Midwest flooding

[RM]

Anybody here affected ? It's unbelievable. I guess if you are impacted, you won't be able to post anyway. I know my computer doesn't work under water.

[Jesse Joe]

Nightingale from Indiana has not posted much lately. Hope she's OK !

[lighthead2toe]

I've been following this on the news and it's really quite terrifying. Many things happening these days with climatic conditions seem to be getting more bizarre all the time. It's probably not a smart thing to say "keep us posted" but what can one do other than deal with it the best way possible and hope the pain won't last too long. Ron J.

[Patti]

Be safe Nightingale. I miss you.

[Nightingale]

Don't worry, we are fine around here.:)

We have had some bad storms the last couple of weeks but aren't involved in the flooding.
I feel so bad for the people that are though...it has to be awful to see your whole life get washed away.

We had a big get together at the creek last Sunday and a storm came up out of nowhere. It was really weird because the wind started snapping tree tops off and it looked like they were being twisted in a circular motion. We lost three full tress that got uprooted and probably a half dozen more got the tops twisted off of them.

The news said it was straight line winds but it sure didn't seem that way to me. We didn't see a tornado but it was a strange experience and didn't seem like a normal summer squall.

Thanks for thinking of me.:)

Yep, I haven't been around as much. Kids are out of school which changes my schedule in a big way...lol.

You stay safe too, Patti. Seems like you guys are getting your share of these nasty storms too.

[Nightingale]

Jesse joe,
I haven't heard anything about John Mellencamp's estate but southern Indiana has been hit pretty hard several times now.
I know there is a lot of flooding in his area and all around his old home town.

I'll let you know if I hear anything about him. Keep your fingers crossed. :)

[Jesse Joe]

Thanks Nightingale and glad to see your OK... Maybe a song from John will come out of this ?

[Patti]

Glad you're alright there, Nightingale! Was that creek you were at last Sunday the one called Sugar Creek? That must have been scary when the winds were like that.

Yesterday I was out mowing, and it started to sprinkle just a little bit, so I tried to finish up this one spot real quick, and suddenly there was this flash of lightening, and HUGE crack of thunder right after. I didn't notice how hard my heart was pounding until after I shut off the mower.

[Nightingale]

Hi Patti,

I hope you got your mowing done between storms.:rolleyes: It's getting harder to fit things in between the raindrops...lol.

Yes, we were at Sugar Creek. It was scary...
We have an old barn on the property so we all took shelter in there while it was storming. I was a little worried and everyone kept saying that the barn had been there for 70 years but you know, the barn has to cave in sometime and I was thinking that it might be during that wind....lol.:eek:

It didn't...just keeps me busy picking up branches and tree limbs out of the yard and elsewhere.
I am not complaining though....could have been so much worse and I am happy it wasn't.:)

Yes, they will get your heart pumping...lol.
Here's hoping for a sunny day or two this week...

[Patti]

Hi Anne,

Got the mowing all done yesterday. I wonder if lawnmowers attract bears. Last time we mowed, a bear was out in the yard the next morning. Today, I see that something got into my son's behive. It has an electric fence around it, but the wires aren't snugged up enough on one side.

Good the barn was still sturdy enough. If it ever decides to fall apart, it better not do it when anyone is using it for shelter.

I have a big pile of branches and limbs here too. I was thinking of burning them, but I guess I'll go throw them out in the woods.

Today was sunny enough to go out to tan a little bit. The dog came over and drooled on my face, then she licked it off. That was nice of her. lol.

[Nightingale]

Lol....dog slobbers...true love, eh?
I have a long haired kitty that wants to lay on top of me if I am trying to tan outside. I get all hairy and it sticks because I am sweaty...ick!

Bears? Geez, you and podunklander are brave women...lol. I love bears but woudln't want to live with them roaming around my yard. I suppose you get used to them but it seems scary to me...lol.

Your son keeps bees?
Nice....do you harvest the honey?
I plant a lot of bee balm because I heard that the honey bees are fading fast. It's a real crisis from what I hear...maybe I heard wrong but I think the bee balm is pretty anyway.

