bush's address to the american people!!

[Riffstorm]

speak whatevers on your mine! this topic is up for grabs!!

[BILLW]

riff,

Loved it, thanks for asking. Looking forward to 5 more years of Mr Bush as President.

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Riffstorm]

dido!!

[Borderstone]

Speak whatever's on my mind? Okay. First off Riff it's "Ditto" not dido. Dido is a singer. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Well,let's see. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif I laughed hysterically when Bushy talked about a letter he received from a 2 ..er...er 10 year old girl! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif: That was hilarious! Oh! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif The speech was also! Then again,Will Farrell of SNL has always done a great George Bu...huh? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif That wasn't Will Farrell??
You mean that guy on TV who looks like he fell off a Lucky Charms box is really "our" President??!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh!!!

How'd he win for pete's sake?! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/mad.gif
What? He won because there was a screw up in Florida and the Electoral College out-ranks the civilian popular vote?!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/frown.gif

That's it,I'm outta here! I'll be back when...oh the speech? I'd sooner believe Al Gore invented the Internet than anything Georgey Porgey says. I mean,they pre-empted "Frasier" for that!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/tongue.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/tongue.gif Later! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone,gonna post some lines tonight! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[Gaby]

Woof! Woof!

From a poodle on a Minor Outlying Island. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[TheWatchman]

The speech was great from a great President.

Dean is a whacko nut. Clark is too feminine (carries himself like a woman) to lead this country as President. Bye bye Gephardt. Kerry is too angry of a person and way too out-of-touch with the common man to ever get elected. Edwards is fake and he needs to stop sticking his tongue out all the time. Some leaders of other countries could mistake that as something other than what it is.

Bush is un-beatable.

[SomewhereupinMichigan]

Borderstone: I just knew there was some great, underlying reason that I liked you. Now we know! It's your politics! But you know what? It amazes me that some people can have such great musical taste (Gordheads) and then have such poor political judgment as to refer to George Bush and great leader in the same sentence!

[violet Blue Horse]

Barf city.

What I could stand to hear of it.


quote:Originally posted by Riffstorm:
speak whatevers on your mine! this topic is up for grabs!!



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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[Restless]

I ADORE my President and I am PROUD to be an American under his courageous leadership! "Our GREATEST responsibility is the ACTIVE defense of the American people." Precisely. "America has always been willing to do what it takes for what is right." Of which other nation can we say that? Canada? "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." God bless you, Mr. Bush! "We understand our special calling: this great republic will lead the cause of freedom." Amen!

I'm grateful that Lightfoot is, in public, politically silent (except for an early song or two). If he were to voice any opinions severely toward the left, you'd find my entire Gordy collection for sale on eBay! Probably Lightfoot is too humble to have fallen into the common trap of equating fame with importance. May the focus be always on his music!

[BILLW]

riff,

...which is why they say not to discuss politics or religion with a diverse group...but having said that , of those who claim US citizenship on this board I could probably predict those who might voice dislike for President Bush and/or his policies. And if pressed I might be able to pick out the "undecided" folks. But that's why we currently have a two party system.

Another question for those of you who seem to hate President Bush, do you like any of his possible challengers ? And if you do, are you registered to vote for them? Just asking because most of the people I know personally who complain the loudest don't even vote, LOL.

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Gaby]

quote:Originally posted by Restless:
"America has always been willing to do what it takes for what is right." Of which other nation can we say that?

I am sure the the people of the UK sincerely appreciate your obviously well-considered thoughts on this matter; especially the families of our 56 dead servicemen. Also, the grieving families of 2 dead Polish, 1 Danish, 10 Spanish, 17 Italian, 3 Ukrainian, 5 Bulgarian and 2 Thai.

Worlwide 27 countries have sent 24,000 troops to Iraq to support your great president in his "War On Terror".

[Restless]

You're absolutely right, Gaby. Unfortunately, my time is limited and I cannot fit a 7-page address on one post.

In terms of courage, I certainly would place Tony Blair at Bush's side. In fact, he's probably faced even more opposition at home than Bush has here in the States, and so has risked even more for the sake of his citizens.

Bush appreciates the multi-national support, as noted in one of his best lines: "Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in BRITAIN, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Phillippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary [etc, etc, etc]."

As far as willingness to do what is right, America has the best track record of any nation in the world. To be the most powerful and the most morally sound is a unique combination in recorded history.

Now I'm late for work, but the clarification is important. Thanks, Gaby.

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Restless:

As far as willingness to do what is right, America has the best track record of any nation in the world. To be the most powerful and the most morally sound is a unique combination in recorded history.


Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself. As long as Bush is at the helm, the world must take what we say seriously. You threaten our safety and we will take you down. Period. Look at North Korea! They have capitulated what we have been asking for decades. This is only because Bush takes a stand for what is right. He saved us from North Korea and crazy Kim nuking us in the future.

[Restless]

...and we in Los Angeles are within the range of that madman's missiles!

[Gaby]

Well, I was about to post a nice little smily and say to Restless that we should agree to differ on some things and can we, please, be friends.

Do you realise how you are even starting to frighten your friends with statements like “You threaten our safety and we’ll take you down”?

