geodeticman vs mapman vs gisman !

[geodeticman]

To all the kind souls who posted friendly Q's regarding my "handle" i.e. geodeticman: I would ask you this. Without any further mention by me of my medical difficulty (head injury et al) except where germaine, I raise it one more time in a request for help on my damaged memory on the mend. A few of you speculated when I mentioned my name used to be mapman , in the time period of roughly 1999 - 2001, when I had last used a computer. One or two of you did some data mining to find mention of an earlier mapman in alt.music.lightfoot and this corfid room as well. The obvious Q arose when it was brought thankfully to my attention, sparing further embarrassmen to me, that as I noted there were at least three other variations of mapman on the 'net currently, and as John Knowles pointed out to avoid confusion about me (thanks :) ) a mapman frequents this GL forum . I also considered at a few forum members request if they could call me shorter versions such as g-man and geoman that there were also some users in this forum by that name. I sure do thank u all for the assistance in helping avoid confusion and embarrassment to me in bringing these things to my attention. I will retain geodeticman in the room, and u can of course, as many do casually, call me whatever u like. But I want point out that when I say I "used 2 b mapman" , i found my memory was wrong, as John's research also supported. from the depth's of my brain's scratched hardrive, I recalled I used to go by gisman , not mapman ! I don't know if it was alt.music.lightfoot i used to frequent around 2001 , but rather i think the chatroom that plumbguru2 , oksky , and some others frequented before it became primarily ( i hope i have this correct, per john knowles kind advice ) a large FAQ and GL data warehouse with lyrics, pics , and concert reviews that I believe has been a monumental effort by plumbguru2, sorry if i am wrong or ont including someone else's hardwork ) John mentioned this in his posting to me cautioning me on changing to g-man etc. , and whre i asked what was shirley hoggard's handle ( solved ) . Well , indeed, I used to go by gisman, but since then '00 ) , the ubiqituous use of gisman has proliferated in several versions when mine grew defunct in the context i believe of gisman@netcom.com ?? . to explain that one, gis stanbds for geographic information systems , and THIS is what I bet Shirley Hoggard will remember ( I will be mailing her ) - gisman. THAT is in use use in so many ways now, even a a name for a forum advisor that is quite technical in the area I work in ( do a google search on gisman ) , and you should see a page devoted to largely computer science , but also GIS systems questions in topology ( not topography ) but rather the mathematical geometric relationships definition analysing point , line , and polygons, and vertices/links intrinsic to how one method of map data is stored for analsyses such as heuristic shortest-route algorithms. sorry walls if this likely last reference to what u despised as technical "BS" but . too bad , and as advised by more tolerant GL forum members, I have raised a non-Gord subject in small-talk. thanks to u all for the all the newbie help in the short 2 weeks or so i have been in this room , and how to avoid pratfalls as i remember how ro use a pc. : ) onward to GORD subjects for me from here on out ! geodeticman - (Steve in Colorado)

[Cathy]

Originally posted by TheWatchman:
You've obviously put a lot of thought into something that you want others to read, so why not make it readable? No offense, just a suggestion.

1. Paragraph: One of several distinct subdivisions of a text intended to separate ideas; the beginning is usually marked by a new indented line. It's most likely a result of his brain injury. Oh yeah... try writing something after your brain has been injured and you'll see just how difficult it can become!

[geodeticman]

Cathy - thank you. could not have said it better myself.

