Borderstone:
I couldn't agree with you more. Cat Stevens is a brand name millions of people know and it would be a mistake to issue the album under YI. He never took the CS name seriously anyway...everyone he knew called him Steve, because his name at birth was Stephen. He took the name Cat because a girl once told him his eyes looked like a cat.
Thanks to all you you Lightheads for letting us go off topic from Gord for a bit. I'll bet Gord has a couple of CS songs he likes. At the very least I bet Gord is aware of what a unique guitarist CS was....

Cat Stevens


http://www.votolatino.com.ar/2003/fotos/catstevens.jpg

Usuf Islam


http://www.mystolennation.com/images.../sb_catdog.jpg


http://www.e-rockworld.com/images/ti...%20Stevens.jpg


http://www.newwavephotos.com/Tickets...CatStevens.jpg


http://images.google.ca/images?q=Cat...start=100&sa=N

[ August 13, 2006, 09:59: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]

Cat Stevens


http://www.votolatino.com.ar/2003/fotos/catstevens.jpg

Usuf Islam


http://www.mystolennation.com/images.../sb_catdog.jpg


http://www.e-rockworld.com/images/ti...%20Stevens.jpg


http://www.newwavephotos.com/Tickets...CatStevens.jpg


http://images.google.ca/images?q=Cat...start=100&sa=N

[ August 13, 2006, 09:59: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]

Re: my Audiophile stereo Sundown LP vs. quads

Maybe one or two thought I meant in my question regarding the Sundwon 1/2 speed master from MFSL that I thought my stereo "Audiophile" copy was quad.

Nope, just wondering if:

* what I knew to be stereo (it says stereo) could be played on a quad turntable ?

* does a quad turntable need a quad-only needle, and can they play stereo records like my Sundown I own John pictured ?

* lastly does anyone think used quad equipment like a quad turntable and amp is worth ramping-up on at a good price ? I do not have quad LP's noteably Sundown... are they worth the trouble
for the sound ?

--- Rob196 cleared these Q's of mine up very nicely. Thanks Rob...

geo Steve

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

Bringing this OLD thread back up because I thought I'd mention that I've not seen any mention here of the unofficial DVD-A copy of the quadraphonic SUNDOWN that was floated around as a torrent file last fall. I got it and it's very good... much better than messing with old noisy quad-8-tracks or problematic quad-CD4-LP equipment. You just need a home theatre player that does surround after you burn the ISO file to a blank DVD, it's encoded into a few different surround formats.

It makes you go through a few steps to get the torrent file I had some trouble myself but figured it out on my second try (first you have to download a "rar" archive, then you need the password to unzip it - it is hidden on the by being black text on black background so you have to highlight it to find it, with that, then you can extract the torrent file.)

To save you from all of this, I changed the extension of the file from .torrent to .txt and it is attached to this post. Download the attachment, rename the extension to .torrent and it should work.

This is the page on that quadraphonic blogspot where this was posted:

http://the-quad-blog.blogspot.com/20...t-sundown.html

edit- also, the quad version of this album seems to be fairly well regarded in the quadraphonic community:

http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/foru...own-CD-4-Q8-QR

Someday maybe COLD ON THE SHOULDER will show up on DVD-A/V as well.

I'd meant to post this a while back but keep getting sidetracked I guess. But posting about a different album on the "cover versions" forum a few minutes ago that's on a different blogspot site, I reminded myself to do mention this as well.


-Andy

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

At long last, I just found that COLD ON THE SHOULDER in quadraphonic just got distributed digitally, in SACD format. Mojave, who also recently posted an SACD version of the DVD-A transfer of SUNDOWN, is the place:

http://mojaveproductions.blog.com/20...oulder-sacd-r/

This requires a player that can handle SACD, and many players do not. Many of the releases on mojave later show up in DVDA format on that other site mentioned above, so if you can't do SACD, cross your fingers that it'll show up there sometime.

They did make a mention to forgive them for glitches due to the tape not being in perfect shape. I can't attest to that yet, because I'm still downloading it... it is not a torrent this time. This time it's a split archive on Rapidshare, which is limited on free downloads at 30 kilobytes per second. So it will take a while to download. I just started it myself and won't be done for a while, to get all 6 pieces.