Not all of us who distrust Bush’s foreign policy are woolly-minded pinkos under the bed, you know.

His statement that “If you are not with us, you are against us” terrified a great many people in Europe. It’s an incoherent argument which gives no ground for discussion. The days of imperialist gunboat diplomacy are over (or should be).

You say that Blair probably faced more opposition than Bush, as though it were some badge of honour. Well, I don’t happen to want him risking even more for the sake of ‘his’ citizens.

BTW, we are subjects of Elizabeth the Second. No British person is a citizen. (But I sha’n’t get started on that!) Although, as citizens of a country which fought a war to get rid of George the Third, it’s probably one thing we would agree on (or, maybe not).

Can we now, please, change the subject to something less controversial – like religion or sex?

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Gaby:
Do you realise how you are even starting to frighten your friends with statements like “You threaten our safety and we’ll take you down”?


If that statement should frighten anybody, they wouldn't be friends of the US. A statement like that should startle terrorists and enemies of the US and it's allies. If terrorists or another country is going to kill innocent citizens of this country, we should oil the jaws of our war machine and feed it with terrorists.

[Borderstone]

Truth be told about my politics Michigan,I really don't go far left or right anymore.

When I was too young to vote and up until I could,believe it or not,I was for the Republicans. Not for what they stood for because I didn't understand that part yet. I liked them because Reagan looked and sounded confident and "looked" like he knew his stuff. I especially recall him referring to the Dem.'s as,"Spending like drunken sailors but that would be an insult to sailors because they spend their own money." That was pretty darn funny. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Then came the weapons trading scandals and he looked like a fool,a bit anyhow. In '88 I could finally vote and naturally I chose Bush Sr. Around this same time I started to pay more attention to the news and I just watched this man run the economy into the ground,go back on his no new taxes promise,send our troops to the Gulf just like Jr. (except there was a somewhat more valid reason) and appear to distance himself from the L.A. Riot situation.

After that,I had realized that for the most part the Republicans in office tend to not be on the side of the average American,so I jumped ship to the Democrats. In '92 there was truly no better choice than Clinton. He made a good case for himself in the debates! Ross perot looked like a paranoid dwarf from Oz! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif
People can find all the faults they want with Clinton but in my lifetime,this was truly the best Presidential work I had ever seen! The economy was great and as far as I can see,he made very few political mistakes. I voted for Gore in 2000 but since that got all screwed up,it counted for naught,as it did for all others who did the same. Now,4 years later,I really don't care anymore about political parties. I feel that Republican & Democrat titles mean nothing anymore. They are just that,titles.

Voting straight party tickets is foolish and a waste of your vote as is voting for someone without knowing their qualifications or their stand on the issues. From now on,I read up or observe potential candidates before I vote for them. Then again,if the electoral college negates my vote again,then what am I voting for? Oh well,enough out of me. I'm having a good day and I don't want to dwell on this,at least until Oct./Nov. Later! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone,gonna post some lines tonight! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[Gaby]

quote:we should oil the jaws of our war machine and feed it with terrorists.

Please don’t play mind games with me, Al.

You are bastardising poetry which some people care about.


As the reasons for the carnage cut their meat and lick the gravy,
We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies.

The body bags and little rags of children torn in two
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put the finger right on you.
As the madmen play on words and make us all dance to their song,
To the tune of starving millions to make a better kind of gun.

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Gaby:
Please don’t play mind games with me, Al.

You are bastardising poetry which some people care about.


As the reasons for the carnage cut their meat and lick the gravy,
We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies.

The body bags and little rags of children torn in two
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put the finger right on you.
As the madmen play on words and make us all dance to their song,
To the tune of starving millions to make a better kind of gun.

A little upset Gaby? Very typical. All terrorists should be killed and I hope we can kill as many as we can find. These are the worst kinds of humans there are.

Have you never heard of the war machine before? Or are you simply an Iron Maiden fan? Bastardizing poetry? Oh my. The term "feeding the war machine" has been around long before Iron Maiden. It was a phrase used in WW11. It was even used on the show "MASH". Iron Maiden used it in there song "2 Minutes 2 Midnight". They did not invent this but did add the "feed it with our babies" part. I added "feed it with terrorists". Very fitting.

The song which you copied and pasted is from their "Powerslave" album which has a couple of songs about WW11 on it. The other one is called "Aces High". Are you really a Maiden fan or were you just sleuthing around on the internet with everything that I write?

"There goes the siren that warns of the air raid
Then comes the sound of the guns sending flak
Out for the scramble we've got to get airborne
Got to get up for the coming attack.

Jump in the cockpit and start up the engines
Remove all the wheelblocks there's no time to waste
Gathering speed as we head down the runway
Gotta get airborne before it's too late.

Running, scrambling, flying
Rolling, turning, diving, going in again
Run, live to fly, fly to live, do or die
Run, live to fly, fly to live. Aces high.

Move in to fire at the mainstream of bombers
Let off a sharp burst and then turn away
Roll over, spin round and come in behind them
Move to their blindsides and firing again.

