A New Day - "Classic Rock Meets New Age"

[Yuri]

My very good friend and multi-talented musician John Lister has just released a CD which has been described as a "classic rock meets new age".

John Lister has composed, performed and produced music for several decades, generally working behind the scenes on music projects for other people. On this, his first solo CD, he performs each track in the studio, not relying on MIDI or sampling or any other automation to create the sounds. The wind chimes you hear are actual wind chimes, recorded in the studio. Some sounds such as flutes or strings are played on a synthesizer, but all of the tracks are recorded live, as they were performed in the studio.

Besides the synthesizer, John plays drums, bass, electric and acoustic guitars, synth guitar, and percussion instruments. The effect on this CD is "Rock group meets orchestra" with tasteful solos from every range of instruments.

The instruments used on this CD range from modern synthesizers to vintage rock instruments, such as a 1939 Hammond "D" organ and Leslie tone cabinet, a vintage early-sixties Gibson SG electric guitar, a 1957 National slide guitar, a five-string fretless bass, and a modern Ovation acoustic guitar. A guitar synthesizer provides many of the very unique tones on this CD, such as the "choir" voices.

Check out a sample video below

YouTube - The New Morning

http://www.johnlister.ca/anewday/

Yuri

[podunklander]

melodically hypnotizing :) loving this much. Thanks for posting this Yuri!

[Jesse Joe]

Very beautiful, a great talent John is. Thanks Yuri ! :)

[franco]

John has some nice, (albeit a little too familiar) elements layered over a creatively restricted, depressing (sorry), singular chord progression that goes on for the life of the tune. I know that sounds unkind but the tune goes nowhere creatively and for someone who supposedly has all these credentials the effort really is simplistic and comes up short.

That said, and as a bassist, I really enjoyed his guitar lick and you can tell that is his instrument. He should stick to it and collaborate with some formally trained people who really, actually do play drums and keys,(clearly John doesn't) and, hopefully, who he could fall back on for technical and creative guidance when putting together musical compositions. I assume John must be self taught...

Not bad for a first effort but no commercial viability here...makes me think of Zamfir, actually, from back in the '80's........cheers all.

[John Lister]

I felt an explanation of this project may be in order.

The project from which this video comes was originally consigned as a meditation CD, which meant NO drums or rhythm of any kind, and very peaceful, repetitive chords. When the client backed out and changed her mind, I took the project into a slightly different direction, with the gradual addition of classic rock instrumentation which increases the energy and feel of each track.

You state (rather authoritatively) that I 'clearly' do not play drums or keys, but you are quite wrong in that assumption. I have played drums for many years, teaching at the Ontario Conservatory of Music when I first started out. I have also played various keyboards in many situations over a very long period of time, creating succesful jingles, and working with other musicians in too many bands to mention. I won't start dropping names here, some you would recognize, but it is not up to me to defend myself as a musician, it is up to you not to cast insults in the first place.

Your comments on the chord progression sounds very similar to the disparaging one on YouTube, perhaps that has influenced your objectivity.

This piece of music does not show off musicianship, nor is it intended to, other than perhaps the guitar solos, but not all music must be showy to be of good quality, and not all drumming, bass-playing, etc. has to have flash in order to 'prove' that the musician is capable. I find it surprising that you could come to a 'conclusion' about my musical abilities, it shows a real lack of objectivity on your part, and is in fact nothing short of insulting. The drum breaks and keyboard passages in this song are flawlessly performed, yet are fairly simple, as they are intended to be for this style of music.

I was advised by an associate that a video on YouTube would improve visibility by drawing attention to the CD. Becuase YouTube is a place for amateur videos, I went ahead and put the video together with what little video expertise and equipment I have. Obviously, the music was complete before I did the video, so I am 'miming' the instrument parts, and in one of the drum scenes, the visible timing is off. This has nothing to do with the music, nor my ability to play these instruments. Perhaps the video is putting the music in a negative light, by making me appear to be 'faking' it. I am not sure, as this is the first time I have tried doing a music video, and also the first time using YouTube.