Watchman - no offense taken. And I thought *I* was anal-retentive ! LOL - no offense. hehehe Your point is well made and well received. Just one question on your admirable demonstration of how to use a dictionary and proudly display the results - which I will post on my refrigerator along with my daughter's early elementary crayon drawings. Question being - after taking the time to read a heartfelt and quite difficult posting for me to write (literally and figuratively ) , is the only banal thought you have for me , while trying to reach out to some new friends in our common interest, how to properly indent and write in generally accepted English 102 fashion ? That ia a shame , as I have been very thoughtful and interested in your GL-related postings and admired your well thought-out, and even poignant at times observations ? During my reading of your interesting postings, it has never occurred to me, I repeat *never* to even observe my forum-mates punctuation etc.; not to mention comment rudely or perhaps more generously in your case - making a tentatively polite but presumptious comment ( if one is a bit Machiavellian, which I am not ). Watchman - you stray from what is important in life if this very small occurence is revealing of you. I suspect not though - I suspect you, almost by definition as a GL fan, are a kind and thoughtful "Rainy Day" person. Cathy was indeed correct with regard to the brain injury - but as I do not wish for that to preceed me , rather go ahead and take my chops in the rebuilding process of mental pathways, which indeed include such remedial matters as elementary english education. Perhaps it seems I have a long way to go , as in 1995-1999 I co-authored a 400 - 500 level textbook in GIS mapping science. But that was before the head injury. While that is on hold with my former Geodesy professor awaiting final peer-review and editorial revisions, I did indeed write my "half" of the book sufficiently to satisfy the far more critical (LOL) read by my old proff who makes John Houseman (The Paper Chase) seem like Mary Poppins :) . This proff is co-author, it is in fact under contract still with Ann Arbor publishers at Univ. of Wisc. - Madison . Sadly, the "on-hold" is due to my head-injury , which they have been gracious enough to not sue over while under contract, admirably they have chosen compassion and are not litiguous in the matter. Perhaps that is the message I chose to emphasize - compassion. And, as I have posted before, as GL wrote "...be known as a man who will always be candid on questions that do not relate..." . Sorry for the lack of easier-read punctuation and general lack of intro-body-conclusion format, footnotes, citings, etc. :) When my mind and fingers permit I will be focusing mire likely on white-papers presentations again rather than impressivley-written chat-room writing protocol. I prefer to lean back , put my boots up on the rail, lower my hat to shield the sun, and read friendly colleagues' GL postings with my eyes focused on salient ( even sentient at times ! ) content in what they say, more so than HOW they say it.
But seriously Watchman, I chose grace and dignity in my interpretation of whay you wrote in the end. While I do not understand your pre-occupation in this case, I do remain open to critique and ultimately I know I will benefit if I keep my sense of humour. Thanks Watchman , and BTW , that is one of my all-time favorite songs, too. - DA mapster.

[Borderstone]

Someone pass the Tylenol,that gave me a headache! tongue.gif

I feel like I've just read a transcript of the ramblings in our President's head!! :eek: :D LOL!

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

Dang. Next to John Fowles, he's the typingist man on the board. :eek:

[brink-]

I find what Geo has to say interesting. If the rest of you don't then don't bother reading it. I think everyone here has posted something that isn't of interest to everybody. So don't read it if you don't want to.
Geo, now is the time to sit back, lower the hat and think of your nicer friends.

[charlene]

I do too Brink...it's quite amazing that he and Cathy both have come so far with their respective recoveries. They should be applauded. If syntax/spelling, paragraph indents, or even uninteresting subject matter etc.create a problem for some to read then don't read the post or if you do please exhibit a modicum of decency and a dollop of respect. Saying you mean no offense does not ensure that none will be taken. While you feel you gave none Watchman I cringed when I read your post. My first rreaction was 'such pettiness and arrogance." No offense meant, just an observation.
Please give the respect you would want for yourself, step up above your first reaction and then step back.

[Sheryl]

Geo, you know I like your posts. Keep 'em coming. There's something for everyone here at corfid.

[geodeticman]

To the kind folk who had charitable things to say regarding the grammatically-incorrect posting I made , "bless you all and keep you on the road to better things" .
To those who did not - I offer with the best of intentions this: "...Shake hands with the Father, the Son and the ... Holy Ghost. The impossible believer, and the Heavenly Host....." - u all know the rest. I don't prosthelyze or thump, just remind of being more tolerant as all great religions espouse. You who would criticize reveal even harsher character when I make peace offerings. I am seeing those three monkeys.... or is it those 3 crows on the fence... LOL . one more time - I offer my apology for the faults or uninteresting content. But if just ONE person connects, and there are several, I am content, and Brink , : ) , I AM lowerin' my hat and taking stock of the nice folk in here. To all the kind ones, and even ambivolent but polite.. thanks again.

[SilverHeels]

<<While you feel you gave none Watchman I cringed when I read your post. My first rreaction was 'such pettiness and arrogance." No offense meant, just an observation.>>

Char,that was my reaction too! What on earth has happened to this Forum!
I never expected to find such a lack of compassion and understanding here at Corfid.
If Gord were to ever read these cruel jibes, he would be so ashamed of those posters.
And Geo-man, YOU have no need to apologise.
Keep on posting.