Bandits at 8 O'clock move in behind us
Ten ME-109's out of the sun
Ascending and turning our spitfires to face them
Heading straight for them I press down my guns

Rolling, turning, diving
Rolling, turning, diving, going in again
Run, live to fly, fly to live, do or die
Run, live to fly, fly to live, Aces high.[/b]

If you don't believe this song is about WW11, look at this link. "ten ME-109's"... http://www.cavanaughflightmuseum.com/Aircraft/Me-109/Page1.html

[Gaby]

Actually, Al, I’m not the slightest bit upset.
In a funny sort of way, this is becoming vaguely amusing.

No, I haven’t been doing any ‘sleuthing’. How strange you think I might bother!
Yes! I pasted the words, (I couldn’t be ****** to type them out.) I’ve been an Iron Maiden fan for a long time. I think I’m quite a bit older than you.

Shall I let you into a secret?

During the early ‘70’s, I used to sell The Socialist Worker. (Quite a radical newspaper), one that I’m sure you think should be confined to the depths of hell. (Me, too, now. But, hey, we’re all young once!)

My Grandmother was Sylvia Pankhurst’s secretary (Ask a woman if you don’t know who she was.) and freedom of speech and thought have always been important to the women in my family.

Even worse – I own an engineering factory and some of the components I design (CVJ’s, driveshafts etc.) (not the pick and place units, fortunately) are almost certainly now winging their way to Iraq. How’s that for irony?

Anyway, this is probably, bye bye, ‘ cos, frankly, I don’t feel too comfortable here, anymore.

Gaby.

[brink]

Yep Riff, you did start a storm. My 2 cents worth:Yes all terrorists should be dead, I agree with B I don't vote party lines, I vote for the person. I liked Gary Hart (remember Mr. Monkeybusiness?)I still like some of his politics, and a lot of people are unfaithful in their personal lives that doesn't mean they can't be a decent President. I don't like Bush's idea of allowing illegal aliens stay for years then maybe become legal. I live in a rural area and I have been looking for a job-any job for 7 weeks. I also would like to finish one thing before starting another. Finish the war before making a deal about the aliens before deciding to spend billions on Mars or the Moon and for God's sake take care of the people here in the US instead of everyone else in the world. I don't have health care, and I don't qualify for unemployment because I quit due to health problems. Won't be long until I'm out of savings, but lets spend billions on rebuilding what was destroyed in another country. Too bad all that money was never available for the citizens of the US for health care, education or housing. I can't even imagine how people make it when they have to pay rent now days. It must have just magically appeared from somewhere. As far as the opponents, nope there is nobody outstanding that I can see. And yes, I am a registered voter and I do vote. So go ahead and let me have it.

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[BILLW]

Gaby,

If you're not gone yet I have a question. Why does having a discussion on this " a discussion board " make you feel uncomfortable ? Don't you think life and this board would be terribly boring if all the replies to a topic were just everyone agreeing with one another? BTW you are not the first person to claim to be leaving after they got involved in a discussion. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you would explain your position. Thank You.

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Borderstone]

Although I realy do wish that all people could agree all of the time,I know that's not possible. Still,you tell your side and someone continues to try to sway you to theirs. It can't be done unless that perso has a major revalation on their own. So I just live and let live.

Thanks for your support Brink,about the party lines thing. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
Been me,later
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone,gonna post some lines tonight!:D

[violet Blue Horse]

Well said Brink.

And no, some months the rent doesn't magically appear. I can attest to that.


quote:Originally posted by brink:
Yep Riff, you did start a storm. My 2 cents worth:Yes all terrorists should be dead, I agree with B I don't vote party lines, I vote for the person. I liked Gary Hart (remember Mr. Monkeybusiness?)I still like some of his politics, and a lot of people are unfaithful in their personal lives that doesn't mean they can't be a decent President. I don't like Bush's idea of allowing illegal aliens stay for years then maybe become legal. I live in a rural area and I have been looking for a job-any job for 7 weeks. I also would like to finish one thing before starting another. Finish the war before making a deal about the aliens before deciding to spend billions on Mars or the Moon and for God's sake take care of the people here in the US instead of everyone else in the world. I don't have health care, and I don't qualify for unemployment because I quit due to health problems. Won't be long until I'm out of savings, but lets spend billions on rebuilding what was destroyed in another country. Too bad all that money was never available for the citizens of the US for health care, education or housing. I can't even imagine how people make it when they have to pay rent now days. It must have just magically appeared from somewhere. As far as the opponents, nope there is nobody outstanding that I can see. And yes, I am a registered voter and I do vote. So go ahead and let me have it.

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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[TheWatchman]

Gaby,

I still don't understand the following: Please don’t play mind games with me, Al.
You are bastardising poetry which some people care about." Mind games?lol Oh well. I've been accused of worse.

"During the early ‘70’s, I used to sell The Socialist Worker. (Quite a radical newspaper), one that I’m sure you think should be confined to the depths of hell. (Me, too, now. But, hey, we’re all young once!) Why would you assume I would think this paper should be confined to the depths of hell? Because I am a Christian?

Well, I know that you are reading this because you want to see the responses. Like I said, if my statements make you feel uncomfortable, perhaps you are not a friend of freedom. Sometimes you have to kill so you are not killed. I hate the thought of people dying much less being killed. But I hate the memory of my fellow countrymen being burned alive, jumping from the WTC, having those buildings collapse on them, innocent children being slammed with anthrax, watching friends bodies being eaten alive with biological warfare, the list can go on and on. If it means hunting down and killing those bastards like animals, then so be it.