I'm actually very surprised and disappointed at your comments, franco, especially coming from another musician. I know there are musicians who only feel 'flashy' and 'fast' songs that really show off musicianship are valid, and there is a place for those, hell I've written them myself, but this track is a relaxing, peaceful piece of inspiring music that takes the emotions from peaceful places on up and then back down again. People who have bought the CD have expressed that it does exactly what it is supposed to, perhaps you were hoping for a different music style? When something is not in the style you prefer, resorting to insults about the person's capabilities won't win you many friends. The drumming and keyboard work on this CD are flawless, granted there is nothing terribly difficult either, other than the organ solo, but a good musician is not afraid to play without the need to show off, if the song requires simple passages. That shows taste, maturity and discernment, not a lack of ability.

Again, I wonder if the video isn't creating a negative impression of the music. I had not heard anything negative until the video was uploaded yesterday. Surely a decent musician isn't going to be confused by an amatuer video to the point where he can't hear what's happening in the music?

[John Lister]

Due to the overwhelming number of attacks on YouTube, I have decided to remove the video. The sound clips are all available at the CD webpage, www.johnlister.ca/anewday (http://www.johnlister.ca/anewday) .

I apologize to those who enjoyed the video, but the poor synchronization between the sound and visuals led many to believe the entire project was merely faked.

[BILLW]

Who the hell is franco ? John I was looking forward to listening to this because if Yuri says it's good - it's got to be good. "Don't let the bastards bring you down" man !

Bill :)

[John Lister]

Thank you Bill. You can still hear the samples from the seven tracks at www.johnlister.ca/anewday (http://www.johnlister.ca/anewday)

I took the video down becuase I was badly out of sync with the music and it looked like I was only pretending to be a musician, because my 'finger-syncing' was out of time.

I had a number of people on YouTube tell me it was horrible, and they gave specifics, franco was pretty much saying the same thing, so I took the video down.

[Yuri]

Who the hell is Franco, indeed? Pretty bold for someone who joined this group this month and wishes to introduce himself with a snarky remark as a first posting. Constructive criticism this was not.
My apologies to my Corfid family and to John himself as I thoroughly enjoyed the piece and eagerly wished to shared it with this group.
Yuri

[Nightingale]

John,
I am sorry that you have had unkind remarks made about your music.
I was here last night and listened to it and I thought it was very beautiful.
I am not one that enjoys new age music that much and I thought your music went way beyond what I expected...boring? I think Franco was just in the mood to be unkind and critical. Makes you wonder how many compositions he has offered up for the world to listen to...

Please don't let the unkindness get you down. There will always be critics but most of them only know what they don't like...they can't and shouldn't speak for the rest of the world.
Best of luck and keep smiling....

Yuri, thanks for posting the video...no apology needed as far as I'm concerned.

[franco]

Bill, you crossed the line by referring to me as a “bastard” and if you were any kind of a man you’d apologize. Somehow I doubt you have it in you….

John, I gave you my honest critique on your work. You were introduced here as being skilled and multi-talented. I heard rudimentary and average. Now, in addition to being a skilled drummer, you hold yourself out to be a drum instructor here also.

Since, according to your web-site, ‘lister.ca’, you are in Cornwall, if a guy from Ottawa like Lorne Kelly formerly the Drumset Performance Instructor for Carleton University’s Bachelor of Music program (1994 to 2001), currently the Drum Instructor for Algonquin College’s Music and Audio specialty, member of the Vic Firth Education Team and writer for Modern Drummer magazine, or maybe even one of the boys from some of the area bands wanted to sit in on a percussion master class, would Steve’s or Long & McQuade in Ottawa or Melody Music in Cornwall recommend John Lister as the “go to pro” for keyboards and percussion? Not a chance.

What are you actually qualified to do? According to your site, you are an expert on meta-physics as well as a professional photographer, and music production yet nowhere to be found are any credentials showing that you have be educated or formally trained in anything..!!

Did you go to school and did you qualify for the ARCT certificate with the Royal Conservatory of Music so you could teach or are you faking that too? Did you even take any formal training and what Conservatory grade levels did you achieve in performance and theory ? Or is it just more B/S?

Your tune was harmless compared to these wild claims of amazing credentials that are just bull ......

