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charlene
03-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Examining the voice of experience

Why do our voices 'sag' when we age? Is there such a thing as plastic surgery for vocal cords?

Mar 23, 2008 04:30 AM
Patricia Hluchy
Toronto Star

When a person hits old age, their vocal apparatus – like their eyes, ears and the rest of their body – gets worn out. In order to speak, we expel air from the lungs. It passes through the vocal folds (or cords), which are ligaments in the larynx (or voice box), causing them to vibrate, which in turn causes sound.

And when the vocal folds start to go, the voice (to varying degrees) sounds breathier, weaker, higher or huskier.

"The voice changes I frequently see are related to the change in vocal fold tissue from aging," says Dr. Jennifer Anderson, director of the voice disorders clinic at St. Michael's Hospital. "First, there is a general loss of muscle with aging, and this can make the vocal folds thinner. Also, the elastic fibres in the vocal folds become cross-linked, which means they do not have the same recoil or elasticity they used to during vibration. Most people complain that their voice becomes unreliable and easily gets tired with prolonged speaking if this age change is significant.

"This is most often seen as bowing of the vocal folds – the vocal folds are thinner and do not fully close during vocalization – and is more common in the 70s and 80s."

Dr. Tim Bressmann, a professor in the department of speech-language pathology at the University of Toronto, notes that the time of onset and degree of voice change in old age are highly variable.

"Think about it like skin aging, for instance. Some people get wrinkles and sagging skin a lot earlier than other people who look just a little bit more buff into an older age."

How you used your voice earlier can also affect the way it ages.

"If you were a good track-and-field runner when you were 15," says Bressmann, "you'll probably still be in pretty good shape later in life if you keep it up to some extent. In the same way, if somebody was a trained speaker or a gifted singer, some of that will likely stick with him or her.

"Older singers will keep their musical ear and will be able to keep some of their pipes. They will not have the whole range, the dynamic range, as well as the pitch range. Usually the voice drops a bit at the high end and comes up a bit at the low end of the vocal range."

Both genders can get what voice pathologists call the presbyphonic falsetto, a geriatric voice with high pitch. Bressmann says that can arise when an elderly person tries to compensate for looser vocal folds that allow air to escape – hence a breathy voice – by stretching and pressing the folds together.

Indeed, Bressmann says that, in general, there aren't drastic differences between the way old men's and women's voices change: Both tend to get higher pitched and breathier.

Lifestyle can also affect how the voice ages. Smoking can irritate the vocal folds and, says Anderson, leave women with dramatically lowered pitch (to the point that they can sound like men when speaking).

Just as those wishing to look younger can plump up their faces with Botox and fillers or lift them surgically, they can now also get their voices rejuvenated.

St. Michael's'Anderson says an individual whose voice has been substantially weakened by bowing of the vocal folds can get a thyroplasty: A plastic shim is inserted beneath a vocal fold to increase its thickness. (The injection of collagen can have the same results, but they're temporary, and the voice can end up being hoarser.)

Anderson has performed the thyroplasty surgery to rehabilitate the voices of a priest, a surgeon and a politician, all of whom wanted to sound louder and less fatigued. But she says it's preferable to try to improve the voice through speech therapy. (The only procedure Anderson performs for "aesthetic" reasons is a pitch alteration for transsexuals.)

According to some reports from the United States, the "voice lift" is a small but growing form of plastic surgery.

So, in years to come, when someone asks, "Do you think she's had any work done," the question may not be about taut skin at all, but rather taut vocal delivery.

podunklander
03-24-2008, 09:54 PM
Julie Andrews had her vocal chords repaired. A risky procedure and a tough decision for her to have to make since there was a high risk that her voice would end up worse than before or entirely shot.

Last I knew, she was satisfied with the results after the long recovery.

charlene
03-24-2008, 10:20 PM
She lost her 4 octave range and hasn't really sung like she once did since the surgery. She also sued the doctors because they didn't tell her of the risks and they assured her that the surgery would eliminate her vocal problems.. She had her operation due to non-cancerous nodules that were affecting her voice.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/17/entertainment/main606987.shtml

podunklander
03-24-2008, 11:53 PM
She is singing better since that surgery Charlene. The repair is more recent (2003, 04 or 05?) ...must of been 2005 since the article you found is from 2004. Last I knew she was satisfied with the results. She feels she is singing much better than before the repair and possibly even better than before the surgery she had that required the repair. This I learned about from my surgeon at MEEI when I was a patient there the same time as her. These subsequent procedures she had were more risky than the other mainly because of scar tissue. I can't seem to find a reference to the repair on the internet...but did find one from when she was looking into it.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/langer-andrews.html

In the article you posted...the 'plastic surgery' was performed on a priest, a surgeon and a politician to restore their speaking voice. For professional singers, I did find a reference to Tyler's surgery. Same surgeon as Andrews and also Dick Vitale.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/feb/05/no-headline---sc2fcvitale05clg-fc/

http://www3.whdh.com/features/articles/healthcast/BO25849/

The technology is improving all the time of course so it will be interesting to see (or hear rather) the benefits of these types of procedures in the future.

RM
03-25-2008, 12:44 AM
. Same surgeon as Andrews and also Dick Vitale.


I would love to have Dick Vitale silenced....he drives me nuts with his pontificating. All in jest....sort of.....

Dream Street Rose
03-25-2008, 04:34 AM
I think my husband would like to have me silenced. :)


DSR

charlene
03-25-2008, 10:21 AM
I only know the name of Dick Vitale thru my sister - he bought a house from the luxury home builder she works for in Sarasota and met him at some charity functions and told me about it..I have NO idea who he is.. http://www.dickvitaleonline.com/journal2007-2-7.html and www.anchorbuilders.com
lol
She did say he's a really great guy..

I can't imagine that there's a guarantee with the type of surgery done tho..my goodness there's so many things to consider that will change the voice..especially for a singer..some have had surgeries and are fine but it's a risk I imagine they feel is necessary..

RM
03-25-2008, 10:41 AM
I only know the name of Dick Vitale thru my sister - he bought a house from the luxury home builder she works for in Sarasota and met him at some charity functions and told me about it..I have NO idea who he is..


Well, consider yourself fortunate. He is a very fine and generous man who goes about his work in a way that makes me shudder. You either love him, or you hate him. I'm sure I'm in the minority.....otherwise he wouldn't be so popular with basketball fans.

Patti
04-05-2008, 11:42 PM
Not to brag, but I was able to quit smoking. In June it will be 10 years since I quit for good. Within just a few weeks I noticed a difference in my singing. It felt better and sounded better.
I quit by drinking lots of water and doing a lot of sweating work. After a few days, I didn't have any real cravings. The cravings got farther apart and shorter in duration rather quickly. I just mostly felt good about not smoking.

Jesse Joe
04-06-2008, 07:07 AM
Congrats Patti, :clap: I myself dont smoke either, not good for anything.