[geodeticman]

Brink , Silverheels, Char, Sheryl, and Cathy,et al who have been kind - I simply say - thank you. And Silverheels, I could not help but think like you what Gord would react with to such petty postings, but I seriously think it would be with sadness and a sense of, perhaps "did they NOT listen to what I wrote ? " I think we share our referential respect for Gord to speculate he would likely be saddened and maybe even admonish; but true to form likely remain philosophical and "be kind in the face of such common disgrace" . Or, maybe, pull out a book and rusty sword and shout to the other shore "Just let it ride" - :) - Steve
p.s. - Cathy how u feelin ? 'PM me when u can. I am preparing a *short* :) letter to that wonderful lady Shirley Hoggard from my wife and daughter and I. I appreciate your and the others' frequent spirit-lifting comments when I am just starting to feel I can't type, or write, avoid non-sequiters, and maintqain a linear progression in thought flow. And then bingo-bango ! U or one of the others bolster me when I am struggling to remember what all has happened in the last 6 years. One thing for sure - while I may have forgotten my name and other embarrassments , i have always known and remembered God, my wife and family, my work, and Gord's therapeutic and thoughtful music - in that order. What more is there ;) you folks keep getting "that feelin' in your soul" - that sustaining and strengthening Lightfoot feeling.
-Steve aka Geoman gisman mapman mapgeek g-man !

[SilverHeels]

Steve, I like your take on how Gord might react to all this stuff and altho you may have trouble remembering some things (and I am sure it will come back in time), I think you can teach us a lot about love and life. I, for one, and I know there are others in this forum, look forward to your postings. When you are feeling down or perhaps a little insecure, you can always contact us - your 'Rainy Day People'.
Hang in there - you are doing great. :)

[charlene]

yes Steve - you are correct in your thinking. I always post and read the posts with the thought of "What if Mr. Lightfoot read this?" Not to say there is any ass-kissing mind you but a generally kind and respectful atmosphere is always a good thing. And in keeping with one (of many) wonderful personality trait Lightfoot has I believe that being humble, having humility holds each of us in good stead in our daily interactions with all others. Like I said before - step up and then step back....it may be the kind thing to do.

[Cathy]

Originally posted by charlene:
I do too Brink...it's quite amazing that he and Cathy both have come so far with their respective recoveries. They should be applauded. If syntax/spelling, paragraph indents, or even uninteresting subject matter etc.create a problem for some to read then don't read the post or if you do please exhibit a modicum of decency and a dollop of respect. Saying you mean no offense does not ensure that none will be taken. While you feel you gave none Watchman I cringed when I read your post. My first rreaction was 'such pettiness and arrogance." No offense meant, just an observation.
Please give the respect you would want for yourself, step up above your first reaction and then step back. Thank you, Char. I was one of the lucky ones. The brain injury didn't mess up my writing skills at all... But I have seen many people in the brain injury program that I attend who are unable to even speak a simple sentence, let alone type one out. I saw it in John in the beginning, although he has greatly improved over the years, and I see it in Geo. I'm sure with continued practice, he'll redevelop those little pathways in his brain that allow him to find easier ways to express his thoughts. And I'm with you. I find his posts to be quite interesting.

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

It's not that we don't find Geomans stuff interesting, because we do (or at least I do) it's just that it strains the eyes to read all of it. To type it in paragraphs wouldn't hurt at all. ;)

[charlene]

While what you say may be true James it's all in the rude way the idea of it was presented that was galling.
And i am sure if geoman could fulfill our wildest fantasies and compose paragraphs and sentences worthy of Shakespeare he would do that. To most of us it's really a non-issue anyway.
If all I had to concern myself was eyestrain while reading his posts I'd be happy - I find myself running to the dictionary with every post.LOL
Geoman is not only exercising my eyes but my brain as well and that's a good thing. I love to learn new words and new things and about new people that come into my life.

As Mr Lightfoot has been known to say -"do the best with what you've got."
I think geoman surpasses that in many, many ways.