[John Lister]

Franco, let me ask you what 'credentials' most top musicans have, people like Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham for instance, and NO, I am not comparing myself to them. There are drummers like Mick Fleetwood and drummers like Lorne Kelly. Obviously Lorne is a thousand times better technically. But there is more to music than technique, much more. Look at Led Zeppelins John Bonham, and how his tempo would drastically speed up. (eg Dazed and Confused) This is the number one sin of drumming, yet he was widely respected for the feel he brought to every song.

I don't know what "wild claims of amazing credentials" you say I have made. I am an accomplished musician, that's it. I know what I can and cannot do on the instruments that I play. I am 'accomplished' at several instruments, like it or not, and without lessons, like it or not.

This CD of mine began as 'meditation music' and was intended to be hypnotic, with gentle waves of increasing and decreasing energy. It is NOT a showcase piece to demonstrate technical skills, there is little technique required as far as musical chops are concerned. That does not mean that I can not handle more technically demanding songs as a drummer, keyboard player, bassist, etc. The strengths of this CD are in the evocation of emotion and deep feeling, it's more about waves of moods than song structure. For you to therefore assume I am incapable of anything more complex simply shows how limited your thinking is, if you base a person's talent only on the degree of speed and dexterity a particular song may showcase.

As for furthering your attack on me to include photography and other areas, and again to question my 'qualifications', again I remind you that the greatest in any field (and again I am not claiming greatness here) are usually not those who took courses in the subject, it came naturally to them, be it photography, sculpture, playing an instrument or whatever. You say 'self taught' as if it is always a bad thing. How many top ten participants on American Idol had qualified voice instruction? Usually none, which is not to put down music instruction, it is just not the only measure of musical or other ability, as you seem to be stuck on believeing.

I taught advanced music theory in TWO instruments for the Ontario Conservatory, and before that taught at other establishments. I played in my high-school band, yet did not take music at all in high school. I also taught private lessons for many years. One of my students went on to have a succesful career in a rock band, again I am not here to defend myself and will not resort to name-dropping. I was able to do this becuase I STUDIED music theory, not in school, but by reading the same books a teacher would be teaching from. I also went out and watched top musicians to see for myself the practical aspects of what I was learning from textbooks. Sitting on my ass and having someone read it to me would have been easier, I decided to learn it on my own, as I have done with other things which is why I am a succesful business owner today, and yes, I taught myself business management, accounting, and much more the same way.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and their own preferences, but I am puzzled as to why you think you should ATTACK something you may not like, comments that I am 'clearly' not a drummer or keyboard player for example. Where do you get off on doing this? Who made you an authority on other people's skill levels, especially when all you've seen is a very simple piece of music that is clearly not intended to show musical technique, but to create an entirely different feeling?

You (and everyone) have a perfect right to an opinion, you don't like the song, you hate the chord structure, you find it boring, etc. But to attack someone and claim they are 'clearly' not a drummer or keyboard player simply shows what your own character is made of, ignorance. When you ask if my qualifications are 'MORE BS' you are being ignorant and insulting. What BS are you referring to in the first place? You call me a 'faker' because someone on YouTube said it about my admittedly poor video skills.

Franco, you crossed the line by referring to me as 'clearly' not a drummer, comments about 'BS' etc. and if you were any kind of man you'd apologize. Somehow I doubt you have it in you. . . hey wait a minute, that sounds awfully familiar!

[Patti]

I really enjoyed that song, John. It's good. I'm glad I got to listen to it before you took it down. One day I was checking out someone's video - exact same one posted more than once. On one there were a bunch of rude comments and on another there were good comments.
"Don't let the bastards bring you down" - I like that song too.

[BILLW]

[QUOTE=franco;135876]Bill, you crossed the line by referring to me as a “bastard” and if you were any kind of a man you’d apologize. Somehow I doubt you have it in you….

Calm down sweetheart - I was quoting a well known song by John Koerner. That's why it was in quotation marks since that's how you show it's a quote.

If I wanted to call you something I would do it directly like this: Franco you are a mean spirited jackass who used this forum for purposes it is not designed. Now do us a favor and go away.

Just to be clear: I was not calling you a bastard but I am calling you a jackass, Jackass !

Bill :)

[John Lister]

Thank you guys, and I have three other songs at www.broadjam.com/johnlister (http://www.broadjam.com/johnlister) including a BLUES number that perhaps does feature a little more musicianship, though I doubt it will meet franco's standards either. It is a simplistic standard blues number, and that's all it's supposed to be. :)

Another tune is from the "A New Day" CD and a third is kind of a love gone bad song that might be good in a movie setting.