You cannot sit back and be reactive with terrorism. You have to be proactive, bring them to their knees and fire freely upon them.

[gwen snyder]

Ya know I swore I would not involve myself with this little topic, primarily because the lines of where "things" "issues" etc change so much in the course of these dialogs (could be monologues too, I supppose--especially when they are issues about people eating and insanity reigning). However I have watched opinion upon opinion metamorphise here and sadly no one persons issues are any greater or louder spoken than Brinks', while we all go home tonight and have a warm meal a little t.v. maybe and discussion with family or loved ones we are not teetering on the edge of homelessness. It always seems to me that the little person is destroyed most frequently, why? Our opinions mean little when they are used to bludgeon those incapable of control in their lives. What have we become here on this site dedicated to a man who sings from the bottom of his soul a song about treating others as you would self, to be specific "and the house you live in will never fall down if you pity the stranger who stands at your gate". Brink I don't know what to say to you, except I am sorry that you have to go throught this...and if there is anything I might help you with please ask and I promise I will do what I personally possibly can. We really can overcome terrorism but we cannot become the terrorists, my friends and believe me there is a very fine line between us and them. Let's not destroy one another with hard calculated comments. Let's remember those less fortunate and I mean this to imply those less fortunate in spirit and compassion towards their fellow man so, search yourselves and consider where this topic really has lead you. Could you be some place unfamiliar to yourself? Remember, opinions are so unfair, often even to the person who holds the opinion, for you must live with this opinion. Take care all of you.

[Riffstorm]

My top 10 list on why Islamic people become terrorists!
10. Jelousy
9.irrationalization
8.hatred
7.alah
6.deception
You all can finish the rest! if you please!

[notice what my 5 add up to?]

[forasong]

OK Riffstorm, enough is enough. Polite and mature people don't pour gasoline, throw a lighted match and walk away.Bringing up a discussion on politics in this forum shows bad judgement and is in poor taste. You know that the people who frequent this forum have wildly different and passionate beliefs. Why would you want to pit them against each other? Your latest post will bring up a very nasty discussion about religion and people are even more passionate about their religious beliefs thsn they are about their political beliefs. I suggest that you delete this whole topic and keep your posts to subjects that are not so devisive and inflamatory.

[BILLW]

to gwen snyder,

please speak for yourself, thank you. There is about a 5,000 mile gap between me and any former or present US & allied military folks and "terrorists".

A "fine line" between us, I think not. If you don't believe in evil, that's fine, but because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it does not exist.

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

(spelling, LOL)

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[DMD3]

I have nothing to say...

[TheWatchman]

Your right Bill. There is not a fine line separating us and the terrorists. That comment is so far out there I won't even dignify it with anything else. Man, that one is really out there.

I used to vote for the man and not worry about Democrats or Republicans. Now, I am sorry to say that the Democrats are so far to the extreme left that Republicans must win for the good of this country. Gwen's comment about "the fine line" is a fine example of what I mean by the extreme leftists. That is just uncalled for. By the way, I have always considered myself a Republican but at one point in time you could look at the person, and not political boundries. That is no longer the case.

"Ya know I swore I would not involve myself with this little topic,..." You know GS, you also told us that you were leaving this site but your still here. I guess you go back on your word a lot huh?? Should we take what you say with a grain of salt or should we take you seriously? Just let us know where we stand, pick a position and stick to it.

[gwen snyder]

my position is that we (ie our government)trained all of the deviants that exist to any large or small scale out there in our world...fine line indeed since when we look in the mirror how can we see if we are them or if they are us? Needless to say there are many people who think the way I think here in my humble world full of mouthy irreverants who inflame every issue with there "opinion". Opinions stink. There are so many times that these interlopers have come into this site and created this disorder, yet the reactions continue. I am here WM, get used to it, h*** get comfortable if you like, take off your shoes and set a spell, BS and I won't complain. But, we will give our comments accordingly and you just have to get used to it.

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by gwen snyder:
I am here WM, get used to it, h*** get comfortable if you like, take off your shoes and set a spell, BS and I won't complain. But, we will give our comments accordingly and you just have to get used to it.

Where did you get the idea I had a problem with people "giving comments"? Just because I think you are way off for saying there is just a fine line dividing us and those who bombed the WTC on 9/11, is entirely different than saying that you or anyone else shouldn't post.

Gwen, you stated you weren't coming back and I simply asked if we should take you for your word or simply let it go in one ear and out the other from now on. You like to ride on your emotions and consequently let your emotions control you while you post. Try thinking through things prior to posting. Then maybe you will be able to stand behind what you say. It will also solve the problem of you having to delete your posts when others prove you to be incorrect.

Take a stand when you make bold statements GS. Whether it be about leaving this site or bizarre comments about a contest and the winner receiving a prize. Your word should be honest and forthright.

