughts I see that the seller is a dealer in Cardiff in Welsh Wales so Sean you could contact Mair who, lives there and save all the "postage".
One oddity although this is listed at ebay uk
and all UK GL items usually appear on the main ebay.com listing at:- http://ebaylightfoot.shorturl.com
this particular auction does not so perhaps bidding is somehow restricted to the UK
in this case.Does anyone know for sure??

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I don't think my last post went through. In case it did not, I just wanted to say how wonderful everyone is on this site! Thanks to you all!
Sean

quote:Originally posted by johnfowles:
On second thoughts I see that the seller is a dealer in Cardiff in Welsh Wales so Sean you could contact Mair who, lives there and save all the "postage".
One oddity although this is listed at ebay uk
and all UK GL items usually appear on the main ebay.com listing at:- http://ebaylightfoot.shorturl.com
this particular auction does not so perhaps bidding is somehow restricted to the UK
in this case.Does anyone know for sure??



John,
I am SO grateful you did not include my credit card details in your earlier post! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
On a serious note, I will check with the seller and report back. If you are seriously interested, Sean, he may deal with you. I'll report back.

quote:
On a serious note, I will check with the seller and report back. If you are seriously interested, Sean, he may deal with you. I'll report back.[/B]

Sean,

I just received the following from the seller.

<<Hi

Yeah we could sell it to someone in the U S

Regards

Rich (guitar department)>>

If you are interested, send an email.

This 2565 GBP converts to $4701. Frankly, given that shipping it here - or carrying it back - presents costs (don't forget customs) and complications, I think you'd be better off consider the one that Jim Holler has for sale at $5000. I am not pushing his; just making an observation. A 10% customs tax adds $470 all by itself. Remember, most of the resales in the past two years have been in the $4400 to $5000 range - tending toward the middle of that range. Only one guitar has been clearly documented as selling for more, and nobody has bought one for less in the past couple of years (that I know of). If you want one, I'd say $4700 to $5000 is the best you will see and holding out for the lower price might result in no guitar at all. There are only 61 of them out there, and probably only 20% of those are likely to change hands.

Just my 2 cents.

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This price, in the UK, seems like good value to me, it represents a 2.6% increase in the price I paid in January 2002.

Here is a thought, the price quoted will include VAT @ 17.5% an overseas buyer would not have to pay this, so knock 15% off the price quoted, this gives the approximate price before VAT is added. After all once the dealer has sold the thing he will have to give that amount to the government, so It will not make any difference to him.

Just a thought.

Thanks, everyone! I have emailed the seller and am waiting on a response. At least there are two for sale on the planet! I would like to know how this special model actually sounds. I have many acoustics, and if you play three of the same model, each one is slightly different. Does anyone else find that to be true? I am buying a Martin, and while having Gord's model would be the ultimate trip, it still must sound special. I played a David Crosby model, basically the same appointments, and it sounded like crap! It looked good, though! Any opinions???
Sean

quote:Originally posted by searam:
I would like to know how this special model actually sounds. I have many acoustics, and if you play three of the same model, each one is slightly different. Does anyone else find that to be true? I am buying a Martin, and while having Gord's model would be the ultimate trip, it still must sound special. I played a David Crosby model, basically the same appointments, and it sounded like crap! It looked good, though! Any opinions???
Sean

It sounds great! You must have tried a badly set up David Crosby. That is a nice model too. I have heard mine and Derek's, and both are wonderful (he plays his a lot more so it's undoubtedly more opened up, but mine sure sounds good). Derek has jammed with another friend who has one too, so I guess we can speak for three of them!

Several friends of mine bought one on resale, and none of them were disappointed. No guarantees, of course. I know of two people who were unhappy with the guitar; both had purchased them from a dealer. One has sold it; the other kept it and has perhaps solved his problems with better setup. But a guitar is a personal thing, and no guitar is perfect for everybody.

I can say that one very talented D-18 player who shall be nameless said the D-18GL was the best sounding D-18 he had ever played. He was playing mine. (But I'm sure there are vintage D-18s out there that sound even better ... if you can afford $25,000 or so).