I really do appreciate everyone's comments here, including the constructive portion of franco's. I'm glad my friend Yuri turned me on to this group! :)

[franco]

Oh, c’mon John, I have no trouble at all with simplicity and happen to love the blues, there is a beauty in it that appeals to me very much and you’d be really smart to leave this alone now or it won’t go well.;)

Everyone needs to get this, here and now, especially your newest, bestest bud that meat head BillW :kiss:

Right from the start of this, --other than calling your submission the way I saw it, my only problem has been with you challenging my judgment by flaunting phony credentials. It is this simple for me, -your tune is what it is! You don’t seem to be and you got called out on it!

How many emails and phone calls to fellow musicians in Cornwall do you think it takes to get the “whole” scoop on your dismal track record over the last 4 years dude? :eek:

I’m really gonna resist the urge to go into detail here because I was asked not to by some pretty decent folks, but in my defense it was confirmed 3 ways that you are about as much an accomplished drummer / instructor as you are a shuttle pilot. Yes you can rip off a pretty good Ringo as well as the rest of us when the drummer goes for a pee but the notion of you putting on master classes for, even, the local guys evoked sustained laughter.

We probably should leave it there before I break a promise.

BTW. I listened to “You’re Gone”. It’s morbid and depressing to the point that if you weren’t on Zoloft before you listened, you’d need it after. You do have some production shit going on that’s useful. Keep it up! :headbang:

[John Lister]

Let's have a quick review. I post a song you don't like. You criticise the song AND rip into me personally as a musician. I defend my position, then you say "leave this alone now or it won't go well"? That sounds an awful lot like a threat, and I sure hope it wasn't. ...and shouldn't it be I suggesting that YOU leave it alone?

I fail to see where I 'flaunted phony credentials'. Nowhere on my website do I claim to have credentials, all I mentioned in my defense to you, was that I taught at a respected learning establishment due to my understanding of music theory and practical knowledge. It was YOU who came up with the whole "Phony Credentials" thing, and you came up with that out of nowhere, as I've never claimed to have any credentials, nor are there any mention of it on my website. This 'master class' thing is another of your inventions, I never said it, I am not teaching lessons any longer, I haven't in decades, so why do you keep harping on this?

As for implying that you called fellow Cornwall musicians to discover a 'dismal track record', I have only lived here since September and don't know any of the local musicians, nor do they know me. The studio has not been advertised, there have not been any clients yet, becuase the studio's construction and decor is not quite completed. These 'local guys' you speak of only exist in your mind, dude, as I have not been a part of any local music scene here. Nice try though, you seem to have some experience at this - putting people down for no good reason. I have no idea who you made a promise to, but they must live in your mind, as there are no people in this town who know me. Oh, I should make a correction, I recently quit a local band that had not played in nearly a year, and I had played the local bar scene with them prior to that. The drummer who is the leader was quite pissed at me when I told him I was moving on and would no longer be a part of his band. He would be the only person I have known who may have ill feeings towards me, but certainly not due to my capabilities as a musician.

Yes, the tune "You're Gone" was written specifically to illustrate a lost love, and is intended to be a downer. I'm glad it created the desired effect. Apparantly my music can move you after all! :)

Funny how you didn't mention the blues tune that was posted where the downer tune is, perhaps you liked that one, and heaven forbid you say anything good about anyone.

What is downright wrong here, is your entirely fabricated story about my 'track record'. You are making this shit up on the spot, totally fabricating it. Go get a real life, or if you want to write fiction, take a course on becoming an author, maybe your fantasy world can earn you some money that way, assuming you had the qualifications for it.

Fabricating total lies about real people is not going to win you any friends, and in fact, it is illegal, in case you weren't aware. My music background is in an entirely different city, near Toronto, not here. So these promises you made not to spill the beans about this fabricated 'dismal track record' are all in your mind.

You go on to say "Even the local guys sustained laughter", who are these, the people that live in your head? No local people know of me, other than the musicians in the band I mentioned, and I was well respected there, both as a guitarist and as bassist, as the situation demanded over the time I was with them.

