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funny, i thought the same thing about those lips when i was watching the video....

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How could you not? !
lol

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agreed and indeed!

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one reason i really like this live version of SSOL, is 'cos i was never keen on the wallofsound choral "ahhhhs" found on the studio recording

similarly, i was never a Fan of the "take or pick or lick a potata" cadence either in studio or live and would have instead enjoyed Red providing his own rhythmic instrumental backdrop for that segment...all the more reason i really like the arrangement JP Cormier came up with...all that aside, TIYS is a real fave of mine

i'd like to have heard a version of It's Too Late, He Wins minus the doowops

speaking of lips, Gord has terrific and expressive command during his Steel Rail yodels

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has anyone got a DVD copy that plays in an NTSC player?

can the .VOBs be converted using some sort of freeware?

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That caterwalling ruined SSOL for me also. This is much, MUCH better.

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NOT AVAILABLE IN MY AREA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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watch it on the youtube links earlier in the thread...

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caterwauling, lol...i could also do without the organ, especially in the verses

ok, back to the outstanding concert:


love The Highwayman (Noyes) reference before Miguel

http://www.youtube.com/user/gordonli.../2/yKSSsZJuMVk


...here's Ochs version of that poem, 5 years earlier:




regarding Red: i don't think i've seen live footage of a guitarist, of any sort, looking so unaware that he's playing an instrument...it's SO great to see (well, almost) live footage capturing these now historic leads


http://www.youtube.com/user/gordonli.../1/1i67aVJQp0k

...this should have been a 2 hour concert...make that 3

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I loved his mention of Kris Kristofferson after Bobby McGee - "written by a dear friend that you're going to hear about pretty soon, if you haven't already heard of him. He's from Nashville, his name is Kris Kristofferson. He wrote that song.....and then he says, "If I didn't write the song I'll tell ya, ok folks?"
lol
He sings so DAMN effortlessly in this show..

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good one, char....i meant to ask what each's fave intro or between song banter was

i suppose the unanimous least fave goes to the 'shake the father's hand' groaner

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This has nothing to do with the music, but I'm still curious. On the very front of GL's 12 string in this show there's a little circle picture of a smiling child.
Can't tell if it's a girl or a boy at a distance. Anyone want to solve the mystery?

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You can also try to see if your dvd player can be 'converted' to mult-region player.

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks

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That sticker was on that guitar for a long time.

I believe that natural B-45-12 was stolen, and replaced with the famous cherry sunburst, of which he now has two, both refinished.

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the strange yuoungun said as a brilliantly smple tutorial or guide

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngstranger (Post 170281) 1. You need the little torrent file. This is what everybody has been sharing around.

Yes young man burnng a vob file directly to a DVD only creates a Data DVD (in the same way that copying audio (wav) files to a blank CD creates a Data CD)
the vob files are the largest prt of the downloaded folder VIDEO_TS
Mr Google's first result when asked:
how to burn a dvd from video_ts folder was
http://www.gromkov.com/faq/faq2004-0026.html
a full tutorial to do just that
How do I burn a video_ts (.bup and .ifo) folder to a watchable DVD? How to burn VIDEO_TS to DVD?
Hey, got a question. I downloaded the 4.7 gb dvd of Kill Bill and i got this: a video_ts folder containing VTS_01_1, VTS_01_2, VTS_01_3, VTS_01_4, VIDEO_TS.bup, VIDEO_TS.ifo, VIDEO_TS_01_0.bup, VIDEO_TS_01_0.ifo.
How do I burn this to a watchable DVD with all of the menus and stuff in place? Thanks.
Answer:
You can burn your VIDEO_TS to DVD with freeware tool ImgBurn.

