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HEAR IS PART ONE. PART 2 & 3 HAVE MORE IMO INTERESTING DETAILS ON NASA stuff..... PART ONE OF 2 - STEVE'S RESPONSE ON WHAT 'MIGHT' BE IN Dad's locked desk drawer(JUST FUN SPECULATION, versus what LIKELY is in it.... paperwork for .....details for ageing and sad things... but now that the desk has been FOUND !!! at the moving company - I had BETTER READ it as I am mom (surviving) and dad's (passed away) executor. I AM a man in black. a G-man. well, on medical standby for a couple years.... What you saw....was NOTHING to worry about AT ALL. Just look into this right here....(lets see, 3 hours back ought to do it......wait, no - she said she once saw them... better set this for 20 years...hmmm) M'am are you married ? (hmm I beter set it on 20 years and hope for the nest. Her husband will be confused, but probably just keep watching the game...hmmm please look right into this device ma'am) lol... Wait a minute though lol.. for real.. you saw 2 planes on the ground with engines left running ? Hmm, that IS VERY STRANGE. And the shoes - did they have a steel shank and emit a strong residual electro-magnetic molecule alignment of the hematitie in them ? Thats an iron ore to you civilians.... ppl have it in their brains, too - really - some scientists, or analysts say(ever notice how the media says generically "analysts say' on the news, about any recent science or money-related thing - and when the Gov. made me an analyst - I only said one thing to the media....lol) or something... said that early nomadic peoples (the plural is correct there , different PEOPLES) may have navigated south to warmer climes by the hematite orienting to noth in thiermind and they did not even know how.... they speculate that about south/north seasonal migration of migratory bird/mammal species too.. As far as that shoe you saw that was not weathered....othing to worry about ma'am... just means that the person worked indoors....one shoe ? - hmmm Sorry I did not get to Longmont yet....I am going CRAZY with curiosity on whats in the desk....and the trunk - I'll write about that this week...I am up late and very tired now...sorry to keep you in suspense.... on 'up to Longmont' to see the trunk - its 'cause of thing s i've vowed to not bore ppl with anymore....(but you asked so I will anyway lol) its medical - after eye operations from injuries to my eyes in the head injury, I've had to get very strange eye operations I've never heard of before... 'strabismus surgery' - sounds like a violin, doesn't it ? as in "Why yes, please get me some grey Poupon mustard, and DO bid for me on that SPLENDID Stramismus Violin" lol... naw - all they do IS TAKE YOUR EYEBALLS OUT AND PUT WIRES INSIDE your EYES -POKING OUT AROUND YOUR FACE AND ADJUST YOUR EYES LIKE HEADLIGHTS BEING POINTED STRAIGHT AT THE GARAGE DOOR....LOL.sorry... actually its true - and only an analogy on the garage door...they adjust your eyes when you're halfway out of anaesthetic , and just sorta mumble - ok now I see just one...no wait..two..wait there. no there....etc - and they manually adjust your eyeballs literally to eliminate your double-vision from a head-injury - when the vision is worse than 8 diopters - under which they can do it in your glasses with prisms - which eye do have... but the surgery is usually done several times, hence they call it an 'iterative' surgery...I'm on my third round coming up - its nasty....after your eyes point right, (tricking your brain - which is bolloxed-up from the head-injury anyway) then they tie-off the clipped ligaments - or whatever the little string things are from your muscles to your eyes on 4 points around.....sounds gruesome... it is..... ANYWAY - one thin I lost is all peripheral vision - glasses or not, and I can;t see the keyboard when I type, or step on the cat..YEEEAAAAAIIICXCKE lol.... Point being,,,,, after all that unneccessary detail, my driving is so bad it would be humorous were it not unsafe..... but some days are better than others and I only drive on them.....and evven then....the car in front of me turns into 2,3,or 4 cars - so I jusr pick the car in the middle lol...naaww,,, it does happen - but I close one eye, and then there is only one car....somewhere....lol. So I have to cqarefully pick my days to d rive...and so far I have not had a safe weekend to go up and see if the drawer has alien stuff, or probably just documents, bevause I am mom and Dad's (Dad is gone, now) executor on their will. My big brother is mad about that.... but he wasallways a mean -spirited boy and stole things,,,, with perfe4ctly , well, outstanding parents = sometimes there is no explaining it.... and isnt it weird that at 50 -and my brother is 54 - that I still call him my BIG brother ? lol well, he is bigger in the belly - REALLY BIGGER. ITS the strangest thing,.he is skinny as a beanpole - no muscle - he never played outside as akid , and never was in sports...and so has no muscoe development, but he skinny with this fat, fat big belly - he looks like