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Valerie Magee

Visit my business site at mageenet.biz and Cathy Cowette's web site at cathycowette.com

Thanks for the input. The D-18DC I played was probably not set up right. It had the burled walnut back/sides, but it sounded absolutely pathetic. I am still waiting for the return email from the U.K. dealer. I'll let you know.
Thanks,
Sean

Sean
Mine was great the day I got it,and even better now.I went and got an almost new D-18V a while back and although it is as nice to play as the Gordy,soundwise,it just don't have it yet.
I too also talked to a very talented Man that has one,and He play's a lot of Gord's stuff..Might even be the same Guy that was playing Val's..He told me that His sounded so good that He thought He might start using it all the time.....

quote:Originally posted by vlmagee:

I can say that one very talented D-18 player who shall be nameless said the D-18GL was the best sounding D-18 he had ever played. He was playing mine.



Oh yes, Val! I remember that night! He couldn't keep his hands off of it. Too funny. He'd pick it up, play for a time, put it down, then couldn't resist so he'd pick it up again, play some more, put it down, over and over and over again.

Great memory, thanks for reminding me with your comment. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Diane

Sean,
Are You sure it was a D-18 with walnut back and sides? All the D-18's that I know of use mahogoney for the back and sides and sitka spruce for the top's..Maybe that's why it did'nt sound so good?
Brian

Sorry, I meant mahogany.
Sean

quote:Originally posted by Sundown17:
Oh yes, Val! I remember that night! He couldn't keep his hands off of it. Too funny. He'd pick it up, play for a time, put it down, then couldn't resist so he'd pick it up again, play some more, put it down, over and over and over again.

Great memory, thanks for reminding me with your comment. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Diane



The same person also fell madly in love with my old D-15 and wouldn't give it back to me. He kept saying, "What a great guitar! I've got to get me one of these."
A few days later, I tried to scrape his skin cells off my guitar and clone him so I'd have my very own lead guitarist, but it didn't work, dammit.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

Sean, I love my D18-GL. It has crisp higher end tones and a rich full lower end. I had a chance to talk to Gord shortly after I received it and he said it will "come in" with some time. After about 6 months it did exactly that. Also, Gord said to use the "Ball medium lights" on it and man do they make a difference. Actual strings are "Ernie Ball medium lights." Hope it works out for you and if you have any other questions let me know. This is my first post and I have followed this board for awhile and appreciate all the good information I have received. Thanks, #11 Curtis

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[This message has been edited by #11 (edited June 09, 2004).]

Thanks, #11. I am emailing the seller in the U.K., but may pursue Val's friend and his D-18GL. I am glad to hear that all who have resonded think the tone is best! So often, you play 3-4 guitars of the same model, and they all sound different.
Sean

Hi all
I have just purchased the aforementioned #57.
Didn't think I'd ever see one in the UK let alone become a very proud owner!
It looks feels and sounds great!
I've been playing Gord's fantastic songs in folk clubs around the UK since 1970 on my old USA Harmony Sovereign.
My biggest regret is that I haven't seen him in concert. I believe the last time he toured here was in the mid-seventies but pulled out of the tour before getting to my hometown.
Regards to all other D-18GL owners!

Mal B

I'd never be able to afford one and since I don't play or have the inclination to it would be wasted in my possesion. But I am jealous! Welcome to the group and congrats to you on your find! If you look under the Brit Lighthead gathering Bru and Gaby are putting together a convention maybe you and your new purchase would attend.

quote:Originally posted by brink:
I'd never be able to afford one and since I don't play or have the inclination to it would be wasted in my possesion. But I am jealous! Welcome to the group and congrats to you on your find! If you look under the Brit Lighthead gathering Bru and Gaby are putting together a convention maybe you and your new purchase would attend.

Brink,
this explains your post over at the UK Gathering thread. Duh! Thanks for guiding the lost Brits in my direction.
Why dont you come join us ... still no date confirmed as yet. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

What a great thought, hmmmm.