I was very pleased to find this answer because I had recently found and very sucessfully used Imgburn when faced with the need to burn a DVD from a single ISO image file
But had I not realised that it could also create a DVD from a video_ts folder as downloaded for the 1972 concert DVD.Instead I had burnt a DVD using the otherwise excellent Aussie Express Burn that I highly recommend for burning gapless concert audio CDs. But I had noted error mesages and sure enough the resultant DVD does not play in all of my DVD players but plays fine with full rich sound in my secondary DIVX certified DVD player and had the downloaded files had no sound when played in Windows Media Player on my PC.
I had then burnt a coaster using the usually dependable Nero.
Both it and the Expess Burn one would not load in our main DVD player but only indicated "stop" not very helpful at all.

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well I have tried Nero,Ashampoo,Windows and nothing is burning a copy.
I can't recall all of the error messages...
Someone is sending me a copy from the utorrent thing.
I have a copy but it doesn't play on my computer, just the tv..I got it from England...

I hate computers.

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I note that James made the following pair of statements in this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by jj (Post 170341) has anyone got a DVD copy that plays in an NTSC player

Yes I for one have. My second DVD (burnt using the freeware program imgburn from the downloaded 1.91GB video_ts folder plays perfectly on two of my available DVD players with perfect sound thank goodness whereras:my first effort using Express Burn burnt with errors and had no sound whatsoever in our main player. see the fine imgburn tutorial at:-
there should be no question of needing to convert the set of Visual OBject files *.vob. (although you could use the delightfully named SUPER © Simplified Universal Player Encoder & Renderer.freeware conversion program)
In fact every DVD if you look at its file and folder content comprises two folders
a dummy empty one named AUDIO_TS and the ubiquitous VIDEO_TS
and most if not all DVD burning programs encourage you to add the VIDEO_TS folder
Since the original DVD was made from a digital recording made in the UK it was inevitable that the DVD's vob files would be in PAL format
yes well regarding PAL DVDs playing on NTSC systems this is shall we say somewhat of a rad herring,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZnSBKPg7or...ed+herring.bmp
I started a most relevant thread on this very subject almot 4 years ago using as my thread title
PAL vs NTSC of relevance to all video viewers
at:-
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=17560&highlight=fundamental
In it I highlit an article by Michael from Australia after I firstly reviewed my equipment for dealing with the problem of watching my stock of UK made PAL VHS videotapes
on a standard American NTSC player/monitor setup
I then went on to describe a cheap DVD player I had recently purchased that claimed to be suitable for both PAL and NTSC although it very soon expired
and moving on to PAL versus NTSC DVDs I said in part
It reminded me that a while ago I came across a brilliant web page describing the salient differences between PAL and NTSC and how that affects DVDs.Having just reread it I must say that it is required reading for anybody with any interest in burning or indeed playing DVD's
It is quite simply the very best and most comprehensive explanation of the complex and oft misunderstood subject of PAL and NTSC DVDs
http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/articles/palvsntsc/palvsntsc.asp
PAL vs NTSC
or,Which DVD Do I Buy?

In which a thorough review of the different frame rates and resolution standards etc is presented along with some most useful observations starting with a basic statement essential to the understanding what is going on digital-wise
Michael then said
"The first thing I need to clarify about DVD is that PAL and NTSC are words and formats that are applied to DVD for convenience, and because of historical convention. There is nothing fundamental about a DVD which makes it either PAL or NTSC , but for simplicity and brevity, I will continue to use these terms throughout this article."
He then spent the rest of the article describing a number of actual differences between PAL and NTSC mainly due to the larger number of scanning lines on a PAL monitor and the different television set scanning rate (in frames per minute) value due to the different electricity supply frequencies (Europe is "50 Hz" which is the shortened form of "50 hertz" which means "50 cycles per second", North America is 60HZ )
Michael usefully summarises these effects as follows:-
"When video source material is transferred to DVD, it is usually transferred in the format it was created in - PAL or NTSC, and the subsequent image has either higher temporal resolution (more frames per second - NTSC) or higher spatial resolution (more lines per image - PAL)."s

I can now add that although the grievious question of the designated region coding of a DVD remains (I have had to change the setting of one internal DVD drive on my computer to Region 2 expressly to play UK sourced videos I now get in order to be able to use DVDDecryptor to rip the vob fileset to my hard drive with any region or other coding etc discarded and then I can use those files to burn a DVD that is then suitable for my purposes .However I think there is one DVD player in our family that had a problem with one Australin PAL DVD so as I intend trying to play the PAL 1972 concert DVD on it I will soon have confirmation


　
　
　

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As I suggested above try imgburn
a free download from
http://www.imgburn.com/
TIP print out the tutorial I referenced

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that link doesn't work.
see.. I still hate computers.
;)

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oh yea - i tried imgburn along with the others last night...no go..