[gwen snyder]

take a stand ... yes, how appropriate, my stand is I am not in a corner, you are the master of "delete the entire world I created here" if memory serves me right, is this correct or not WM? Approximately one year ago as I recall... but, let's not be rude or obnoxious, the odors get too bad. Let's remember who we are, I am not the anti-Christ or a liar or an unjust ruler of the universe, let's be friends ok. I may not be on the side of all you agree with but, you being here says we are on the same side regarding a musical talent that we both admire. Let's leave it there.

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by gwen snyder:
take a stand ... yes, how appropriate, my stand is I am not in a corner, you are the master of "delete the entire world I created here" if memory serves me right, is this correct or not WM?

Yes, that is correct but it had nothing to do with retracting anything I had written because I had angered somebody or because I thought I had been proven wrong or had displayed some psycho behavior and then was ashamed of it.

People such as yourself were sending me emails saying that you agreed with what I had been posting and then gave me some more ideas to post about. When I did, these people such as yourself blasted me, deleted your own posts and made it look like I was out in left field. I was set-up on more than one occasion and instead of reading each post I had written to get rid of the head games, I deleted them all. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and shame on me.

Now, I will post with a reply so even if someone does delete their post in which I am responding to, their quote will still be in my thread. Too bad I didn't realize this sooner and some of you would not have been able to play such childish games. There you have it.

This thread started out with the President's address to the union. People gave their opinions which is fine. But when people say there is only a fine line separating us and the terrorists, that my statements are frightening to my friends etc., that is not sticking to the topic. It is "rude and obnoxious". Let's put "rude and obnoxious" where it really is. You take a simple thread and have to toss in such extreme un-patriotic crap into it and then say let's not fight when someone rebutts what you write? Come on. If you can't take the heat, don't post controversial opinions in here. I know, that probably makes too much sense.

[Cathy]

For those of you who are getting a little hot under the collar, here's something to relieve your stress.
http://www.hate-crew.com/ordner/pinguin.swf


Click once to activate Yeti's bat and to drop the penguin. Click again to swing the bat.

My highest score was 346.2
Who can beat that???

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[violet Blue Horse]

Not all terrorists are Islamic. Ever been to Ireland?

quote:Originally posted by Riffstorm:
My top 10 list on why Islamic people become terrorists!
10. Jelousy
9.irrationalization
8.hatred
7.alah
6.deception
You all can finish the rest! if you please!

[notice what my 5 add up to?]



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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[violet Blue Horse]

My personal best so far 206.

Ya know, you can get the little bugger almost as far by skidding him on the snow?

And thank you. I needed the laugh.

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
For those of you who are getting a little hot under the collar, here's something to relieve your stress.
http://www.hate-crew.com/ordner/pinguin.swf


Click once to activate Yeti's bat and to drop the penguin. Click again to swing the bat.

My highest score was 346.2
Who can beat that???

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com



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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[Restless]

Me: 306.5

Wife: 311

Who would've thought that committing violence against penguins could be so addictive?

[Restless]

Me: 321.1

Wife: 322.9

Addicted Friend: 323.5

[Cathy]

Jenney Rivard scored something like 485!
I had one hit where the penguin soared so high he went off the screen. I thought, "Ahhh. This is the one to break all records!" Didn't work though. He did a nose dive at 207 feet.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Not all terrorists are Islamic. Ever been to Ireland?





Two words: Tim McVeigh... (sp?)

Three letters: KKK

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[violet Blue Horse]

I've had bunches that went off the screen but then they nose dive somewhere in the 200's. The only way to break 300 seems to be by hitting a grounder so to speak.

317 so far, and I've now got my sister addicted http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
Jenney Rivard scored something like 485!
I had one hit where the penguin soared so high he went off the screen. I thought, "Ahhh. This is the one to break all records!" Didn't work though. He did a nose dive at 207 feet.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com



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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[Riffstorm]

Yes, i did create this topic and yes i and only i create the most havoc...."BEHOLD THE STORM THAT LYES WITHIN".............(yourselves)
For anyone who gets brainwashed to believe that he/she will get into heaven or paradise by mass murdering people and take their own lives and for there families to be compensated for that is................................................ .................................................. .............................xx!

[Riffstorm]

FREEDOM OF SPEECH...........DON'T LIKE IT!!
TO BAD!!TRUTH HURTS,TRUTH SUCKS,TRUTH IS UNCARING......SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! SO STOP BEING NAIVE AND GIVE ME (AND THE REGISTERED MEMBERS) your truth!!

[Riffstorm]

THANKS...YOU ALL BEEN GREAT!
I'LL BE HERE ALL ETERNITY!!

[Sundreme]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
Two words: Tim McVeigh... (sp?)