Hey I have one right here!
http://www.elderly.com/new_instrumen...front-view.jpg

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#11,
Thank's for the tip on the ernie ball med. lights.Though I did'nt try them yet on my GL,I put them on the V and I do like them. they do make a difference.I ordered a couple set's from a local dealer and payed $8.00 a set,which I was not happy about.
Anyway,I thought I would pass this along to You and any other picker's that might be interested in the best place I've found for strings. larry@toorelaxed.com I just recieved my second order from him today,4 sets of the E.B.med.lights $4.19/set and only $2.25 shipping..I've seen good prices for strings from other dealers,but most of them charge like $5.00 for shipping.Just thought I would pass this along....

Brian

Wow! I thought $8 was cheap!

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quote:Originally posted by burntstump:
Valerie Magee started a list of owners on her GL website, maybe she can help track down the origin.

Hi Burntstump. I have you down as #58, so one can surmise that perhaps #57 was the other one shipped at about the same time. However, I know nothing of its origin having never heard from the previous owner. And I have a third UK D-18GL, #14.

Mal B, if you'd like to write to me with your full name, I'd appreciate it. Although I have discontinued my Lightfoot site, I am still maintaining my list of D-18GL owners and hope someday to have all of them (I can hope), and to share the information at least with all of the other interested owners. Mine is #22.



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Visit my business site at mageenet.biz, Hamilton Camp's Offical Web Site at hamiltoncamp.com , and Cathy Cowette's web site at cathycowette.com]. Also visit Dr. Jack's Lightfoot page.

quote:Originally posted by burntstump:
Hi Valerie

How many D18GL owners have you managed to trace?

At the moment I know the owners of those listed below:

Prototypes 1 and 2, 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15, 21 (sunburst), 22 (me), 23, 24, 26, 29, 30, 35, 37, 38, 41 (original owner only), 42, 43, 44, 47, 49, 52, 53, 57, 58, 61 (lefty).

I know the original owner of 41, but don't know who he sold it to. I also have three other names; in one case, I just forgot to get the number and don't have the email address handy. The other two are people I don't know personally, but was told by a third party that they had the guitar. I was never able to verify either of those (both are people in the music business). So at the moment, I know the identity of 29 owners (of the 61, or 31 of 63), plus the two that I haven't been able to verify. I'm about halfway there ...

Prototype 1 was sent to Lightfoot, but arrived damaged. Martin replaced it with Prototype 2, and kept Prototype 1 for themselves instead after repairing it. It is on display in their museum.



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Visit my business site at mageenet.biz, Hamilton Camp's Offical Web Site at hamiltoncamp.com , and Cathy Cowette's web site at cathycowette.com. Also visit Dr. Jack's Lightfoot page.

quote:Originally posted by burntstump:
Hi Valarie

Any more news on the list of guitars, did the guy in the UK contact you?

Funny you should bring it up. Must be ESP or something. I was just working on it yesterday. Sad to say, the latest version of the list was a victim of my hard drive crash last summer. The only backup I could find was more than a year old (it was not in one of the directories I backed up pretty regularly). I hadn't been able to face the task of trying to reconstuct it. I only lost 3 weeks of email, so theoretically I could find everyone that wasn't in the old version of the list.

I hadn't remembered posting the list of numbers here, so thank you for bringing this topic to the top. I see that I am missing 2 or 3 still. It's frustrating! (Update: I found the information so I'm up to date). I did get one more number just this morning, from someone I knew had one but I didn't have the number, and I confirmed that one of the people in the entertainment business that I was told had one actually did (JP Cormier, a Canadian singer/songwriter). I reached one of his representatives who comfirmed that he had the guitar, but didn't know the number. Hopefully I'll get it, but she kept asking why I wanted to know ...

Anyhow, I'll keep working at it. I don't think I ever did hear from the owner of #57. I think I'd remember ... (uh, where did I put my coffee cup?).