[Patti]

Yep, true love, that's all that matters. :p ick:biggrin:

Yeah, my oldest son keeps bees. He kept some for a couple years and one year a bunch of them swarmed up and flew off. The remaining ones were more aggressive. That winter they died, but he is starting over this year and hopefully they will be alright now. I think he will be able to harvest a little honey this year. He gave them a new addition last night (like a high-rise apartment) They all seemed fine even though the fence was broken and their house was thrown on the ground.

I hope more people will plant bee balm. Glad you do. Yes, I heard of the honey bees fading fast. We really need them. I hope the situation improves soon.

[Nightingale]

What kind of dog do you have?

That's very interesting about your son's bees. I hope the bear leaves them alone now(and you too!) so that they can settle down and make honey for him.

High rise addition should make them happy...lol:)

Let me guess...now you get to fix the fence....

[Patti]

The dog is half Rottweiler and half Black Lab. She took after her dad, and looks all Lab, except she has a thick neck.

:) The fence is fixed. I helped.

My sister says one way to keep a bear away is to fill a water balloon with amonia and water, rub bacon grease on the outside of it and put it up on a tree.

[Nightingale]

Sounds like a great dog...is she protective like a Rottweiler?
A friend of mine has a couple of Rotties and they are babies. I was a little nervous about them the first few times I went to her house but they are very gentle giants.

That's interesting about the bear....are you going to try it?
Hopefully ,he won't come back....lol :)

[Jesse Joe]

The dog is half Rottweiler and half Black Lab. She took after her dad, and looks all Lab, except she has a thick neck.

:) The fence is fixed. I helped.

My sister says one way to keep a bear away is to fill a water balloon with amonia and water, rub bacon grease on the outside of it and put it up on a tree.

What happens here, does the bear climb the tree and when he touches the ballon it of course burst and then the noise or the amonia scares him away... :eek: :biggrin: :)

[Patti]

What happens here, does the bear climb the tree and when he touches the ballon it of course burst and then the noise or the amonia scares him away... :eek: :biggrin: :)

Yeah, I think I'll make him climb really high. :biggrin: ...
I don't care if a bear wants to walk through the yard, I just don't want him getting into things or hurting anyone.

[Patti]

Sounds like a great dog...is she protective like a Rottweiler?
A friend of mine has a couple of Rotties and they are babies. I was a little nervous about them the first few times I went to her house but they are very gentle giants.

That's interesting about the bear....are you going to try it?
Hopefully ,he won't come back....lol :)

She is just like most black labs, very happy and friendly. We got her when she ran across the frozen St. Croix river with her mom and brothers and sisters when I lived in Gordon. My brother let them in the house. He said keep the black one. At first I called her "little bear".

I'm not sure if I'll try the balloon trick on the bear. That fence should work.

[Nightingale]

Hi Patti...sounds like "little bear" was a keeper...lol.:) I think Black labs have amazing personalities...so sweet and gentle. I have had so many kinds of dogs over the years but Labs are the sweetest.
So, when she ran across the river, do you mean they were on their own and you guys took them in?
I think animals know when you save them...they know what's in your heart more than people do.:)

I was kind of wondering the same thing as Jesse Joe...lol. I guess the bacon grease would attract them and make them think it's food and the amonia would stink or burn their eyes????
An old farmer told my father-in-law to urinate around the perimeter of his garden to keep out the deer...lol.
I don't know if he ever tried it or not, but he did always keep a radio playing overnight outside to scare away varmits so I guess the urine thing didn't work too well. :)

I hope your fence works and you don't have to do anything else that involves climbing trees:)

[Patti]

Hi Anne, No, those dogs were just out playing in their yard. Since the river was frozen over, I guess they considered it part of their yard. Sometimes we brought them back home because they didn't want to leave, but we got to keep one.

[Nightingale]

Hi Patti:)

Good for you and good for the dog!

I used to have a Border Collie named "Puck". He loved to go down to the creek and roll in dead fish....ick! Let me tell you, he would smell awful...lol
Sometimes he would rinse himself off in the creek but mostly not.