Three letters: KKK

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com



Sure, you can find bad, bad people in every culture. But do you recall when Tim McVeigh was arrested? Remember the reaction of the crowd outside? They expressed nothing but the deepest distain and revulsion for him. Eventually, our country gave him the ultimate penalty for his crime.
The difference is that Islamic terrorism is not only the most prevailant form of international terrorism today, but in many islamic societies, these terrorists are not reviled, but revered. They are not called terrorists or criminals, but "Shaheeds". Shaheed means martyr.To be a martyr is considered one of the greatest honors in Islam and one of the few ways that a Muslim can assure his or her place in heaven. Suicide is supposed to be forbidden in Islam,but they seem to overlook this little snag when commiting their murderous acts.
You may say, "Oh, but some people admired Tim McVeigh" and yes some people did and do, but the majority would find him to be a repugnant form of life and most Americans would be ashamed he was from the same country as they. However, islamic terrorists are refered to as martyrs, not by small groups of admirers, but even on Arab nations' state run and independent news broadcasts. Homicide bombings are called "martyrdom operations." Yes, I have seen arab news broadcasts, so I'm not getting this information second hand. I've heard them utter these words with my own ears.
When a homicide bomber blows himself to bits, his poster is hung on buildings and he is celebrated. His parents are congratulated for the wonderful thing that their child has done. I'm not saying all Muslims believe this or support this, but what I am saying is that while Tim McViegh and his ilk were supported by a small fringe of society, support or acceptance of Islamic Terrorists is a current that runs through the main stream of many Islamic societies and the Muslims who condemn it appear to be the ones at their societies' fringes.
Erica

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[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
I've had bunches that went off the screen but then they nose dive somewhere in the 200's. The only way to break 300 seems to be by hitting a grounder so to speak.

317 so far, and I've now got my sister addicted http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif



I get the best results by hitting the penguin right in the collar bone. Ouch.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[brink]

Ya know Riffstorm you are beginning to sound like a terrorist. I think we've lost the reason why most of us are here, fans of Gordon Lightfoot. I for one choose now to shut you out, you anger people for your own personal pleasure, who just want to come here to converse. As they say on TV:
YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK! GOODBYE!!

[?]

Riffstorm,you are a nothing. You are a loser. You are a fool. You see evil where there is none. Islamic people that become terrorists are and or were forced to under the rule of evil men. Men who talked these poor souls into believeing they are killing and dying for an ultimate victory and global domination for their country.

You asked us to give our view of the U.S. Presidents speech. We gave you that. We did not care to hear the rantings of a lonely,cynical,delusional & paranoid man that most likely sits home and makes his nowhere plans being the Nowhere Man that you so obviously are. Leave now,before the CIA or FBI track you down. And WE are not kidding. Your choice. Make it. Oh,and shut up.

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
Jenney Rivard scored something like 485!
I had one hit where the penguin soared so high he went off the screen. I thought, "Ahhh. This is the one to break all records!" Didn't work though. He did a nose dive at 207 feet.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

326 for me. 485? That is quite a feet because I can't see how to hit it that far. You have to get enough air but not so much that he nose dives.

[BILLW]

308.1 so far but I'll have my daughter try it later, that'll work.

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Restless]

Great post, Erica/Sundreme. Islamists love death; we love life. Islamists know only how to destroy, to the detriment of all; we create, for the benefit of all. Here's a case where things are absolutely black and white, and anybody who sees gray ought to repair their moral compass.

Gotta get back to swatting that penguin...

[brink]

315.5 and A LOT of zeros.


[This message has been edited by brink (edited January 25, 2004).]

[Jenney]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
326 for me. 485? That is quite a feet because I can't see how to hit it that far. You have to get enough air but not so much that he nose dives.



Yep, not much to do around here lately except hit penquins. The person that sent it to me got in the 500's, she must be even more bored than I was!

Hey, maybe next topic we can talk about religion! Whoo Hoo, that would be fun. Whoops, gotta wipe off my moniter, it's dripping with sarcasm.
Jenney

[TheWatchman]

That game is actually more fun than actually clubbing baby seals on Saturday afternoons.

[TheWatchman]

Is Bill going to send a prize to the person who gets the highest score by Feb 1st? if I remember, there is still a CD floating around somewhere. I would offer my "Rubber Soul" CD but I am afraid people would stop playing the game.

[Sheila Ann]

This penguin smacking is great fun! Have gotten up to 336 but I think my favorite is a nose-dive at 200. Correction...many nose-dives at 200 http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif All I can think of is the little guy in the slicker and hat, riding a tricycle on Laugh In who suddenly tips over...splat! Too, too funny. Mercy...I think I need to get a life. Well...not quite yet...right after I smack a few more 200's http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Sundreme]

quote:Originally posted by Restless:
Great post, Erica/Sundreme. Islamists love death; we love life. Islamists know only how to destroy, to the detriment of all; we create, for the benefit of all. Here's a case where things are absolutely black and white, and anybody who sees gray ought to repair their moral compass.

Gotta get back to swatting that penguin...

Thanks Restless,
Although I'm pretty liberal on most issues, it really frosts my craw when people try to mitigate, downplay and make excuses for the true evil that is Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.
On the subject of the penguin,whose name I deduced to be "Reinhold", I'm addicted to the little feller as well. So far my highest has only been 323.5. I still dont know HOW anyone can possibly get much higher than that,but I guess its possible. It just seems that its programmed not to go past a certain distance. Cathy, Jenny, have you two been able to repeat your highest scores or come anywhere close or was it just a one time thing?
BTW, I mentioned on the newsgroup that anyone who might feel a little guilty hitting a poor defenseless penguin with a big ole Yeti bat, needn't worry about it. Its obvious from his "wheeeeees" and the way he keeps coming back for more that he really enjoys it. Penguins are flightless, so I guess his little trips in the air, via the bat are the only way he can feel like a "real" bird.
Erica

[violet Blue Horse]

What amazes me these days is that people everywhere feel perfectly comfortable about standing around in a room full of people and mouth statements that are blatantly prejudiced and full of hate. It used to be that prejudice was bad and tolerance of others beliefs and life choices was good. It used to be that mouthing blatantly prejudiced statements in public was not done, no matter what your personal thoughts were.