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OOPs it was just my usual typo an extraneous "Y" got after the /.
Y I have No idea
try this
http://imgburn.com/
and print out the tutorial at
http://www.gromkov.com/faq/faq2004-0026.html　
How do I burn a video_ts (.bup and .ifo) folder to a watchable DVD?
Without computers none of this would be possible anyway

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Strange it worked perfectly for me the very first time
try again after printing Mr Gromkov's tutorial

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I"ve printed about 9 pages of tutorials from different sites...
last one was good to go, got 3/4 of the way thru and up popped error messages...no can do..
I'll wait for my son to come over and see what the hell is wrong. I have a copy coming from someone else ... my son can try to see what he can to get it burned.

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Amen. I think it's only fair that our computer savvy off springs assist us. We've done our share, and now it's up to them to stay abreast of the latest techno-breakthrough that occurs on a seemingly daily basis.

I don't need or want to know anymore.

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Had to listen without watching - way too distracting. Sigh. Love hearing Nous Vivons Ensemble, Affair on Eighth Avenue and Miguel live, agree that SSOL is better without the choral addition. Other than Nick DeCaro's strings I can't think of many studio touches that improve the Lightfoot sound. Sigh (again)

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i love your comment (and rm's about our descendants) and if you add Your Love's Return I'd say we're right in synch...i think beyond being Caps, we share a birthdate (as does spocksbrain) so that might explain mind's being under the same moon

appreciate all the geeksquad support in this thread and via pms...i haven't overcome the PAL issue regarding playing on tv/dvd setups but thanks to Mac dvd players supporting PAL, i've been able to enjoy the very high quality audio sourced from the audio_ts file taken from the torrents set...playing the youtube uploads is nice on the tv (via ps3 link) but it's far inferior, albeit still hugely (for lack of a better adj) satisfactory

houston/britain, we still have a problem...

ps) ok ladies, that's enough lip service for one thread, lol

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Thank you to Moosedog for providing the link to youtube. Was finally able to watch it and boy, wasn't he sumthin'!

(The realization of that "bouncing baby boy" now being a 39 year old man has me feeling a bit old here.:rolleyes:)

redhead

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Well, well, well..... a HUGE thank you to Moosedog for that '72 You Tube Concert.... if my math is correct, that young, handsome, HOT, man was a frisky 34 year old!!! It made me so painfully aware that time has passed us all by. I realize he is still spinning his web but to think he is now on the cover of Zoomer magazine!!!.... my, my.... his youth and my youth are indeed gone forever.... I remember back then how I thought as much as I was enamoured of his brilliance and gentle voice, what a male chauvinist pig he was!!! Memories of "That's What You Get for Lovin' Me" so for that reason my devotion was not complete. I figured he needed smartening up and along the way by gosh he did smarten up, after he broken a million hearts tho' I figure.... Enough said. Gord, still luv ya!!

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Yowzer! Finally got to see and hear it on the Youtube link.

Some of those things I haven't heard live since that time frame.

I wish to heck they'd have caught Red with his fingers flying in tha part of the CRT - the whole "oh the songs of the future."... part. You can practically smell the smoke coming off those frets!

I remember the first time I saw them in Carnegie Hall he did an alternate Kristofferson song - Loving Her was Easier. I can still hear that.

