I deleted nothing.

The owner of this site has that ability just as I do.

Don't assume anything you don't know about.

Watchman,
You know, I did re-read my posts to you above. I looked for any signs of forked-tongue words that could be innocently misintepreted by you as such, and see by and large, frankly, a preponderance of an eggregiously groveling attempt to make friends with you. I am sorry - that must have sounded disingenuous.

I can see your point about the "little darts here and there...sorta..", but I thought you spoke of not being too fragile. I am however very sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Please make no mistake I am being genuine, and trying very hard to be on a friendly basis. And, that does mean putting some old wounds to healing for both of us. Let's call it , on both our parts, a well-meant misunderstanding of one another.


I am surprised after all these attempts I have made, you would still comment on my typing gettng worse. I am sorry - I got back from a very difficult day of physical rehabilitation today.

Neurologically I have a ways to go. But, I'll take my licks like a man, it's cool. I am not angry, I am just a little too old and the bark's peeling here and there too much !


I personally know I am being genuine and trying to be a stand-up guy, after 26 years of faithful marriage, and a beautiful 24 year old daughter who is about to marry a great guy, and a career I love. Can't wait for the Doc to say go back, OK ! :)

I am "back" enough to see I have embarrassed myself by offering my hand in friendship, depite the little flotsam and jetsam of advice for you. That comes a bit with age. Its called referential respect. But I can see you are not open to it. I am open to yours; this final response being evidence.

I will endeavour to consider your thoughts. But, please let US not overestimate our respective impacts.

I am quite relaxed, It is interesting you corrolate that with my typing gettinh worse. That is whats called a spurious corrolation. aka aint got nothin' to do with it.

But thank you, because I am really trying to improve my written communications before i return to work; this helps. You are to be commended for your kind assistance in pointing it out ! You know, the way in martial arts, when you get hit, and say "thank you" - for exposing the others flaw in form by being hit.

You know, Watchman, I'll bet if you and I were to sit down and comapre notes on life,love, religion, and all, we'd probably be surprised what great thoughts and dreams we share !

But I am , again, "back" enough to see rather ,....clearly... that you'd rather not let it all go, with regard to our abortive attempt to be friendly posters to one another. You need not say more.

Should you decide to stay in the room, you can count on anytime you wish to post to me, you can count on barbless wire on the range.

Maybe sometime we can call one another friend, but I think it won't kill either one of us to not make it today. I wish we could be though.
I really do think you made several fair points historically and presently here and there; all a matter of degree and perception seemingly making the difference. You seem slow to trust - thats probably good. Quick friends we both know are short time friends, usually.

Unequivocably this time, tongue all in one piece ;) (no forks !) - peace be with you Watchman - I truly hope that which troubles you with regard to the room - I know nothing of these conspiracies and PM's, and other things in life if any that trouble you (and who doesn't) - be comforted by your faith - I do not judge you. I just still think you are a good guy on many right tracks. I hope these "train tracks" converge and coalesce into what you want.
- Steve

I forgot that someone else owned this site. I also shouldn't have assumed that you know how to delete posts.

Joveski, {QUOTE} "I agree there are too many non-Gord related images posted,... this one is quite ok, Im a three stooges fan."


Now,here is a good example, nothing against you Joveski, Im just trying to make a point here. Your a three stooges fan. Now for someone that is not a three stooges fan, should he send a private message to the moderator, because what does the three stooges have to do with Gord.

Just asking? This is not directed at you Joveski. It is directed at those who dont like what me and John Fowles post, and they complain to the moderator. Guitars are a part of Lightfoot's life. I know it's not only guitars or how many, but where do we draw the line?

Charlene can you be of assistance with this one?
Your friend >>>JJ.

[ June 22, 2006, 15:35: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

As you so astutely observed J-J "not a lot" but at:-
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...763061,00.html
I read these (almost) linking sentences in a Canadian supergroup Bare Naked Ladies review:-

"The Canadians are an odd breed in how they choose favorites," Page said. "I thought we'd be, like, 49th. I was watching with my kids and I thought we had missed it. They played American Woman (by the Guess Who) and then Heart of Gold (by Neil Young). Then they played $1000000."

The ditty full of wordplay and cultural references also bested legendary tunes by Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn and Leonard Cohen. "The song has come to mean something special to a lot of people. It represents memories of good times, of trips abroad and of family. People come to feel it again," Page said."
and
"including the silly band name Page and Robertson came up with while sitting bored at a Bob Dylan concert.
"Early on Ed and I got a job opening for Corky and the Juice Pigs. They were like the Three Stooges meets the Ramones," Page said."
I always wanted to know how they got that name now we can blaim it on Joveski's favourite!!!

