To stay motivated is correct. Bravo to you, Suzi. can you think of one to post now? If you can please do. Anything regarding Gordon Lightfoot.

Okay, here's an easy one. What is the shortest Gord song on album? (timewise)

Fading Away - just a guess - "Oh Linda" ?
-for shortest song ? Geo Steve

Is it Unsettled Ways, 1:51 ?

Jessi-Joe,

re: the origin of my name geodeticman.

Note: quick answer marked with an " * " asterisk. Its about the third paragraph below starting with *

Thank you for asking Jessi-Joe.

Last time I answered this in depth, and its a deep subject, an old room member happened to enter after apparently an extended absence right after I posted a long-winded response clouded by still rough writing from a head-injury I recover from these days, and it upset him so much he, to my knowledge, left the forum, muttering "techo-babble b.s."... grouse grouse.. LOL. SO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

If anyone is bored by or not interested in a viable answer to Jessi-Joe's question, simply skip the rest of this post, after the one-line definition coming up. I understand. Its a geeky subject. Its rare that people ask us about it.... (as I push my glasses up my nose) LOL

* Geodetic Surveying and or Geodesy (The study of) definition:
Is simply the study and measurement of the size, shape (of the whole earth, and local topography), and gravity variations of large portions of the earth's surface.

There !
If more is of interest, read on, my friend !

On the other hand, a rather interested current member who is quite sharp asked as to the obvious word that comes to mind - "geodesic (dome,other,etc.)", as in Buckminster Fuller's chained trilaterals and quadrilalerals that are still in principle used as one model for geodetic survey network structures over large portions of the earth's surface. The actual geodesic structures et al he showed very interesting pictures of were fascinating. While the words are intrinsically related, the applications are very differerent.

In short, the subject of Geodesy is defined loosely as the study of the size, shape, and gravitational variations of the earth. And, a "geodesist" is one who historically made ultra-long distance surveying observations of 30 - 40 miles per set-up, to targets often at night, and had to allow for earth curvature, atmospheric refraction, clean/dirty-air optical constants, gravimetric measurements and a local, continental, or worldwide gravity model to adjust to etc., and use the information to adjust into control networks for establishing map-making postitional frameworks.

I used to do this "geodetic surveying" hence "geodeticman" and then moved into the mapping end of aerial and satellite imagery as a basis for mapmaking, or "cartography". The modern usage of Geodesy is almost exclusiveley using GPS units (the professional $20,000 - $50,000 units) and available to hikers at an amateur level, i.e. the $100 - $400 handheld units( you know, hand-held coordinate readers tying in to satellites). The pro-models real work begins after simple readings, and rigorous math network adjustment models are excuted.

Gravity and math intensive network adjustments are still done for ultra-high precision geodetic control marked by monuments such as brass markers, benchmarks, other types, etc.. We rarely make measurements from continent to continent using older VLBI - very long based interferometry. This is to measure continental drift.

Newer satellite networks now caled glonass allow for better coverage with GPS e.g. "more bars" and hilarious manufacturer claims of hand-held units and resultant map displays on screen being accurate to +/- 1 meter or less, and in fact to achieve these values, one must apply numerous network adjustments in three dimensions, including gravimetric models.

Interesting to note up there in Canada where you are Jessi-Joe, the role of Surveyor is one who has passed (post-university) a rigorous examination and is then licenced as being a "Royally Chartered Surveyor" historically by the Queen's commisions...now a common Government regulatory commission, and is frequently referred to as a Chartered "Geodesique" in French-Canadian parlance.

In rigorous schooling required to be licensed in your country, University programs you have up there in "Geomatics" and combinations of geodetic surveying and map-making, and GIS - map information systems bring all these subjects together. From map projections math, to field surveying, to GPS, to cartography.

In the US, our universities are still catching up to your lauded integrated educational model of all the mapping sciences, including geographers, - the generalists. I hope that helps J-Joe. And I am sorry indeed if this tongue-wagging was too much for the general discussion forum - really. :) but... you asked ! :) LOL

Oh ! one more thing, - it was Royally-Chartered Geodesiques (surveyors) that guided the precise alignment of the Canadian Railroad, e.g. CRT. And our comrade Borderstone may not realize that in New England in particular, cut stones were used to bury and mark above ground for posterity the location of (one hopes) professionally -aurveyed boundaries.

Also, in the 13 original colonies, as farmers cleared stones from their fields, they would build low stone walls demarcating one hopes their actual boundary of their property. Lot of history in this stuff.