[talbot10]

Originally posted by James Suber:
It's not that we don't find Geomans stuff interesting, because we do (or at least I do) it's just that it strains the eyes to read all of it. To type it in paragraphs wouldn't hurt at all. ;) Don't use "we". We does'nt enter into it. Being an insensitive person is strictly your own choice. Yeah ... you got a big problem becuase you have to strain your eyes to read something. consider yourself blessed. By the way..stuff your other apology! it is not believable.
Bill Hall

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

Originally posted by talbot10:
[QUOTE] By the way..stuff your other apology! it is not believable.
Fine, I'm sorry I posted a video of you having a fit at your computer tearing up your keyboard. Happy? :)

[Cathy]

James, has it ever crossed your mind that it takes every bit of Geo's will just to type a simple sentence? Or maybe he just hasn't figured out that there is such a thing as paragraphs yet. You see, we're so used to dividing things into paragraphs that I'm pretty sure we THINK in paragraphs, something Geo still has to develop.
The thing is, with some brain injuries, you have to relearn composition and language skills all over again, and it's much harder to relearn everything the second time around!
Having a brain injury changes your entire way of thinking. You have to develop new ways of doing just about everything... things that were so easy before. And some people, depending on their injury and where it was in the brain, are able to adapt more easily than others.
I believe what he needs to do most right now is practice... practice... practice... And in the mean time, we need to be patient... patient... patient.

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

OK. ;)

[talbot10]

Originally posted by James Suber:
quote:Originally posted by talbot10:
By the way..stuff your other apology! it is not believable.
Fine, I'm sorry I posted a video of you having a fit at your computer tearing up your keyboard. Happy? :) Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy!! that video in itself was not the problem at all.....but did you have to film it while I was in my underwear !!!.
bill hall

[SilverHeels]

I'm beginning to think DMD(or whatever he called himself) has reincarnated yet again!
:(

[geodeticman]

Cathy , you very correct. After the eye operations , I am able to see ! But.... I have to go back over the sentance several times to correct my most eggregious mis-spellings, and as you said indeed... pactice pactice partice. Silverheels, talbot10, brink, charlene, Sheryl, you are most kind and intuitive. Sorry if i miised one or 2 . It is hard to wake up, remember my name with varying difficulty, then desperately try and figure out what day it is, what bills are due, and then after hugging my wife for what must be a full minute not remember how we did the day before. Then go outside and and my next door neighboor's 11 year -old daughter runs up and hugs me and says "Hi Steve!", and I cannot remember her name, though i have seen her thru emergancies and we've baby-sat her as she was growing up for a long time. She knows I cannot remember, but it still brings tears to my eyes. I say this not to draw undue attention to my particular challenges ( I know we all havesome....) but rather to reflect for no good reason what the kind... and otherwise postings brought to mind in my non-sequiter fashion. In My Fashion ! hey , cool. I got one 2 ! to the above kind ppl who responded so nice, I ca't thank you enough. I am begininng toi think I may be in over my head in this forum and its quick-witted majority and sharp-tongued minority. From private postings i know that many of you are recovering or did... from tragic medical events, and I am by no means special or big news. I just thank you for the comradeship. Perhaps when I can indent, make it "more easy to read on the eyes" , seperate into logical paragraphs, etc., then it may be more appropriate to return to this room. I am not meaning to be pathetic sounding, just express heartfelt regret. btw - i just remembered i have a spell-checker ! easy to take such things for granted. Thank for the thoughgtful compliments on some of my content I've written about. As to verbosity, I must apologise and explain briefly. Setting aside my overly-academic background lacking balance, really it comes from humorously listening to dinner table conversations while being raised by absolutely magnificent parents -Ward and Jone Cleaver DO exist ! LOL seriously, Dad is now retired from NASA whwere he was Director of Unmanned Launch Vehicles. He rebuilt the originally trashed Atlas rocket, and built another from scratch - the Centaur. This Atlas-Centaur launch vehicle propelled countless inter-planetary spacecraft into trajectory such as the lunar Surveyor, Viking (the real fist Mars soft Lander !)Mariner, Voyageur ("VYGA from Star Trek One), OAO with Germany , Helios - to the Sun, and countless others. He'd scratch out launch trajectorie and new theory on napkins at dinner, while Mom - a psychologist, who worked in research, would wax enthusiastic on new machines her and Dad were going to build together.....in those days dad would do all intial computations on sliderule, and then do days-upon-days chekcs with original analogue punch-card driven computers. point being..... they spoke in a language I enthusiastically learned so I could ask reasonably intelligent questions for fun. Dinner was moreof a think tank (for them), and an amazement and idolizing of them for me. so... as u can imagine, with a father who wrote IQ tests for CU-Boulder when he taught prior toNASA, and mom who expunged abnormal psychology and theorized it would be found to be bio-chemical abberhations (early insites !) , it wasall i knew as normal to speak in 5, 10, @ $20 dollar words as amatter of routine. been trying all my life to place it in check. well loosing half of my memory helped, butit still burps out at times - and for that I apologize. Perhaps , as I started out to say farther up, maybe I will just lurk awhile to enjoy *your* guys postings on Lightfoot, as thats all i have wanted to share to begin with, or consider getting the bad taste out of my mouth from the very few foul-mouthed ppl who , as far as I can tell, were not this way until I started posting., evidence perhaps being that one perason kindly questioned the room "what has HAPPENED to this forum" with regard, i am sad to say, the ire i seemed to provoke in a few and other who would follow with jeers. its the kind ones i will remember , and believe me - I am SURE Mr, Lightfoot would esily pick out the rainy day people amongst you - didn't take me long. i will once agqain lean back boots on rail, hat down, and ponder all this before posting again for awhile. to those wish to chat - please send me PM's and I'll value them immensely. gots to remember how to typor those full sentences as Cathy put. miss u guys in open exchange for awhile, but the net effect ( no pun) is I have apparently caused more dissension in a room that should be enjoying Gord's work more than condemning or defending me. Ph - and I know that its really only been a small perentage of posting s in the big picture - and Gord talk rules as it should. I have just never had such a problem in a GL room before. I will adjust my attitude first with a hike and some good Gord music, andmy dear wife's company, then look forward to at some point rejoining on more than a lurking basis. in Gord we trust ! - Salute my friends for now ! "her fragrance all... in my keeping" - always thought of this when I caught a citrus waft of fragrance that reminded of my forst love and her perfume, and in turn Gord's "Softly" ".. and it lingered on long after she'd gone..." as wll from "Affair on 8th Ave." . - Peace to all, friends. - Steve geodeticman. :) "keep on mappin'"