Hope your bear hasn't come back.

We have had more storms tonight. Again, the southern part of the state got it worse than we did but we got lots of wind and a little hail.
It was really hot and humid and now it's turned cool, I suppose that means more storms tomorrow.:(

[Jesse Joe]

Hi to Patti & Nightingale,

Just to let you know that if ever I saw a bear in front of me, it would be then that I would know how fast I could run... :biggrin: Is that a terrifying animal or what. Been afraid of bears ever since I saw the movie "Grizzly" in the late 70's early 80's, at a local Drive-In theatre. I can assure you I was not the one that was going to go out for hamburgers & fries to the concession stand... :eek:

[Patti]

Hi to Jesse Joe and Nightingale,

My dog has rolled on a few dead fish when we lived by a river. She has rolled in 'bear stink' a few times too. We have black bears around here. Once I saw my dog barking at one, but it stayed pretty mellow about it. I was trying to call the dog off, but she seemed to think it was her job to bark at it. She finally listened to me and I got her into the house. I'm glad the bear didn't get mad. I usually don't feel afraid of bears, and I don't think running away from them is what 'they' advise, but I don't really want to get too close. Once when one dragged a bag of garbage out of the garbage can and into the woods, I was a little afraid when I was cleaning up the mess because I thought it might be watching and wouldn't want me taking it's food away.

We had a quite a bit of rain again last night. The garden had been covered with moss from all the rain, but I got most of it hoed yesterday before it rained. We're getting so many mosquitos this year. Last year there were hardly any.

[Nightingale]

Hi Patti and Jesse Joe,
Yep, more storms this morning but this evening was beautiful. What a great sunset we had...we have been having a lot of gorgeous sunsets lately.

Yes, I am with you on the bear thing, Jesse:) I think the black bears are cute and even polar bears are pretty, but the really big bears scare me....lol. I wouldn't want to have a bear of any kind in my yard....well, maybe a panda bear but that's about it.

About going to the concession stand during a scary movie...sigh...that's one of those times I am happy to be a girl...lol. Have you ever noticed that it's always the guy that gets it first in scary movies? The girl is always wrapped up in a sheet on the bed waiting for him and he never makes it back:(
Tough luck bein' a guy and having to go for those fries don't cha know:)

You know, I never would have thought about a bear thinking I was taking it's food when I cleaned up the garbage. I guess you know a lot more about bears than I do, but that was pretty smart thinking on your part.
I am glad you got the dog in...that would scare me and how horrified would I be if a bear attacked my dog...I can't even say:(

[Nightingale]

Patti, have you had a lot of garden spiders this year?

You know the kind I mean? Huge spider and they are black and yellow?
We have had a lot of those in our garden this year...much more than usual.

I hate spiders!:( I would rather see ten snakes than one big, hairy spider and that's no joke.
I was picking raspberries today and one jumped on my chest and I nearly beat myself silly getting it off. Well, actually...I squished it while it was still on me and that made it worse...lol.
It must be from the rain and humidity. Maybe they thrive on it but I wish they would go away...ick!!!

[Jesse Joe]

Your right about those stupid scary movies Nightingale... :biggrin: And I know it's not advise to run if you spot a bear Patti, but I would run anyway ! :biggrin: :)

[Patti]

Spiders give me the creeps. I'll squish them too. No I haven't noticed them in the garden, just few ants. Once my son Joe ran away from a bear and the ladder happened to be convenient and he climbed on top of the house. The bear kept hanging around staring at him.. Poor kid. He was only around 12.

[Nightingale]

I don't care what the experts say, I would probably not be able to keep from running...lol.
Thank goodness Joe had the ladder handy...he sounds like he's pretty smart cause that's good thinking for a scared 12 year old:)

Jesse Joe...my favorite scary movie is House On Haunted Hill...the original version with Pamela Franklin and Roddy McDowell...great scary stuff if you haven't seen it.
I also love the original Body Snatcher's movie...scared the heck out of me when I was a kid...lol.