As for me putting on 'master classes', those are your words, not mine. I taught rudimentary drumming technique, and can hold my own when laying down tracks in the studio, I said I was accomplished at several instruments, so keep it straight, although the version you seem to prefer is all in your head, not here, not in this town, not this person. You've fabricated a pretty detailed story about a guy who supposedly has a local track record, complete with people laughing at him, and who supposedly claims he has some credentials, and is still considering himself to be a drum teacher, all claims I have never made.

So watch out, it's called slander and it's illegal. What the hell do you have against a total stranger anyhow? This is what mystifies me the most, that you are so hell-bent on insulting and putting down a total stranger. Just what do you get out of it, some sick enjoyment? Give it up man, you're making a laughing stock out of yourself.

[franco]

You win, I'm done........goodbye

[brink-]

Yuri, please since the video if gone and this has gotten nasty and I am trying to restrain myself would you please delete the topic, only you can do that since you started this topic. I don't think we need another war on corfid, it has been so nice and quiet until Franco showed up. He needs to go back to worshipping Ozzy Osbourn and leave the Lightfoot community.

[franco]

Yuri, please since the video if gone and this has gotten nasty and I am trying to restrain myself would you please delete the topic, only you can do that since you started this topic. I don't think we need another war on corfid, it has been so nice and quiet until Franco showed up. He needs to go back to worshipping Ozzy Osbourn and leave the Lightfoot community.


Better still, please delete my account, it's clear I don't belong here. Sorry for the inconvenience and best regards to all...........peace!

[podunklander]

Better still, please delete my account, it's clear I don't belong here. Sorry for the inconvenience and best regards to all...........peace!

Well...do you even like Gordon Lightfoot? If you do, you belong. Too bad you went over the line with your 'critique'...accusations and assumptions, etc. but oh well. Hey - I don't even care for some things I've posted on Corfid (what was I thinking? Was I in a bad mood?)-but I'll feel bad, own up etc., because ultimately, I want to be here because I'm a fan of Lightfoot's music :). And I want to be here more because of the wonderful people here.

[franco]

Well...do you even like Gordon Lightfoot? If you do, you belong. Too bad you went over the line with your 'critique'...accusations and assumptions, etc. but oh well. Hey - I don't even care for some things I've posted on Corfid (what was I thinking? Was I in a bad mood?)-but I'll feel bad, own up etc., because ultimately, I want to be here because I'm a fan of Lightfoot's music :). And I want to be here more because of the wonderful people here.


You are an extremely gracious man and I am greatful for your words but this may have gone way too far to save. I am loathe to admit that I can become too tenacious when I am convinced of my position. I regret offending anyone, especially John, however I feel he was overstating his qualifications. That said, in the big scheme of thing what does it really matter.

In any event I've caused trouble, I see that, and will suck it up. Best I resign and bugger off..."like a ghost in a wishing well"

[charlene]

I will be deleting the nastiness..my goodness Franco the attitude and personal slagging along with the assumptions are really not necessary. We don't speak to each other like that on this board and it seems you joined for the sole purpose of being mean. It's all negative criticism and said in a very ugly way. Yuri was kind enough to want to share a friends' music and we appreciate it for what it is. We don't go off on a person or their talents because none of us are perfect at what we do and wouldn't want the hurtful remarks which you have posted to be said about our efforts.
You need not have posted at all.
I'm sure there are other things on the internet that you can find to amuse yourself.
Please stop posting such crassness to build yourself up.

[Dream Street Rose]

Thank you so much Char. We all really appreciate you and all you do for us. I guess the Franco of the world will come and go. Like every other person who has read his posts I wonder why he even came here. :confused:


DSR

[Yuri]

Well, I just can’t believe where this innocent little thread has gone. I was delighted with the opportunity to share some work produced by talented musician who I’ve been proud to call my friend since I was 17 years of age. John’s sincerity, ingenuity, intelligence and talent are self evident and need no defending from anyone. Diplomas, documents, certificates of accomplishments? Fine, but the school of life has much to offer as well. On this topic I’ll leave pedigrees to the dogs.

I have to wonder what brought Franco to this newsgroup as it is my understanding that although Gordon Lightfoot had some vocal training in his adolescence and studied music composition at the Westlake Music Academy, he had no formal training on the guitar. I have heard Gord himself lament that he has to use the capo and is not a great guitarist. Regardless, the end result became timeless melodies and even the existence of this group.