an alien. Speaking iof whicvh - you dang me eyes/typing sorry - you said something about when they come to pick up the think from outer space.... the men in black... OK...now...this is real what I'm gonna tell you...and ots not secret, or I wouldn;t know... to start - did u see the movie Andromeda Strain - about the very small saucer/disc/spavecraft that landed in a small toewn and spread an alien bacterium that wiped out a whole town, and the scientists (and analysts!) worked in a facility called Wildfire, concealed 5 stories deep under a cornfield ? (a movie based on a Michael Crichton novel- very good book and movie... all fake so far....sorta....and after they retrieve the 'thing' from outer space - and took it to the Wildfire facility - which was for that event - and each successive level was progressively greater decontamination for the scientsists z9and analysts !) andd they figured it out just seconds before the whole facility had a protective nuclear device to wipe-out any diseased dspacething if the scientsis and doctors could not figure itour ? Well. here is the juicy part...... I asked Dad once.... and he was truly - Director of the Uhmanned Launch Vehicles Program (Rockets and placing satellites in orbit and sending interplanetary craft on their way - like Mariner Viking Surveyor, OAO , Helios..Pioneer, etc..... well he rebuilt an old scrapped cold war era rocket z9my DAD) named ATLAS - a former military ICBM-dsorta type rocket... well he was given that and told make it a working riocket... and told to build a seperate rocket to finxh delivery of above payloads... That rocket he called the Centaur.. (all rockets generally are named after mythical greek gods etc except miulitary)and he designed them to work together and the combo - the Atlas-Centaur Rocket - you can look it up in NASA web-site if you want - but the combo of the two has been called America's "spacecraft workhorse" - even so, 1 out of every 3 would blow up om the pad in the beginning of the program - '58 and a few years of oo-pses 3-400 million at a tme....oops Well he worked put of Cleveland's (go figure) NASA SITE Called the LERC - Lewis Research Center.... where we lived and he did all kinds of top[ secret things the higher up he got, until he got to the 4th from the top of NASA - dad had a brain like no ther - I WISH I was half as smart lol.. OK ANYway - oh - if you wanna look him up check NASA'S gome web site - and look up (I'll PM you if you want our last name) - anyway 'Russ's Scissors" - the modern stage-sepoerator he invented, and patemted....but he is listed about 450 times in NASA's on-line history. END OF PART ONE OF THREE -PART TWO TO FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY AFTER CODED AND ENCRYPTED DOCUMENT NAMED 'DAD'S DRAWERS',(lol) AND WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTS COULD BE IN THEM, AND TRUNKS...... |
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PART TWO OF THREE PARTS NOW - POSTING CHARACTERS LIMITS.
CODED AND ENCRYPTED DOCUMENT j/k -NAMED 'DAD'S DRAWERS',(lol) AND WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTS COULD BE IN THEM, AND TRUNKS...... and Oddly more so at their main WEBSITEa for the whole country - and not as much at all at the LERC - turned into Glenn Research center when Glenn Died. If you look upo Atlas Centaur rocket - you'll get him anyway -shown out of date as the 'Deputy Director of Unmanned Launch Vehicles" - he even worked on and laucnhed the Voyageur instellar craft on its loooooong way out of the solar system and trajectory is to the nearest Star - one of the 4 wuth the same name - but abour 4 light yearw away - (one light year is hoe far light will travel in one year - at 186,000 miles per SECOND x 3600 = MPH = about 6 trillion miles. Times 4 again to our nearby friendly star (relatively speaking) Alpha Centuri as I recall - it'll take untol yearw to get there...and it was intially sent into pin-point trajectory from Dad's Atlas-Centaur rocket(s) first to the sun... and then around the back, barely missing getting caught in its gravimetric pull, and by using that pull, and a thing called conservation of energy and momentum- its orbit around the back of the sun getting closer and closer...then whooosh! out the other side in what is now known to Science Fiction fans as the very real whiplash (I canlt remember simple words tonight....its very similar to whiplash dang-it...andway - Dad invented the process) whereby as it comes out the back side -it is accelreated in the vcase of Voyageur I & II, they started out at just under 25,000 MPH to get out of the earth's gravitational constant z0you knoe I think I am remberiong that term wrong, too..... some times.....sorry...) well, anyway - you can't leave the earth's gravitational pull until youare going around 24,000 MPH - think about that a second...... Dad as flight director too, like the guy in Apollo 13 Houston Mission Control - wearing the home made white vest from his wife - the guy played by Ed Harris - thatsw the roll Dad played when unmanned