If anyone wants it, click here for a link to the initial info file. Download it and open it up.

https://rapidshare.com/#!download|11...5D3C14BB9B|0|0

Inside the text file will be download links for the 6 pieces that make up this compressed RAR file. As well as the password you'll need to extract it.

After you get all 6 downloaded, then you have to extract the RAR file, (7zip or WinRar work good for that) and then you'll need to burn it using Imgburn to a normal blank DVD. Instructions are in the text file.

-Andy


EDIT - it took a while but I finally got it all downloaded and recompiled onto a DVD. The result: awesome.! Worth getting.

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

It's great to re-read these posts from 6 years ago. Yusuf Islam did indeed go on to release 2 albums of pop music in '06 and '09 under the YI name...more correctly just Yusuf. His musical, Moonshadow: The Musical opens May 19 in Melbourne. Gord, of course released "All Live" which I just finished listening to for the first time. I noticed that there was a story on the internet that he didn't want to use any post 2002 recordings because the tracheotomy he had during his health emergency changed the timbre of his voice. That's the first time I've read that Gord acknowledged that some damage was indeed done due to that proceedure. Before, he had said things like "the voice will find its way back". Not exactly true, but I'd rather hear his voice "damaged" than he not being here at all.
If you want to hear surround done right and if you're a Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson fan, I suggest you pick up Ian's Thick As A Brick 2 cd/dvd. There's a 5.1 surround edition of the album included and it's excellent. To be done right, Gord would have to have a great surround engineer come in and remix his albums in surround, not just use the crappy out of phase left minus right pseudo-surround. Maybe that could be his project once he retires from touring.

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

Just one note for our beloved moderator: none of the posts in this thread under my member name BILLW are actually mine. That's no problem as they are all nice and well thought out BUT they talk about things that I have no personal knowledge of, never did, never will. I think some other names are wrong too but I can't be certain.

Not a big deal but a curiosity nonetheless,

Bill ;)

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Just look at this first sentence from 6 years ago. In all my years on corfid I don't think I've ever "cleared up" anything LOL

Bill :)

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

I also don't know why the old posts show up twice - once with the original poster and then with another name..it's a mystery to me!
lol
I thought something off when I saw it twice and once with your name attached...lol
Regardless of who posted it I still don't know what the hell to do..
Somebody please send me a copy when you figure it out! lol

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

I missed this when you posted it a couple of weeks ago.

I certainly hope you don't mean the SUNDOWN and COLD ON THE SHOULDER quadraphonic 4-channel surround mixes are crappy treatments... they certainly are not. They are both quite discrete surround mixes, and I think SUNDOWN is an excellent mix, (some regard it as one of the best 1970s quad albums) and COTS, while not quite as good, is still well done. Far from "crappy out of phase left minus right pseudo-surround"!! Just because it's 4.0 Surround and not 5.1 or more doesn't mean they were poorly done.

-Andy

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

Andy, are you saying that the grooves of an lp can contain 4 discreet channels? I've read for decades that the two sides of a record groove can only handle enough information for two discreet left and right front channels plus the left minus right surround channel, as opposed to a DVD-Audio, SACD, or Blu-ray disc that can do full 5 or 5.1 discreet channels.

Re: Quadraphonic Lightfoot Albums
 

Well, those quadraphonic transfers to DVD-A and SACD mentioned above, were from discrete Reel to Reel tapes, so those were truly separate 4 channel mixes. (Quad-8 tracks were as well.) If you can play DVD-A and SACD, I totally recommend you get those that I mentioned above.

Also, as for vinyl, Warner Brothers never used the SQ or QS style "matrix" encoding on their LP releases. They used CD-4, which was NOT matrix like you were talking about. CD-4 use the same general technology as is used to broadcast FM-stereo - there is a high-frequency carrier signal on each channel, when used with a proper needle and demodulator, will split left and and right into left front/rear and right front/rear. Granted, the record needs to be in good shape, and you have to have the right equipment to play it, but it works better than matrix.

(and Matrix'ed quad, when handled by modern digital processors set up properly, can be much better than anyone ever dreamed of back in early 1970s - the Dreaming Spires website where the SUNDOWN DVD-Audio version came from, has been setting up a SQ matrix decoder for several years before he "finalized" his software. I've heard a couple of his SQ matrix-decodings converted to DVD-Audio, and they were quite well done)

-Andy