[Jesse Joe]

I dont remember seeing that movie "House On Haunted Hill." My fav scary movie is the first "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", again at the Drive-In. :eek:

[Patti]

I used to love going to Drive-In movies. I think the last one I saw at a Drive-In was Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

[Nightingale]

We still have our little country drive-in. It's called "Mel's" and it plays all summer long:)

The kids go there a lot but I usually don't:)

[Patti]

That's good that they have a drive-in around there. I don't know why so many closed, but I'm guessing that a few juveniles got delinquent(?) When I first went to a drive-in, I was with my parents and sibs. Then later went with groups of kids. We didn't get too delinquent other than hiding someone in the trunk once or twice.

[Nightingale]

Hiding someone in the trunk...lol:)

That's not delinquent, Patti...that's expected!

[Jesse Joe]

lol ! I think everyone hid someone in the trunk at least once or twice. :) Patti the reason they give down here why Drive-In's are closing, is VCR's. In the early 80's people started buying them. My very first VCR was an RCA (2 heads) that I bought in 1980, paid $2000 for it, just so I could watch "Gordon Lightfoot Olympic Tribute Concert" he did at CNE in Toronto.

You see I knew the guy who sold them, and I asked him if he would set the machine to tape that concert which was on a Sunday night. The store was closed on Sundays in those days... I told him if you agree to do that for me I will buy the machine in a few weeks. But I thought in would not work, something would happen and that VCR machine would not come on at 8:00 pm on CBC TV, how could that possibly occur "Magic?" So he did, and it recorded it, and I kept my word. Must have watch that concert thousands of time.

But their still "Olympic Team Benefit' which Gord did in 1976 at Maple Leafs Gardens that I would like to owned, and a few early Juno Awards shows, where Gord was winning them by the basket full.

Today you can buy a 4 head VCR for less than a $100 dollars, and of course DVD machines...aso. :eek: :)

[Patti]

You got a VCR just to see my Gordie baby? :biggrin: Magic. ;)

So they close down drive-ins because of people having recorders? Still, it'd be nice to go out to a movie.

[charlene]

fundraiser in Kansas - daughter of the cook of the Fitz in pic at link:
http://www.abilene-rc.com/index.cfm?event=news.view&id=FF328BD0-19B9-E2F5-460F99D333CC83E8

[geodeticman.5]

Patti-
There's still one drive-in in Denver - down out 'o my Highlands here... but its in a distressed neighborhood turning light industrial.... you see a movie there and your hubcaps are off in the gate at 20 MPH, then u park and your up on blocks while you're smoochin' LOL Don't feel bad Patti I remember cramming *4* guys in the folks Chevy wagon with the far back hatch and mini-seat area - my dad tore the seats out saying the roll-down rear window would "exhaust gas any kids in that seat to death, do to turbulence and backflow" - dad the Engineer.... thats why older wagons had that funny 4" x 4ft wide chrome deflector at the back of the roof - ostensibly to ward off exhaust back flow - now wagons *never* come with that....
-geo steve fellow drive-in delinquent at 17...
p.s. I am ashamed ladies to admit this - but in CLeveland the convention at drive-ins - that had really BAD R-rated movies was.... 16 & 17 yr olds would sneak in.... and spend the whole time honking if they did not see... well... certain female body parts that come in two's on the screen... honk until they "showed 'em" - and you thought I was a gentleman hah ! I blame it all biochemically from hormones and a self-replicating retro-muto-genesis syndrome, much as the Andromeda Strain since Dad worked for NASA - it had to come from Mars - now that we know there is/was water there not my fault.... whistle..... shhh shh

[geodeticman.5]

Nightingale - correct me if I am wrong - but wasn't it "House on Haunted Hill" not "The Haunting of Hill House" ? House on Haunted Hill I recall was with Vincent Price holding the Haunted House Party for his ascerbic wife, offering 1 million to whomever could spend the night - and it was all a sham with the skeleton on marionette strings, pushing people into the acid pit in the night ?