Actually, Geo-dude, your typing isn't near as bad as it was before. Still just tad long, but very readable. You're separating your posts into paragraphs now, and that's a big help. You're doin' much better now, keep it up. :)

the three stooges bit isnt anything to do with pictures. i was comparing how this board more relaxed to that one.

as for the pics, i've never complained to a moderator about them... actgually never complained to a moderator about anything!

JJ - there is no need for anyone to contact me or Florian because someone mentioned something in a post.

Joveski "mentioning" the 3 Stooges (and Dylan) is a poor example of the point you are trying to make.

You know as well as I that he did not start a topic about them in the wrong forum nor has he insulted anyone.

However it is not lost on me as to what point you really are making.

your friend,
Char

OK Whatever, Thank's,

John.

Joveski.

Charlene.

[ June 22, 2006, 17:06: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

Hey Jessi-Joe, let me see if I can shed some light on what some of us are talking about.... Joveski used the Three Stooges forum as a comparison to this one, making the point that this one ain't so bad. He didn't post a picture of the Three Stooges within his message - that's the difference. I personally have no problem with your thread of all the guitars and various stuff - because it is a thread of it's own, I don't have to deal with any of those pictures since there is no discussion in that thread that I have an interest in (meaning that I don't even bother opening it, now that I know what it is). However, all these unrelated pictures that folks post within a discussion thread are what I'm talking about (and based on those who have posted similar thoughts, I imagine it's what they are talking about as well - but I can't speak for them). This thread alone has some examples - not posted by you or John, but still examples of what some of us are talking about. Just because some of us don't care for all the visuals, for varying reasons, doesn't mean that we think any less of the people who post them - you're still great guys. All we're suggesting is that we keep the "discussion threads" as text and have some other place, or designated thread - such as your guitar thread, for pictures to be posted. Contrary to the common belief, a picture is not always worth 1000 words :)

[ June 23, 2006, 03:05: Message edited by: Janice ]

Very good explanation Janice. :)

Doug
As a fellow old AMLer too, I remember you but as I recall you said you did not remember me, back then ( circa '2000) as mapgeek, and similar names when i changed ISP's.
Point is, I coudn't agree more with your points. I do believe most have had good intentions and are truly fine people, its apparent that several very distressing things have happened. Since I don't know all the stories, I simply share your dismay at such unpleasantness from a few reflecting poorly on a fine group.

Wishing you well ole' plumb - I miss the day in AML when live chat was the rule every day. I truly think we got to know each other better that way, and had correspondingly fewer problems day to day as I recall.

Awfully good group in here though, with thoughtful moderation and administration. Hope to here from you more again old friend. I realize my new name is not registering with you from our PM quite a while back, But thats cool - just good to hear from you again.

I envy you that beautiful San Diego weather. Do you go to Gord's old favourite "put-in" slip at Humphrey's By The Bay concert venue/hotel/etc. out on the Island ( more of an isthmus, but that doesn't quite roll off of the tongue LOL) for concerts ?
Steve aka mapgeek mapman GISman from prodigy chat days of GL then AML , now here.

- take care

[/QUOTE]Let's try this again....

Steve, I do remember you and I believe I posted that here. I still have a communication you sent me on July 13 1997.

San Diego is indeed a beautiful area to live in. Fortunately I purchased a home when they were still affordable for the working class. We went to the Padre game last night and it was cool enough that some around were wearing jackets. The ballpark is almost on the bay which keeps it cool and breezy.

I last saw GL here last April, at an indian casino called Sycuan. That was his first full performance after his "mechanical failure".

We've got tickets for the Aug 27 performance at Humphreys.

Thanks Doug,

Sorry I forgot your first reply. I do remember that now. Its the memory thing - no need to elaborate medically anymore :)

Every year there is a practical-learning conference in what I do when I am working - almost back medical-wise ! (Geographic Info Systems - GIS Mapping) at the San Diego Conference Center. The one with a sail-fabric-covered giant patio. Its on the main North-South drag. It woyld say ESRI Annual Conference 2006
It sshould be starting any day. You can see the map exhibit from users of the software for free w/o general exhibit if it interests you (long-shot !).

I have friends in La Jolla and love all the lush gardens in the precariously-perched finer homes in the area. Beatiful. I do like the isthmus-island that Humphreys-By-the-Bay is on, and have heard Gord used to love putting in there to a slip not momre than 75 feet from his lawn venue. I guess that would have been "Sundown" (the boat) before he sold it around 1982 ?? . I staued at Humphrey's for an ESRI Map conference several years back, was a bit musty/mildewy, but since it was only missing a GL concert there by 2-weeks I could have kicked myself !

I hope business is good for you Doug,

Again, I am embarrassed I forgot our previous conversation of same a while back.

From your profile, speaking of teaching seminars, it looks as though professional plumbing licensure in Calif. is a pretty rigorous CE units State, as is Surveying and Mapping Science is in Colorado.

Thanks for the note - I'll tie a memo to my nose to not write on same "remember me?" duhhh thing,

LOL - u take care - Steve