I shall look into removing this thread in it’s entirety as requested. My only regret that it has given Franco a platform, not to offer polite constructive criticism but rather to display his self importance and venomous views. I regret that our newest member Franco came in with all guns a-blazing with his introductory post to this newsgroup - a fine way to say hello. I will however look forward his contributions and insights on Lightfoot topics in future posts.

Once again, my apologies to John and to my Corfid family.

Yuri

[charlene]

No aplogies from you are necessary Yuri. Franco is a mean little pissant and he's gone.
good riddance to his cruel nastiness.

char

[Dream Street Rose]

Yea Char,

I agree with you and thank you for making him go bye-bye. :clap: :clap: :clap:

DSR

[John Lister]

Franco, may I leave you with this.....may God bless you and give you peace, I harbor no ill feelings towards you, what was done was done, and I wish you well. I would shake your hand but I can't reach Ottawa from here. Peace, bro! :)

(and Yuri, my friend, you have nothing to apologize about, I thank you for introducing my music to this warm group of music appreciators)

[charlene]

John - you embody what is good about the people who post here..we are all good folks, we're fair and kind and generous and protect our own..Franco is welcome back here if he can reign his ego in and play nice.

[Patti]

Better still, please delete my account, it's clear I don't belong here. Sorry for the inconvenience and best regards to all...........peace!

What about this?

[Patti]

Well...do you even like Gordon Lightfoot? If you do, you belong. Too bad you went over the line with your 'critique'...accusations and assumptions, etc. but oh well. Hey - I don't even care for some things I've posted on Corfid (what was I thinking? Was I in a bad mood?)-but I'll feel bad, own up etc., because ultimately, I want to be here because I'm a fan of Lightfoot's music :). And I want to be here more because of the wonderful people here.


And this? (Read this again)

[Patti]

You are an extremely gracious man and I am greatful for your words but this may have gone way too far to save. I am loathe to admit that I can become too tenacious when I am convinced of my position. I regret offending anyone, especially John, however I feel he was overstating his qualifications. That said, in the big scheme of thing what does it really matter.

In any event I've caused trouble, I see that, and will suck it up. Best I resign and bugger off..."like a ghost in a wishing well"


Read this again too.

[Patti]

Thought this was important to put onto the second page also.
How about another chance for franco?

[Patti]

www.johnlister.ca/anewday

Exquisitely beautiful.

[John Lister]

And now I can do what I wanted to do from the start...

melodically hypnotizing :) loving this much. Thanks for posting this Yuri!
Thank you for your kind comments, and for recognizing the purpose of this track, to simply BE melodically hypnotizing.

Very beautiful, a great talent John is. Thanks Yuri ! :)
Thank you Jesse Joe!

BillW: Thank you for seeing the balance in all of this, and I have not 'let the bastards get me down', I've come out a little better prepared for future criticism :)

John,
I was here last night and listened to it and I thought it was very beautiful.
I am not one that enjoys new age music that much and I thought your music went way beyond what I expected...Best of luck and keep smiling....
Yuri, thanks for posting the video...

Nightingale, I appreciate your comments very much as well! Thank you! :)

John is talented and skilled (my EDUCATED, biased and unbiased opinion).
Podunklander, I also appreciate all of what you said too, thank you very much! :)

I really enjoyed that song, John. It's good. I'm glad I got to listen to it before you took it down. "Don't let the bastards bring you down" - I like that song too.

Patti, thank you too, everyone on here seem so warm and kind-hearted. I hope I can stick around without it reminding everyone of the recent battling.

Just to be clear: I was not calling you a bastard but I am calling you a jackass, Jackass !
Bill :)

Bill, that literally had me laughing out loud! I needed it by that point in time! :)

I want to be here because I'm a fan of Lightfoot's music :). And I want to be here more because of the wonderful people here.

And that's my distinct impression - that the people here are wonderful! :)

Yuri was kind enough to want to share a friends' music and we appreciate it for what it is.

Charlene, thank you for that - the purpose of the video was simply to share the music.

Yuri, again I wish to thank you for introducing me to this wonderful group of music appreciators.