I think.... The movie you referred to was actually called The Haunting of Hill House circa '75 colour circa versus Vincent price per above around '65; B & W by Ralph Castle - known for his cheap in-theatre stage gags - in showings of the Vincent Price one - they would run a skeleton down over the audience on a cable - far cry from the slasher movies kids digest nowadays you could not pay me to watch.... and Castle's other haunting movie was "13 Ghosts" - a real bad saturday afternoon spooker where a Hugh Beaumont-type dad puts on "spectre-vision" glasses that allow him too see the thirteen ghosts - and the audience was given red and green folding "spectre-glasses" that allowed them to see pseudo-3D.-

I believe The Haunting of Hill House, in colour , yes, with Roddy McDowall, and the young woman scratched by the cat - and the ghost was of a man with very short legs. And the "Professor" (who was all along holding a study on fright) purged the house with an electro-magnetron - of course. I saw that in a theatre outside Purdue U in Lafayette, Indiana, double-dating with a guy who is now a monk.. and 2 girls from the University. Great Flick - colour. Both have been remade, and are horrible slashers - kids love 'em of course, not me..

Or, I've got it backwards, and u are right. ?? The monk was at Jaws 1st showing in Lafayette, double dating again, and when the head pops out of the dingy boat half-sunk underwater - my friend was so shocked he threw a 98 ounce Coke in one hand and 5-gallon butter pop-corn in the other - both in his own face - and the girls died laughing.....he was not a monk then safe to say... but corfidites remember my ramblings about the monk.. LOL what memories. Good old spookers. Forgive me if I am wrong Nightingale - I have not checked on-line 2 see if I am right - cause I don't believe in trivial (non GL matters...) in taking research time just to prove someone wrong... AHEM Sir John Ahem harrumph....! j/k ole' friend.
- ~geo steve

[Patti]

Steve,
I guess you you have hubcaps on your car, then? You know, once I had a wagon that might have had some problem like that. I didn't notice any exhaust odor or anything, but if I drove it for any length or time, the next day, I would feel exhausted. I don't if it had that deflector. It might have.
...Mars, yeah, probably.

[Nightingale]

Hi Steve,

You could be right about the movie. I just remember seeing it when I was young...maybe 12 or 13 if my memory isn't faulty on that too...lol.
It had Vincent Price, Roddy McDowell and Pamela Franklin in it for sure. Couldn't say who the other actors were though.
Everyone in my family thought it was so funny because in the move, Pamela Franklin is a 'sensitve' and she tries to help the ghost whose name was ...Balasko.(I think). She lets him crawl in to bed with her and well, whatever...but Pamela makes the mistake of opening her eyes to look at him and screams her head off before she goes completely comotose from disgust and fear.
My older sister told me that the ghost had 'deflowered' Pamela...lol.
I wouldn't sleep alone for weeks after watching that movie. I had no idea what being 'deflowered' meant but I knew I didn't want any part of it! :)

You could be right about the movie...the one I watched has to be somewhere around 40 years old if it was new at the time.

Purdue University...hey, you were in my stompin' grounds when you were there. Only about a half hour from my house:)

[geodeticman.5]

Patti - LOL I used to have hubcaps on the folks ole Chevy wagon in High School when we snuck in those drive-ins... its long gone. Now I drive a 4WD Dodge truck where hubcaps would be.... superfluous, if not too "pimped" or "bling" if I have the colourful colloquialisms right...for a regular guys ride.... LOL fun memories
~geo steve

[geodeticman.5]

Yes Nightingale - you're right - Balasko was the ghost of the man with the unnaturally short legs he lamented in the movie - thats the one ! imho Vincent Price I still believe was in the old B&W House On Haunted Hill where he gave everyone pistols out of party-novelty mini-coffins at the start... and the rope climbed into the impressionable young polly purebread, who was a real screamer pro, and was of course saved by the [I]de rigeur[I] regular guy - the reporter/hero with the press card in his hat for no discernable reason. I am sure you're right though, my memory is probably crosslinked on a few bad sectors. I wonder if the doc can defrag and reformat me ? LOL
-geo steve

[Nightingale]

Hi Steve,

This is funny because after I thought about if for a while, I decided that you are right...lol.
Whatever...maybe we both have it wrong...lol.
I do remember the movie you are talking about. I remember that acid pit...pretty good scary movie:)

Jaws...oh my gosh! Now that was a scary movie!
That opening scene still can give me nightmares...poor girl, bobbing up and down with that confused "what the heck is eating me" look on her face:(
Brilliant! Such a classic...