Here's a picture of JP Cormier with his D-18GL from his web site:

http://www.jp-cormier.com/gallery/NEdmFolkFest2002.jpg

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Visit my business site at mageenet.biz, Hamilton Camp's Offical Web Site at hamiltoncamp.com , and Cathy Cowette's web site at cathycowette.com. Also visit Dr. Jack's Lightfoot page.

[This message has been edited by vlmagee (edited November 27, 2004).]

quote:Originally posted by searam:
Thanks, everyone! I have emailed the seller and am waiting on a response. At least there are two for sale on the planet! I would like to know how this special model actually sounds. I have many acoustics, and if you play three of the same model, each one is slightly different. Does anyone else find that to be true? I am buying a Martin, and while having Gord's model would be the ultimate trip, it still must sound special. I played a David Crosby model, basically the same appointments, and it sounded like crap! It looked good, though! Any opinions???
Sean


HI Sean,
From a "collectable" point of view the guitar may be worth $5,000.00 but from a players point of view it is not. You can get a great sounding stock D-18 anywhere for about $1500-1600. have played the D-18GL. It is a nice guitar but unnless you are buying it as an expensive collectable, it is way overpriced for the (good but not extraordinary) guitar you will get. Just a players point of view. No way that plays like a 5 grand guitar!
Bill Hall

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quote:Originally posted by burntstump:
Hi Valarie

I know the owner of # 57, I should be able to get him to contact you in the next couple of weeks.

Great, thanks! As you can see from my update to my message (above), I have reconstructed my list from my emails. And found the picture of JP Cormier too.



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Valerie Magee

Visit my business site at mageenet.biz, Hamilton Camp's Offical Web Site at hamiltoncamp.com , and Cathy Cowette's web site at cathycowette.com. Also visit Dr. Jack's Lightfoot page.

quote:Originally posted by talbot10:

HI Sean,
From a "collectable" point of view the guitar may be worth $5,000.00 but from a players point of view it is not. You can get a great sounding stock D-18 anywhere for about $1500-1600. have played the D-18GL. It is a nice guitar but unnless you are buying it as an expensive collectable, it is way overpriced for the (good but not extraordinary) guitar you will get. Just a players point of view. No way that plays like a 5 grand guitar!
Bill Hall



Hate to argue with a good friend, and I suppose I can agree that it may not sound like a $5000 guitar, but it sounds different and (to most people) better than a stock D-18. There are enough differences in the construction, including the use of different woods, to affect the sound. Most people think it's distinctly better. (Terry Clements said it was the best sounding D-18 he had ever played, and reminded us that he has played Gordon's). I don't argue that the $5000 price adds something for collectible value, but the guitar is better than a stock D-18. Really. (And I do know whose D-18GL you played).



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Valerie Magee

Visit my business site at mageenet.biz, Hamilton Camp's Offical Web Site at hamiltoncamp.com , and Cathy Cowette's web site at cathycowette.com. Also visit Dr. Jack's Lightfoot page.

quote:Originally posted by vlmagee:
Hate to argue with a good friend, and I suppose I can agree that it may not sound like a $5000 guitar, but it sounds different and (to most people) better than a stock D-18. There are enough differences in the construction, including the use of different woods, to affect the sound. Most people think it's distinctly better. (Terry Clements said it was the best sounding D-18 he had ever played, and reminded us that he has played Gordon's). I don't argue that the $5000 price adds something for collectible value, but the guitar is better than a stock D-18. Really. (And I do know whose D-18GL you played).





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quote:Originally posted by vlmagee:
Hate to argue with a good friend, and I suppose I can agree that it may not sound like a $5000 guitar, but it sounds different and (to most people) better than a stock D-18. There are enough differences in the construction, including the use of different woods, to affect the sound. Most people think it's distinctly better. (Terry Clements said it was the best sounding D-18 he had ever played, and reminded us that he has played Gordon's). I don't argue that the $5000 price adds something for collectible value, but the guitar is better than a stock D-18. Really. (And I do know whose D-18GL you played).





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quote:Originally posted by talbot10:




Otay ...... Spanky!

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