I find it depressingly sad that prejudice won out over tolerance.

Islam is not an inherently violent religion. The Middle East however IS an inherently violent realm. It has been since the time of Teddy Roosevelt. The politics of the region are to blame, not the religion. Blame the individuals responsible, whom ever you think that might be, but do not blame a religion that boasts many beauties and truths.




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[Sundreme]

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
What amazes me these days is that people everywhere feel perfectly comfortable about standing around in a room full of people and mouth statements that are blatantly prejudiced and full of hate. It used to be that prejudice was bad and tolerance of others beliefs and life choices was good. It used to be that mouthing blatantly prejudiced statements in public was not done, no matter what your personal thoughts were.

I find it depressingly sad that prejudice won out over tolerance.

Islam is not an inherently violent religion. The Middle East however IS an inherently violent realm. It has been since the time of Teddy Roosevelt. The politics of the region are to blame, not the religion. Blame the individuals responsible, whom ever you think that might be, but do not blame a religion that boasts many beauties and truths.




And what amazes me is that people want to be so poltically correct that they cannot accept the truth if that truth detracts from their rose colored "everyone is lovely, everything is equal" view of the world.
. You cannot bring up the middle east and then dismiss the fact that it is primarily Islamic. The politics of the region are directly tied to the religion; it has a huge influence on the people there. One can't blame a region for violence as if somehow a geographic area can itself be inherently prone to savagery. Israel is a part of the middle east too. How many Israeli homicide bombers are there? How many Israelis are blowing up airplanes? Of course, when Israel defends itself, some folks try draw a moral equivilant between her actions and the terrorists, but Israel never takes action except out of self defense.
Also, Islamic fundamentalist terrorism stretches far beyond the middle east. It is present all over the world, including Africa, Bali and the Philipines to name a few places. As i said before, it is not all of Islam , nor all muslims that practice terrorism. But to deny that there is more than just a little support for it in the Islamic world or that the majority of organized terrorism today is tied to Islamic extremism is to blantently deny reality.
Erica

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Sundreme:
[snip] Cathy, Jenny, have you two been able to repeat your highest scores or come anywhere close or was it just a one time thing?
Erica

I haven't been able to beat my original high score, which was only 10 feet more than yours, Erica.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[brink]

315.7 that is .2 farther than my first highest score. Still a lot of zeros and many, many nose dives! Three hours straight Cathy and I have only gone 315 feet. He does seem to like it though.

[violet Blue Horse]

Truth always has been and always will be a subjective opinion. Someone who emphatically believes otherwise is usually someone engaged in knee jerk reactionism.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundreme:
[B] And what amazes me is that people want to be so poltically correct that they cannot accept the truth if that truth detracts from their rose colored "everyone is lovely, everything is equal" view of the world.


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[Sundreme]

Truth is not subjective, it is objective. That is what makes it TRUTH. Some things are correct based on factual realities. For example, it is not merely my opinion that the sun rises in the east and sets in the West, or to be more prescise, the earth rotates in such a way that from the vangtage point of one standing on Earth, it appears to rise in the east and set in the west. These statments are factually correct, which makes them true.
If someone wants to purposely argue incorrectly for the sake of argument, then they can deny the existence of East and West,or say that the earth is really stationary and does not rotate at all, but this does not make them correct, nor does it negate the veracity of the original statement.
Whatever "opinion" I offer is always supported by facts and I state those facts whenever I present an argument.
If someone can offer their own facts to repudiate anything that has been said or that can support their counter-arguments then they should do so. Otherwise, without facts to back up those statements, then it is they who are engaging in the knee jerk reactionism.
Erica

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Truth always has been and always will be a subjective opinion. Someone who emphatically believes otherwise is usually someone engaged in knee jerk reactionism.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundreme:
[B] And what amazes me is that people want to be so poltically correct that they cannot accept the truth if that truth detracts from their rose colored "everyone is lovely, everything is equal" view of the world.




[This message has been edited by Sundreme (edited January 25, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Sundreme (edited January 25, 2004).]

[violet Blue Horse]

Some truths are true for all such as the sun always rises in the east.

Some "truths" are not truth but opinion. A wish man learns to tell the difference and does not represent one as the other and then claim not to have done so.

A wise man would also read up on Middle Eastern history and the religion of Islam and try to understand the history of it's people before condeming them all as terrorists.




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[Sundreme]

I dont know who you are suggesting learn about middle eastern history, but if you are refering to me, you are barking up the wrong tree. Believe me, I know about middle eastern history. Middle Eastern history is MY history, it is the history of my people and I know it well.
As far as saying all Middle Easterners are terrorists, I know that I for one, did not do that, so if you are suggesting that, you have now gone from arguing an opinion without facts, to out and out mispresenting others words in order to support your baseless arguments.
You were the one that said TRUTH is subjective, i proved you wrong and you try to change the argument. The facts are that the sun rises in the east, just as the facts are that Muslim extemist are responsible for an inordinate amount of terrorism that exists in the world today. Once again, I challenge you to prove me wrong.
Erica
quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Some truths are true for all such as the sun always rises in the east.