[geodeticman.5]

Nightingale

Yeah, whichever one was the old B&W one, with the acid pit and the skeleton pushing people into it -- and I gotta say that poor old skeeelatin (as I pronounced it when I was a kid per my parents lol ) looked like a nerfball would send him blown apart into the acid pit himself.... well THAT movie I saw on a Saturday afternoon on TV, and I got so scared by myself downstits in a BIG house - not expensive just BIGGGG, that I got sick to my stomche from fear.

So I matter of factly according to my mother years later told me that I turned the movie off, came upstairs, and said "Mommy, that scary of a movie is not right for a kid my age, it makes me sick I get so scared. So, lets not allow me to watch that "spooker" theatre on Saturdays anymore, OK mommy ?" LOL she said she tried very hard not to laugh, choked on her coffee (she was in a neighborhood coffee "klatch" [ is that correct nomenclature?] and I had said all of this in front of her friends in hats and gloves and stuff and she lost it.....

And so I went back outside into my glorious woods behind my house, climbed a rope in a tree, jumped in leaves (it was near Halloween as I recall) and thought I was the first man to ever explore the trails I went on, having just read the night before one of the science-series books my folks subscribed me to, to "stimulate my mind....", this one was on "Surveying and Mapping" and in the woods I remembered fancying myself to be the weatherhardened nd gravely serious mathemetician standing on the mountain-top, while his "assistant operated the short wave radio". Great memories and scary movies.... later....

[Peter Bro10]

Ok, time to get this thread back on topic!!!
this is a pic that my wife took in Cedar Rapids today... (Cedar River)
Iowa's idea of a houseboat!

[geodeticman.5]

PeterBro and RM:

Sorry for the tangent I went off on there..... man that picture is hard to reconcile with my mental image of Iowa.... that is so sad... and how quickly we forget some things like this. As in - the gulf coast, New Orleans, whole urban areas relocated around to the SW, and _most_ of us start to forget...

It is admirable there are those among us at any given time who are cognizant of the bigger picture going on. I like how the Denver Rocky Mtn News refers to the natural phenomenon/disasters: "Earth Diary" - a daily column that speaks of immense forces of nature around the planet....entire peoples being rendered homeless, whole regional agricultural season's work washed/blown/torn away ., etc... at least brings it to our attention daily....all in a little 4" x 4" column...

Beside it will be a half page article on the cultural aspects of the food festival in downtown Denver..., which, while important, in relative terms overshadowing a whole city being washed or blown away in the little column by it....suggests we need a paradim shift, or at least talking of it for a few minutes every day in schools, etc... not that the cultural aspect of food festivals is not important....

Thank you for reminding us of what, a long days drive away from me, is disaster that ought have more attention paid. I'm embarrassed..... but applaud you for keeping the subject on the table.. I may have missed your mentioning it earlier, but if your wife is in Iowa versus Illinois taking pictures - is she a journalist/photographer, or in insurance or FEMA, etc. ? Is she professionally involved in it , in any event ? I do not mean to ask too personal of questions, only curiosity.

Thank you for reminding me of this...its so easy to loe site of that bigger picture some times. Then again, if we did not cut up, here and there, listen to some Lightfoot, and speak of life's little pleasures or troubles, what a sad world it would be as well. All things in balance.

I am trying to think of the right GL song and/or verse that encapsulates part of this balance of the big and little both warranting attention.... can't bring it to mind... somebody help me here...

Maybe in Don Quixote, looking just at the societal extremes coexisting minutes apart would fit some of this dichotomy: "see the Gentry in the country riding off to take the air..., (only Lightfoot can paint that kind of picture lyrically and musically to me), see the children wake to find the table bare" I thing that is how it goes by memory.