I regret that my being here has caused such trouble, but I realize it was not me instigating anything, I just felt I had to speak up, and that is now history, so I'd simply like to put it behind me and get to know some of you a little better.

I grew up listening to GL, I'm 55 and heard GL tunes on the radio quite a bit when I was a teen. The songs made a lasting impact on me.

One last comment, WOW, is it ever tricky to do multiple quotes in a message! LOL

[podunklander]

yeah - how did yo do that John? 1st time I've ever seen someone post multiple quotes like that.

And you're welcome and thank you too. Sorry that Franco posted all those negative things. Hope you don't take any of that too personally. Hey - he called me an extremely gracious man (or something to that effect). Something I don't hear everyday (I'm a girl). So much for his assumptions, eh? (ooops! Can I say "eh" hehe).

[John Lister]

I don't feel so bad, at least franco didn't call me the opposite gender! LOL

You use 'eh?' just like the best Canadian. . .. eh? :)

Criticisms about a piece of music are to be expected. Being told I am clearly not, this or that, and accused of making fake claims of credentials is quite another thing. It was actually a good lesson for me to learn how to handle criticism better. Plus I got to meet all of you fine people!

I think Yuri felt bad over all of this, but it was certainly none of his fault that this guy appeared to harass me.

As for multiple quoting, I opened the same window in 2 browsers, the one I used to compose my response, and the other to quote each person, then copy and paste it into the response window. I had seen it done on another forum and felt this was the time and place to try it for myself! :)

Thanks again for being so understanding, you are a very gracious girl! (whew, I got that right!) ;)

With a name like Podunklander, anything is possible! :)

John

[Jesse Joe]

Welcome to Corfid John, your among friends here. That video Yuri posted was really great. Hope to get to see and hear it again. :)

What BillW posted also made me laugh out loud... :biggrin: Funny guy that BillW... :biggrin: :)

[podunklander]

I don't feel so bad, at least franco didn't call me the opposite gender! LOL

You use 'eh?' just like the best Canadian. . .. eh? :)

Criticisms about a piece of music are to be expected. Being told I am clearly not, this or that, and accused of making fake claims of credentials is quite another thing. It was actually a good lesson for me to learn how to handle criticism better. Plus I got to meet all of you fine people!

I think Yuri felt bad over all of this, but it was certainly none of his fault that this guy appeared to harass me.

As for multiple quoting, I opened the same window in 2 browsers, the one I used to compose my response, and the other to quote each person, then copy and paste it into the response window. I had seen it done on another forum and felt this was the time and place to try it for myself! :)

Thanks again for being so understanding, you are a very gracious girl! (whew, I got that right!) ;)

With a name like Podunklander, anything is possible! :)

John

Was going to be Podunklanderella so there'd be no mistaken my gendah (Bostonian accent...'tis the season :)). I bettah watch my 'eh's' though so I'm not mistaken for a Jays fan (eh?). Oh well, if I let one slip be it known as a tribute to my Canadian relatives near and far.

Pam :)

[John Lister]

Was going to be Podunklanderella so there'd be no mistaken my gendah (Bostonian accent...'tis the season :)). I bettah watch my 'eh's' though so I'm not mistaken for a Jays fan (eh?). Oh well, if I let one slip be it known as a tribute to my Canadian relatives near and far.

Pam :)

Hey Pam,

Pudunklanerella is a lot longer than Pam, but has a certain ring to it. Up here in the cold north, we'll be seeing the grass turn green in the next four weeks, then it'll be time for me to dig out my 'sneakahs'. (my attempt at Bostonian accent) I think that's the correct term you use, we call them running shoes, even though nobody really runs in them.

Hey, I have an ex-piano that hailed from Boston from the 1880s but it lives in my ex's house. So I have at least a little connection! :)

And Jessie Joe, thank you for the welcome! I am looking into upgrading a music website membership so that I can post a video, if that happens I'll be able to link it again. I won't put it on YouTube, too many jerks on there criticizing what they don't understand.

[podunklander]

Hey Pam,

Pudunklanerella is a lot longer than Pam, but has a certain ring to it. Up here in the cold north, we'll be seeing the grass turn green in the next four weeks, then it'll be time for me to dig out my 'sneakahs'. (my attempt at Bostonian accent) I think that's the correct term you use, we call them running shoes, even though nobody really runs in them.