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Work keeps me busy and I haven't posted for a while, but I still check in daily to keep up with all the latest. This has been a year of lows and highs for sure; the low of course being the passing of Terry, and the high being this unbelievable BBC show from '72. Wow, what a treasure! This concert makes me realize how much more I enjoy Gordon in a sparse setting. As much as I respect and enjoy the full band sound, I also like hearing Gordon without all the layers, just two guitars and a bass sound so beautiful together. It seems to bring out the nuances of each song that much more. For me, music changed in the late 70's and early 80's when producers started adding synthesizers and such.
As for Soundstage 1973, I asked Rick one time about it, and he said he wasn't sure if video from that show even existed! You would think it would, but if it did I would have thought something would have surfaced by now. Then again, I never dreamed this full BBC concert would ever see the light of day- it almost seems too good to be true! But there it is: a complete concert from my favorite era (I love the rainbow jacket Gordon wears....I'm guessing Jerry Jeff Walker gave him the "other" jacket shortly after this).
By the way, I hate to ask, but I'm not really that technically saavy, and I'm not even sure my computer is even capable of downloading this concert, so if anyone would mind making me a copy on dvd (I just have a standard American dvd player) I would happily provide a self addressed stamped envelope, and cover any costs it would take to make a copy.

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Hey folks, have blogged on this (and Gord in general) here: http://uncle-unkool.blogspot.com/201...n-concert.html

Aimed more at the uninitiated than those on this forum, but have a read if ya fancy. :-)

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Lucky, lucky you! I hope it was as good as I think it was.

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Very good thread, took me a long while to catch up. I finished downloading the torrent last night and watched Summer Side of Life-will save the rest for sometime this weekend when I can watch the whole thing. Amazing, and I enjoyed the interesting verses.

Besides burning a DVD, another option is to extract the file to an mp4 so it can be played on the computer, iPod, iPad, phone, or whatever portable media player you have. The free program Handbrake (Mac or Windows)will extract a variety of files from a DVD in that fashion. Just set the source as the folder containing the Video_TS file and tell it to start. It takes a while, so I usually do these overnight or while I am at work.

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Hi folks. I'm new here. Does anyone know where I can find a torrent download of the show please?

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Thank you. I'm not a member of either. I'm downloading it from YouTube via Real Player right now. I only joined the forum about an hour ago :=)

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Oh yes! Thank you so much. I'm downloading it right now. :=)

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the second link leads to a link and page that isn't there anymore..

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This is a great find--many, many, many thanks.

A couple of questions/observations.

Are you sure this is from 1972, not 1971? I ask because there is no beard (DQ was released in '72), but especially because he mentions that SSOL had not been released yet (it was a '71 release), and the explanation about Me and Bobby McGee would have been superfluous by '72, given the huge success of the Janis Joplln hit.

It is wonderful to see Red Shea at his peak--never any effort, always the satisfied little smile of someone who knows that he's a master...Terry was wonderful, God rest his soul, but Red helped define the Lightfoot sound.

The amount of material from IYCRRM and SSOL really shows the contrast between the two albums. In spite of the fact that in SSOL GL started to stretch out a bit thematically and musically, IYCRRM is just ...x...(fill in the number) times the better album. The fact that SSOL comes between IYCRRM and DQ, two of the best ever, really makes it seem like a "placeholder"--it's OK, but really one of the weaker albums. And the fact that it's one of the lesser-commented albums on Corfid underlines my point. Feel free to start hurling the tomatoes..

Best to all,
DQ

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x = 1/2

lol

i've lost objectivity in rating GL albums but as far as individual songs standing the test of time in my relentless playlist goes, there are 3 surviving off of IYCRMM (the title track, MOTD and YLR) and 5 off SSOL (Miguel, Cabaret, LAMS, TIYS and NVE...his live vocal of this interesting melody is stellar)



as earlier noted in this thread, it's not a 1972 concert...and per www.lightfoot.ca

"Gordon Lightfoot In Concert" aired on January 22, 1972 at 11 PM. It was actually taped in the spring of 1971 before Summer Side Of Life was released.