[SilverHeels]

Steve,
if you lurk and not post, this forum will be a much sadder place. You are on an incredible journey and I, for one, would like to travel it with you. Try not to let the insensitives here
discourage you. You are doing great, man. Of course it isnt easy. Cathy, I know, can empathise with what you are going through while the rest of us can only care and try to understand.
If you choose, for whatever reason, to merely lurk, then keep in touch with me privately.

[charlene]

Steve - "keep on postin".....please.
remember - practise makes perfect!
And if it doesn't - who the hell cares?
My dictionary is getting lots of use and one day I may even be able to incorporate some of those words into a sentence!
lol

[brink-]

Yeah Steve, you need to re-think the idea of just lurking. I would much rather see you keep posting and like Char I get to wear out the pages on my dictionary too, makes this old brain think. Besides this is good therapy for you, makes you work on getting better while having a good time. Stick around!

[Cathy]

Oh, come on, Steve. You took a big leap when you decided your health had improved enough to allow you to post again. I find your recovery to be quite amazing, and interesting. Don't take it away now!
I little hint.... some people, me included at times, just have a hard time getting through long messages. So, type yours up. Then edit it. Delete what absolutely doesn't need to be said... redundant sentences, parts where you got sidetracked and went off in a different direction. Remember that other people will be reading your posts. Put yourself in their shoes. Ask yourself, "Did I need to include this line... this info?" Eventually, writing will become automatic, and you will be able to stop editing.
But don't stop writing. What you need more than anything is practice. If people have a problem with your posts, they can easily skip them. And if they take the time to read them and type up nasty replies, don't give them the satisfaction of answering. Ignore them.

[Janice]

Steve, I've not replied to your posts in the past because I had nothing that I was able to contribute to the discussion, but I have enjoyed reading everything you have written and unlike some, evidently, have managed to get through it with no problems at all!

I'll add my support to the others above who encourage you to continue posting. Those who don't find it interesting or have a problem with your formatting can easily skip the posts and hopefully keep their snide remarks to themselves. But if the temptation to be unkind is just too much for them to contain, ignore it and realize that most of us find what you have to say fascinating in whatever format you're able to write it.

[Sheryl]

Geo, keep posting! I skip which topics don't interest me, as well as certain posters' comments. It's very easy. Remember that old grade-school adage: "I am rubber, you are glue...." Or maybe you don't remember, LOL! C'mon, post, man!