Thanks P-Bro
~geo steve

[Patti]

I liked seeing him sing, "Reaching for his saddlebag ... "

[geodeticman.5]

Patti,

Yeah, I can smell the harness leather in those saddlebag's as Gord sings it; I know what you mean.... " reaching for his saddlebag, he takes a battered book into his hand, and standing like a prophet bold he shouts across the ocean to the shore, 'til he can shout no more.."

Patti when you say you liked seeing him sing about reaching into his saddlebags, did you see him sing DQ in concert, and were reminiscing of that, or was it a simple typo and you were gonna say "hearing him" :headbang: ,
no matter, only curious. :)

PeterBro : BTW - what is that floating in the river ?; looks too flat for the roof of a house... partly my eyes, but I can't quite tell.


~geo steve

[Peter Bro10]

In the picture of the Cedar River, it is indeed what's left of a house.
My wife and the kids were camping just north of Cedar Rapids this past week, with her sister who lives in Cedar Rapids. They spent last night in Cedar Rapids at my sister-in-law's house, which I suppose I should mention was high and dry, (2 blocks from the flood evac zone) before returning home later today. Dani, my wife, who toured the city with her sister related the sad conditions there and just a handful of stories of those who lost so much!
Just an aside here, I generally come to corfid with a light heart... this is where I get some diversion from the stresses and struggles of everyday life. I didn't mean to draw anyone down, I was rather just joking. I suppose I ought to apologize, as that is what's left of someone's Home! But sometimes a bit of leviety helps.

All in all, I was a bit amused at how far off topic we corfidians can get! and with Dani sending me this pic, I thought I'd share it with all of you. I've always been fond of Iowa, and can't hardly imagine what they've had to cope with.

G-man, as George Carlin would say... Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff!!! take care of yourself!

Peace to you all....

[Patti]

Steve, I liked seeing him sing it and also I like what he sings after each time he says it, ... he takes a battered book into his hand ...
... he takes a rusty sword into his hand ...
and
... he takes a tarnished cross into his hand ...

you were looking for a song or verse that encapsulates part of the balance, so since you were already into the Don Quixote song, I thought that would help out some.

So much is going on and some like Don Quixote, do care so much, but no one seems to hear them. ...

Peter Bro10, I know people along the Mississippi in Iowa. I've been there a few times years ago. It looked so beautiful by the river.

[geodeticman.5]

:headbang:Patti Oh I totally get what you are saying on DQ - thanks for adding to my thought of the social disparities, and the imagery in DQ of Nobility and the quest for justice, it surely can tie into social indifference... Very admirable what you added. Sounds like you were exposed to some of the sadness down that way in the flood...makes you think. DQ is my opener in my myspace playlist - not that THAT will matter a whit in a hundred years - but Gords music, and most certainly the flood - will.
You surely caught on and added to the imagery and nobility of what I was reaching for myself there - thanks for the imagery you reminded me and everyone of in DQ too.

Peterbro I hear ya -I come here for many of the same reasons.... good people.... good thoughts,,its infectious, when you're down, invariably someone reminds you of a song that cheers you up, and vice-versa ! :headbang::headbang: . Sounds like an admirable quest your wife Dani was on - to not turn her head to strife, to go and see and feel it, and see if anything reaches out to the humane side we all to often forget.
- Naw I wasn't sweatin' it as G Carlin said - just being polite in cognizance of the important stuff you brought in the thread - and come to find out - you meant some levity as well....very thoughtful...

All's cool PeterBro, I thought I had perhaps impolitely strayed myself to far from the important subject of the thread.. now I know you're not at all sweatin' the little things, and advise I don't either. Sound advice, my man.

When you get down to it, most people only ( in my experience) give just a minor glimpse into some of the greatest humane and compassionate things - or brave/heroic things they have done, and typically out of humility, pretty much do not advertise it or verbally brandish it in social settings. I've been astounded at just the people I have met in this corfid venue, and some of the heroics and personal sacrifice they have endured, and given of themselves, and nary a word of it, unless they feel it will help someone further.What a group of people ~ :clap:

~geo steve