mission were launched on his rocketZ9s) (I can brag on him now that he has passed, in his memeory..! lol) welll, after going cvfrom 0 mph on the launchpad, help up by the gantry, the launch I got to go to when I was a hod. was .....incredible... the HUGE ampunt of earth-shaking fire and thrust...several million pounds of thrust...it eould go from 0 - 25,000 MPH in less then 8 minutes.... take that to the dragstri[p lol....BUT the best is yet to come - and then Andromeda Strain thing, in case I'm losing your interest.... so its deployed into spacein the final stage on top of the Atlas(which WernerVon Braun told dad would never work - the Atlas that is...) and then final stage - Dad's all new from scratch - in the 60's and 70's - The Centaur rocket - would deploy in this case - the Voyageur on its way first to the sun at about 23,000 MPH , into a barely too tight an orbit around the sun, to delibeterately pull it in asit goes, thereby increasing speeed by virtue of gravity -eg the whiplash effect - I am remebering the wrong word on....duhhhh... and get this..... it was in the Guiness Book for a few years as the fastest machine ever built by man,,, - the Voyageur1 coming out of the back side of the sun - and at the ladst calculated second -whooosh pulls away from the sun..... and is here is the word lollolol i remembered - not whiplash - thatsme... its Slingshot..effect - Dad invented it ! really ! abd as it comes Slingshot gravitationally accelreated by the sun - it came out at 140,000 mph +/- 1 -2 thousand MPH wowwwww.....and then.....as Newton pointed out quite astutley - an object in motion willremain in motion until something slows it down....and in zero-G - nothing to sow it diown ! so its been literally drifting - out of fuel by design at the incredible speed of 140,000mph for decades now....and just recently left the solar system..... and is on its way at that speed... to our nearest stellar neighbor....I am remebering sorta tonight it is Alpha Centuri....(1,2,3 or 4) - when they launnched it at Cape Kennedy/Canaveral (they keep changing names) they did know yet there were 4 of those stars all together in our line of site, before the Hubble telescope... well, on its way - that speed having been in the guiness book, not now... it carries our message if HEllo - mathematically-geared language - unversal language we hope - to convert to english, with a sort of time-capsule inside - bits and pieces of all different types of mankind's knowledge on the first CD ever made inside it...it was gold colored - I got to look at it.... or one like it... not in the clean-room.. andoutside the spacecraft,. is abrass plaque with a man and woman illustrated ala National Geogrpahic style lol...with hands up in hello fashion...and a solar-system map of us, and ur relationship to Alpha Centuri... and in about 3,060 years by my quick calc at 140,000 mph for 4 light years away ( thats a total distance it will travel if nothing hits it, deflects it, or slows it down = a distance of VERY roughly 24 TRILLION MILES - EQUIVALENT TO 4 LIGHT YEARS CONVERTED TO MILES, BASED ON A LIGHT-YEAR BEING HOW FAR A BEAM OF LIGHT, UNINHIBITED, WILL TRAVEL IN A YEAR - AT 186,000 MILES PER SECOND, AND THE TRILLION MILES FIGURE ALONE IS = { A TRILLION IS A THOUSAND TIMES A THOUSAND TIMES A MILLION)...if it misses the star cluster there -it'll sail on right by the star- at 140,000 MPH..OR....we hope... it'll be intercepted by intelligent aliens who are playing the lol big CD in their WalkAliens headset.....and assimilate all our knowledge in one nanaosecond....lol... well its the first crack at an interstellar shot...and I;d say dad's made his mark in his lifetime... but overall POINT being.... THE CRAFT shownin the movie Andromeda strain - faintly resembles the spacecraft that comes to earth....without burning up (which it would unless made from "alien-3 teflon titanium" and brings alien bacteria... so.. the BIG Q ????? does NASA have a lab like 'Wildfire' - the Presidential code name (i.e. Mr President - we have a NASA Wildfire)for alien ship has crashed or leisurely landed - lets see if it has strep throat lab... does it really exist like in the movie ??? I got to ask him....nobody else in the family thought too.... and unfortunately, the answer .... is YES !!1! sort of...he said....quite like it, just not so dramatic or hidden under a cornfield... thats for missile-silohs......so we DO have an alien-lifeform super-duper-bacterium/virus. And, no... you're insurance won't cover the medicine against it lol.... the lab is designed to detect what IS ON the craft - if it did not rather likely burn-up in re-entry, and/or the heat of re-entry does not decontaminate it for us. The part he did his characteristic 1 minute pause on, then 5 more minutes... was when I asked him IF astromauts who go on EVA's - extra-vehicular-activities - aka go outside the space shuttle etc... - do THEY go through a decontamination....and he fnally said well, ......thats the manned program... I do the unmanned thing. The manned program has quote:'terrible QA/QC - thats why I chose the unmanned when given the choice'.....