Hey, I have an ex-piano that hailed from Boston from the 1880s but it lives in my ex's house. So I have at least a little connection! :)

And Jessie Joe, thank you for the welcome! I am looking into upgrading a music website membership so that I can post a video, if that happens I'll be able to link it again. I won't put it on YouTube, too many jerks on there criticizing what they don't understand.

A piano? Boston? hmmmmmmm

[John Lister]

I know, Boston is like the piano capital of the universe. Perhaps other universes too! :biggrin:

Here's the piano, it's a Hallett & Cumston, but I no longer own it. It weighs about 1000 lbs and was wider than the doorways, a beast to get into the house!

http://johnlister.ca/loa/pictures/piano.jpg

[talbot10]

Hi John.
Beautiful Music! You really achived great dynamics with the reordings!
Congradulations!
Bill Hall

[John Lister]

Thank you Bill, I appreciate it! :)

[talbot10]

Thank you Bill, I appreciate it! :)


Your Very Welcome John and glad to have you here!

[BILLW]

Just the meathead chiming in. Nice looking piano you HAD there John.

Bill :)

[podunklander]

I love those Victorian pianos. btw John, I was referring to the supposed sunken piano that so many searched for in an attempt to reverse 'the Curse' ...as in the Bambino's ;) Turns out that venture wasn't necessary but the search continues on..unless -by chance did your piano come from Saugus?

[Patti]

Welcome, John.

Hey BILLW, I didn't know that was a song, I just liked how you "sang" it. Sounded good. Later I typed it in at youtube and found a song called "Don't Let the Bastards Grind You Down" by The Toasters. Catchy tune.

[Dream Street Rose]

Hey Patti,

If Borderstone had time to post I am sure he could tell you all about the Toasters. That man is amazing with all music trivia.

Welcome to our group, John. I know you will enjoy it here and like your new "corfid family". Thank you for your wonderful contributions. :clap: :clap: :clap: :)

DSR

[BILLW]

Welcome, John.

Hey BILLW, I didn't know that was a song, I just liked how you "sang" it. Sounded good. Later I typed it in at youtube and found a song called "Don't Let the Bastards Grind You Down" by The Toasters. Catchy tune.


Patti,

The lyrics I was (mis-)quoting are from "Bill & Annie" on the album "Running, Jumping, Standing Still" by John Koerner and Willie Murphy. It's widely available after all these years. A partial review here:

Bill and Annie" ramps up the party again, with one of the best choruses on the album--"don't let the bastards wear you down/don't get hassled to a frazzle."

Amazon.com: Running, Jumping, Standing Still: "Spider" John Koerner: Music

Bill :)

[John Lister]

...unless -by chance did your piano come from Saugus?

It actually came from an auction at a local antique store that was going out of business. It was selling for $4000.00 but at the auction, nobody was very interested in moving it, or finding room in their homes for it, as it is huge, so my ex snapped it up for about $600.00

I found out that the entire system of keys, hammers, dampers, etc. slide straight out of the casing, so I carefully slid it out and repaired a lot of hammers that had fallen off, etc. using Elmer's wood glue. These thin pieces of wood are over 130 years old, so there was a lot to put back in position. I tuned it by ear using a quarter inch tool socket, and now all of the notes work and it's in fairly decent tune.

Sadly, it is no longer my piano, but it was nice to have while it lasted. I did manage to snag a 1939 Hammond "D" organ though, that is here in my home studio! :)

Again, thank you to all for the warm welcome! :)

[Patti]

Hey Patti,

If Borderstone had time to post I am sure he could tell you all about the Toasters. That man is amazing with all music trivia.

Welcome to our group, John. I know you will enjoy it here and like your new "corfid family". Thank you for your wonderful contributions. :clap: :clap: :clap: :)

DSR



That's pretty interesting about that piano that podunklander talked about. Wouldn't mind hearing some trivia about that.
DSR, is Borderstone going to the races too?

[Borderstone]

I'll avoid the nastier parts of this and just say to Mr. Lister
(hey that rhymes! LOL!) .....Bravo! :cool:

[John Lister]

Thank you Borderstone, and I will post links to more of my music in the future, especially if I do more folk-based material. :)