The height of this subject reached a Renaissance of sorts in America in the 1920's when under Roosevelt Sr.'s admin., licensed surveyors were empowered as "court de jour" and settled legal boundary conflicts, water and mineral rights, etc. on the ground, on the spot, as court. OK OK I better sign off for now. Thanks for asking J-Joe.
- geo steve

Thanks geodeticman, that explains it. So I will just call you Steve... Jessi- Joe. :D :D

Yep. That's the one I was thinking of. :)

Very Good, Fading Away. :)


Next Quiz: What did Gordon say is favorite Guitar Chord was? This of course is for the guitar buffs out there. Good Luck!!! :) :rolleyes: :D ;)

I believe he said the D9 chord was his favorite as it can be played with only one finger! :)
Primary chord played on "A Painter Passing Through."


Next question:

What was the name of the song GL used to do in concert in the 1970s that dealt with cannibalism?

What was the name of the song GL used to do in concert in the 1970s that dealt with cannibalism?

Partners

That is correct Doug. Gordon said he learned that song from Red Shea. Does anyone know who wrote the tune? I confess I do not so I'm hoping someone has the answer...

Gordon's favorite guitar chord is, "A". It can also be played with one finger. Maybe closetcanadian you heard him say D9, also? But the one I heard was the A chord. For the sake of having 'Peace.' Lets just say he's got 2 favorite guitar chords. JJ. :) :D ;)

The A chord primary used to play, Restless, Morning Glory, and many many more. It's a beautiful chord, my favorite has always been the "D" chord. Beginning to CRT.


I haven't got the answer for who wrote, 'Partners.' Maybe someone will?

[ June 08, 2006, 06:27: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

Next Quiz.

In 1989-90, Marilyn MacKay interviewed our beloved Poet Genius. He told her the first song that he wrote, when being very young, was about what?? :D

HINT: It was about some invention, and they sold them by the millions. It was the ?/ craze. :rolleyes: :eek:

Pretty sure our Charlady, probably knows this one. But yet again, I might be wrong??? JJ. :)

[ June 08, 2006, 06:29: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

Jessi-Joe - and all guitar players out there:

I own a yamaha classical guitar and in High School waaayyy long ago took lessons from a friend-girl unfortunately not girl-friend as I'd of preferred. I spent most of my time looking at her, but did pick up here and there a few orts.

One such I ask of the gang here who really knows pickin' : she said Gord's music is full of "minor sevens", particularly D-minor 7, if I remember her correctly. Was she right ? I know that when I played a few of these chords, I could definately here some pertinent riffs from several defining songs of GL's "sound", or feel. Was she correct ?
geo Steve

p.s. Jessie-Joe, calling me Steve as you requested is sure fine; however as it was pointed out to me, there are several Steve's in the forum, not always present. Frequent though is Sydney Steve. For this reason, you may wish to use the group's habit of calling me Geo- steve, or "geo", or some such you'll see at times, g-man is ruled out though by another member who goes by that. I am ambivolent on the Q, but the precedent exists prior to your kind request. I'm cool with anything pertinent. :)
geo Steve

Geo-steve sounds good to me. D-minor. Among many more. Just go to www.lightfoot.ca Thats the Wayne Francis site devoted to Gordon. Once there, click to find Lyrics & Chords. Every song is there, and if you want you can check the guitar chords for each and everyone of them. Lots of A, Am, D, Dm , etc...JJ. :)

[ June 08, 2006, 08:14: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

hula-hoops

[ June 08, 2006, 11:49: Message edited by: brink- ]

Yes brink it is the hoola-hoops. Great, good for you . Can you now please post one? I have one for later, as I dont have time right now. Thanks JJ.

an easy one

what did Gord almost leave in the glove box of a rented car?

lyrics for carefree hiway....

what was Gord doing one hallowe'en evening about 12 years ago?

lol

giving out candy to trick or treaters at his home ?

Bill :)

He was waiting for trick & treaters, while strumming his guitar at his Rosedale mansion.

Urban legend has it that he was quietly sitting outside his house holding treats and hoping that Charlene and her kids would get lost
OK the really hard ones are coming now
whilst trying to find a suitable graphic (and phoning England brink snuck in and stole my thunder
I doubt if any Lighthead has ever heard it (or ever will for that matter) but it is pretty well known I taught that the craze was as demonstrated below by a svelte younger Omer
I won't spell it out because the word before "hoop" I just found may be spelt two ways:either with a "u" or a double "o"
http://www.ebullpen.com/templates/Us..._hula_hoop.gif

In 1976, Gord did Olympic Team Benefit,w/ Murray McLauclhan, Sylvia Tyson, and Liona Boyd. Murray was wearing a Maple Leafs Jersey, And when Lightfoot introduced him to the crowd, he said "Doesn't he look like ??

Good luck!!!

Darryl Sittler