- scarey thought. He would not explain any fears or possible hazards of the manned program, other than he said early on - before the shuttlecraft - that particualrly was the project "to keep NASA alive" a year before he retired young at 52...and he said "the shuttlecraft was sold to congress on a cost-effectiveness justification snowjob that said it would actually turn a profit aka in Gov't as 'cost-recovery' - as profit - in Gov't is constitutionally illegal- obviously not in the taxpayers' interest. The 'cost recovery' - ostensibly was putting privately-built companies' tele-communication satellites in orbit etc.... but he figured out that the numbers they gave congress - not from his unmanned desk.... were based on launching once a week. lol. The three Shuttles built planned on being perenially functional are not.... we've had a few sad kabooms....and they never could even come remotely-close to launching at that interval, and moreover -HE SAID THEIR QA/QC was so bad for a manned spacecraft it was frightening - and he forecasted disaster for it of unknown type to him, but he DID say the o-rings on the solid-fuel boosters were lousy as I recall, and'he would not fly one of those things' - the way the program and spacecraft were designed on a shoe-string budget..... scarey.... andhard for him to talk about when he did. THIS DOCUMENT HAS NOW GROWN TO THREE PARTS BY EDITING, SO THIS IS THE END OF PART 2 OF 3 |
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He (MY Dad) spoke very highly though, of the manned missions Engineering quality through both SKYLAB (REMEMBER THAT ? - A LAB AS BIG AS A 3 BDRM HOUSE) and Apollo which were both launched out of the Earth's atmosphere and up into orbit for Skylab, and the flip-flop deployment of the 3-day mission rocket components into position and pinpoint precision 'attitude' and jettisoned on its way for the roughly 1/4 million mile 3-day trip 'coast' at over 10,000 MPH to the moon - of Apollo missions - guidance he did on both - because they shared the montrous Saturn V Rocket - the only thing Dad did on Skylab and Apollo and specifically on the Saturn 5 Rocket they shared iin common - 365 ft. tall and 7 million pounds thrust - and the Apollo project as well "on the side"- were guidance components, programming, and systems" referred to in the Movie 'Space Cowboys as 'Byzantine guidance programming' on Skylab by the hotshot spoiled kid from MIT - That Clint Eastwood, playing the retired NASA Engineeer who designed the guidance on Skylab in the movie - that in historical fact was my father, but the movie character was NOT based on Dad's life at all lol ). Dad said he could NEVER put his name on Manned Project vehicles the way they were budgeted and being designed after Apollo and Skylab, and who subsequently were calling the shots. But Dad did truly respect - and was proud to put his guidance systems work into both Skylab (after Apollo missions) and the Apollo project missions-Apollo specifically being Kennedy's - and indeed the Nation's vision - to put a man on the moon by the end of the 60's decade - they did it - but it was one of the most spectacular achievements by mankind in history - and certainly to date then of NASA's. I'd have to say Dad's proudest - and saddest career moments I could tell later - were the Viking/Mars Missions. Just before he retired,he finished and proudly launched Viking One, in 1975, the very first Mars soft-Lander and on-board geologic core sampler craft - ever to touch down - well, lol,, bounce - by design softly down on Martian soil in the 70's - the touchdown - he proudly saw from his mountain-top retirement home here in Colorado on TV. But when Nasa did it again later in this current decade - it was hailed on Television erroneously as mankind's first Mars soft-landing - and I saw a tear in Dad's eye, but he said nothing. So I had a mission hat made for him, commemorating HIS & his team's first success in the 70's. BUT WHATS IN THE DRAWER ? I don;t know yet, and I suspect you can hardly read this post at all.... good thing I did not drive up ! If you made it this far reading BRAVO ! you brave hardy soul ! MORE TO COME Later - TRUNKS and drawers..... sounds like BVD's now lol.... |
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Hi Patti,
The link for Madeline Island is nice! Very interesting and beautiful island. I think it's interesting all the gifts that people leave on Chief Buffalo's grave site....some are kind of odd though. :) A bouncy ball???? Anyway, thanks for the link. I can see why you like to go there. Nothing more relaxing that the sound of the waves against the shore at night. :) I love going back to the places that help me to remember my childhood and the people that I love...great feeling. :) |
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Just dropping in to pick up a large coffee, black, and a bagel with cream cheese, to go. Hey, how about 'dem Yankees ? This is their year.