[geodeticman]

Cathy, thanks for the encouragement again; and all the others above speaking so kindly. You may have noticed Cathy that I have taken your
suggestions to heart and practice has paid off.
I re-read my postings from the last month and am morbidly embarrassed at the overly indulgent ramblings I have taken down miscellaneous lane. My childhood; my wife and daughter, my work and field, even my parents' work !
All in non-sequiter format and in many cases not in the least bit pertinent to the subject at hand I am replying to or following.
I appreciate you all being patient while I have been re-formatting my skills in writing, thinking, trying to stay focused, and.. yes... even punctuation and readability. LOL
As I re-read my posting above to say I would lurk awhile as a matter of good taste because I seemed in other postings to be caught in the middle of, or apparently starting difficulties whout intention.
You've all been so kind, as you can see (groan LOL ) my "hmmph" over just a couple ppl and their lack of understanding which you and others posess Cathy of what I am relearning is now over and I am embarrassed but still posting.
Thanks to all above responses and I'll "keep on postin' " ! Steve - Geo

[Cathy]

Steve, you mentioned in one of your postings in this thread that you have trouble remembering what you did yesterday, or what you have done since your brain injury. Have you ever tried writing you thoughts in a daily journal? I find that I have a better chance of remembering something if I write it down. I keep my journal on the coffee table and write in it several times each day. I have a section dedicated to phone numbers, addresses and appointments, too. Seriously, my journal goes with me everywhere I go!

Also, I bought a small digital recorder. If I have to rememeber to do something, I speak into the recorder... something like, "Go to fiddling tonight. Norman will pick you up at 4:30." Or... "Pay the electric bill tomorrow." And after I pay the electric bill, I delete the messsage. I'm trying to get back to the point where I remember things without having notes strewed all over the place, and the digital recorder really helps! It's also great for recording fiddle lessons. :D

I find I can remember if I kind of check mark it in my mind. After doing something, I'll say to myself, "Now, I HAVE to remember this." It works for me. The thing is, I have no confidence in my memory, so there are times when I'll write a note, speak into the recorder, and even tell Dan to remind me!

Cathy

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by geodeticman:
Cathy, thanks for the encouragement again; and all the others above speaking so kindly. You may have noticed Cathy that I have taken your
suggestions to heart and practice has paid off.
Mr Dunbar
I see that you remembered your actual name when recently posting a very well thought out reply to the original "Gord's Producer thread on the Newsgroup at:-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/browse_frm/thread/b75af2c3ea819625/e8c4a17fae4360bb#e8c4a17fae4360bb
that link is to the entire worth-reading topic
Steve Dunbar's contribution is at:-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/msg/a7e36920803c272a
I for one especially liked your observation therein
"...is it viable for the choir to admonish the kind, aging "priest"
who has f\illed their lives with joy and introspection ?"

In recognition that Steve previously tended to ramble on rather like I do......
(and I too sufferred some brain injury in January 2000 when my right side neck artery gave up the struggle with my over smoking and unhealthy eating and blocked itself thereby starving the right side of my brain causing left side paralysis many hours later)(after I had completed a high speed 250 mile round trip to London and back!!).....
I also thorougly recommend reading his long and detailed but absorbing account of the 1998 Boulder CO taping of he E-Town broadcast at:-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/msg/257af236664d0731
John Fowles

[ March 22, 2006, 10:36: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[geodeticman]

John,

Thank you. Me ramble?.... BOSH!..... j/k ! .

Really, I appreciate the kind review. One Q - did u in fact find where I went by my *real* old name "gisman" ? - did not see it there. No matter. Again, thanks. - Steve Dunbar

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by geodeticman:
One Q - did u in fact find where I went by my *real* old name "gisman" ? - did not see it there. No matter. Again, thanks. - Steve Dunbar Steve after some astute searching on google groups I found

"From: "STEVEN M DUNBAR" <GISMAP...@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: E-Town - Lightfoot show NOT on!
Date: 1998/09/05"
at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/msg/30e2b3b6317856a5?dmode=source&hl=en
a reply to a thread that started with a non-sequitor posting by Valerie Magee at:-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/msg/5e275adbf4871a98?hl=en&

I also unearthed this 1997 message by Blair at:-

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/msg/9591f33698bbc716?hl=en&
"In article <5u7ltc$...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,


gis...@ix.netcom.com(steven m dunbar) writes:
> Moreover, I know
>alcoholism causes some premature ageing for a person.