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Jeez, where did everybody go? :)
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I B here. i'm too tired to say much will read more tomorrow. I need a double double.lol
Nightingale = 'they' are all hiding in the woodwork of this old, old frontiere- building. Formerly a saloon, sometimes you can hear the piano player feintly...... |
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RM - that'll be $29.95... y'all come back now...how do you like the new pricing scheme ?
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I want the 24 OZ Cowboy steak - medium -well, and a bottle of ketchup. And a dinner salald - vinegar and oil, home fries, and key lime pie for dessert.
I'm all for sports, like to play 'em, but the commercialization and pressure put on players now seems more like business. I'd say currently football is a crypto-fascist metaphor for nuclear war. Barkeep - (hic) give me a (urp) third triple - a second double - not sure which......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Patti = there are MAPS !!!!! ON THE Indian Island according to the description! I'm in ! lol
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http://www.madelineisland.com/images...emap_large.jpg
Here should be a map for you to look at. I like #23. |
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Thanks Patti - very cool. |
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Wisconsin. One of the Apostle Islands. :)
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Hi patti - you get me reply today ? :)
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Hi Steve,
Yeah, just a few minutes ago. |
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Is there a BAY , not bar, lol... or harbor of sorts that keeps the waters canoeable ? Must be a beautiful place to live - ashore anyway, beautiful in the fall I'd imagine |
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There is canoe rental right there at #23.
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Waiter ! - I'll have a a large mug of tea. Constant comment spice, please.:biggrin:
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I mean on the map where it shows Big Bay Town Park, there is a little number 23 there. Anyway, the Town Park is where I saw they were renting out some canoes.
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How are you today Patti ? Good day ? DSaylight savings goes FWD tonight.
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I see it (saw it) correctly now, by The Big Town Park. and pt. # 23 in any event - appears on the leeward side, canoing ought to be goor there,
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It's probably very good there. I've only canoed on inland lakes and on the Brule River. (Brule, WI)
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brb
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He was sure into a lot of things, that guy.
3billion?? How'd he get away with that? |
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..then again, maybe he didn't. Remind me not to try it.
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And it is only 'potential' energy. until the water is turned on,and then the power of the water is determined by a few factors that are much like electricity. Once the electricity is flowing (amperage), the final measurement of tghe powere is volts x amps = watts, a translatable unit of power convertible to other types, such as horsepower. But poer in these instances also involves time - i.e. how much waterat what pressure waiting at the valve - similar to voltage measured across, and then the valve is turned on (analogous to closing an electrical circuit, and it then 'flows' (equiv. to amps) over how much time = work. and work - force x distance. And force = mass (like water) times accelleration (so work = mass x accelleration x distance) all combined , over time, less loss of power in transmission. Best I stop there or will bore the living 'mass' over time (yawn) out of you ! lol..... I hope that made sense. Waiter - get me a diet lime pepsi ! |
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And I'd to order a large Guiness for Mr. Ohms.
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Wasn't he holding some key? Think he was able to let go right away when he got struck or ... I don't know, must have been a quick flash. What a nut.
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Sorry , I hope I did not give you indigestion from that poorly worded minor 'vignette' on water and electricity. I've enjoyed the first (as close to as possible) real-time dialogue in cafe ! Thank Patti !
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Thanks Steve!
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