Don't forget the SMOKING is seriously bad for you skin, too.
--Blair"
but your original message is AWOL!!!
Hope that helps.
just open up alt.music.lightfoot at:-
http://www.newsgroup.notlong.com
and search all groups for "dunbar" there are over 40 of your "ramblings" available to rekindle your old memory banks!!

cheers
John Fowles

[johnfowles]

On the other hand so to speak a google for "gismap" produces over a million results at the top of the list is:-
http://gismap.co.la.ca.us/sols/default.htm
a page headed with a redirection to:-
"State of California Megan's Law Sex Offender Locator"
so that's all right then!!
John Fowles
LOL
Just what were you up to whilst suffering brain damage!!
Better not try to remember!!!

Later...
Ahem I think I am onto something here I refined my search for "gisman" to search within those million results for "lightfoot" and guess what there was but one result viz:-
"Top 100000 Search Engine Porn Sites...
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Oh no not that damn Gordan Lightfoot fellow again!!!

[ March 23, 2006, 08:45: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[geodeticman]

John,
LOL there a couple of doozies you turned up that have nothin to do with me. As I mentioned though, GISMAN produces millions of returns, I get a GIS tech mathematicla toology page.
To get something germaine - key in goggle "Steve Dunbar" + County + GIS - and you will get a page where in the first listing click on the red "view as html" where is says Steve Dunbar, Douglas County Colorado. The Merrick Engineering thing on photogrammetrry specs was an all-day argument I had with them and they used as a resume builder - a .75 million deal on stereo flights of the county and geodeTic densification. - thats me. i don't know about sex offendors - good God where did you turn that up ! LOL hey really thanks for locating some of my favorite old posts John - Steve

[Cathy]

Steve, your profile says your name was gismapman. Your address was gismapman@prodigy.net. You were formerly known as mapman, and mapgeek, and before that G.I.Sman. It's definitely you, because you post under the name Steve Dunbar.

[geodeticman]

John, Cathy, et al:

Thanks for the hard work in finding who I was ! And Cathy yes you found what I can safely say I remember definatively - my original prodigy name and subsequents. eegads that old prodigy su**** !

I have been busy looking up my old postings you guys turned up.... not vanity mind you but a Quixotic quest for "who I was" in the context of GL rooms, and what did I say.

John - I have not forgotten my last name Dunbar as I think you meant when you found a current posting in alt.music.lightfoot you cited... I just forget profoundly basic things including my name at times, much less currently. Good God man where did u find "sex offendors" under my name ! ROFLMAO ! SERIOUSLY though, there a LOT of Steve Dunbar's out there.

If you do a simple google of JUST "Steve Dunbar" you find an odd plethora of academics ( many are from one fellow who has "publish or perish" white paper citings all over...) and indeed there are some strange ones. Rest assured I am quite the "Ritchie Cunningham" of Steve Dunbar's LOL ! ( At least after my wife made an honest man of me at 23.. ).

Hey guys thanks again for you research; it;s oddly comforting to find old postings of mine I would never have remembered, and still don't when I see them now, but they are indeed comforting insites into old damaged sectors of my neural hard drive. WILL SOMEONE please press "defrag and reformat ? !!!! HEHEHE .

Cathy - great suggestion on the pocket minder. Funny thing though... I do carry one at ALL times for just the reason you mention. I also do carry in my kit a small Pearlcorder as well. I just can't remember to always use them, or refer to them, or remember where they are at times... ! (rimshot) LOL. I DO keep a pocket one always in my ...pocket.

It (recovery) , as u both know I now realize, after a brain injury or or carotid blocking etc. is a return to a *disciplined mind* that involves more work than I ever could have imagined, as the group I attend has echo'd.

Thanks for the kind suggestion Cathy ! And John I am still tracing down all the old postings u found. Oh - and I DO appreciate the compliment John on the -e-town post compliment, and the one on irreverance of sorts to preaching to the priest - metaphorically, and the rocking chair. They responded in a very dignified way though to my mild "kill 'em with kindness admonishments", though, didn't they ?

Thanks again u 2 ! - Steve

[Cathy]

Steve, my digital recorder is a very small unit, and I find I tend to use it more often if I just put it on a chain around my neck. Now, if I tuck it into my shirt, I forget it's there, but if I leave it out, at least while I'm working around the house, I'm constantly reminded that I need to keep using it. It has become my backup memory.

I'm quite sure that we'd all be quite amused with our old posts. One of these days I have to take the time to look some of mine up... if I dare even read them.

I don't think that we will ever be able to return to to our old ways of doing things. I think our short term memory will come back some, but not to the extent that it was before our brain injuries. I think we just need to learn how to deal with the loss... to learn other ways of doing things.