Some "truths" are not truth but opinion. A wish man learns to tell the difference and does not represent one as the other and then claim not to have done so.

A wise man would also read up on Middle Eastern history and the religion of Islam and try to understand the history of it's people before condeming them all as terrorists.

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Sundreme:
you have now gone from arguing an opinion without facts, to out and out mispresenting others words in order to support your baseless arguments.
You were the one that said TRUTH is subjective, i proved you wrong and you try to change the argument.
Erica


She does this all the time. You have blown gaping holes in her argument. YEEE-AWWWW! YEEE-AWWWW! YEEE-AWWWW!

http://www.iroc-zpostforum.com/dean.jpg



[This message has been edited by TheWatchman (edited January 25, 2004).]

[violet Blue Horse]

Please, go get a few good unbiased history books and learn what the Colonizing British and the Americans did and have continued to do to "your people" for the last hundred or so years. Learn the history of the resentment anger and frustration of "your people". Don't you owe "your people" that much?

Yes, the majority of true terrorists in the world today are Islamic. It does not follow however, as some on this board have said " Islamic Terrorists is a current that runs through the main stream of many Islamic societies and the Muslims who condemn it appear to be the ones at their societies' fringes". Statistically speaking, the number of Islamic terrorists in this world are few compared to the number of Islamics in the world. The terrorists are the fringe, not the majoirty. I would guess, being generous to your hypothesis, that it's on the order of one in 800,000 considering what a huge percentage of the world is Islamic. Of course right before that statement you said "I'm not saying all Muslims believe this or support this" so it's really kind of hard to tell exactly what it is you believe isn't it?

So no, you did not say all islamics are terrorists. You did say that those islamics who condemn terrorist violence are few and the fringe however. Close though, eh?

Of course what's truly amazing is that I wasn't even talking to you when I made that post about prejudice. Funny though how you thought I was.

quote:Originally posted by Sundreme:
I dont know who you are suggesting learn about middle eastern history, but if you are refering to me, you are barking up the wrong tree. Believe me, I know about middle eastern history. Middle Eastern history is MY history, it is the history of my people and I know it well.
As far as saying all Middle Easterners are terrorists, I know that I for one, did not do that, so if you are suggesting that, you have now gone from arguing an opinion without facts, to out and out mispresenting others words in order to support your baseless arguments.
You were the one that said TRUTH is subjective, i proved you wrong and you try to change the argument. The facts are that the sun rises in the east, just as the facts are that Muslim extemist are responsible for an inordinate amount of terrorism that exists in the world today. Once again, I challenge you to prove me wrong.
Erica


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[violet Blue Horse]

And once again Watchman you get the prize for the most childish post in this subject.

Proud of yourself?

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[This message has been edited by violet Blue Horse (edited January 25, 2004).]

[Sundreme]

First of all, again I know the history of the mideast. You aren't telling me anything I have not heard. And I look at ALL the sources I can find, even those biased towards a point of view different than the one I might hold. Perhaps you should do the same. I for one, am not afraid to hear how the other side thinks. That's how one learns. As I said, I listen to arab newscasts, and I read Al Jazeera. There is precious little, if any condemnation of terrorism from them at all.
The middle east was colonized yes, so was America at one time. Many peoples were oppressed in this world, it doesnt give them the faintest exuse to go out and commit terrorism. BTW, do not assume that when I say "my people" I mean muslims or arabs. There are other people that came out of that region and "my people" were there long before anyone ever heard of Islam. "My people" were probably one of the most persecuted peoples on the planet, as were many other groups.
The difference is we dont commit terrorism and we dont use past oppressions as an excuse for it.
Again you are changing the argument. First you claimed that I or someone else said that all middle easterners or muslims were terrorists. I never said that and I don't think any one else did. Now you act as if you never claimed anyone said that.
I also pointed out that not all Islamic terrorism is based in middle east. It is a world wide phenomenon. That negates the already unfounded theory that Islamic fundamentalist terrorism is simply a biproduct of the poor, helpless peoples of that region.
The reason I said that not all muslims support terrorism is because, and I'll say it again slowly..."not ALL muslims support terrorism." However, I did say and I do stand by my statement that terrorism and the support for it runs deep through Islamic societies. Does that mean that the majority of muslims support terrorism? Maybe, maybe not. What I do know is that while Timothy McVeigh was villified by his society, Islamic terrorists are celebrated by theirs. What I do know is that the outcry and the protests eminating from muslim communities and individuals against the people and organizations that have commited terrorism has been well, shall we say, "underwhelming."
What I do know is if you condemn terrorism, you dont call the murderer a "martyr", you dont hang his poster on your walls ,celebrate his great deed by passing out candy and you don't congratulate his parents that their child is now a shaheed.
Erica

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Please, go get a few good unbiased history books and learn what the Colonizing British and the Americans did and have continued to do to "your people" for the last hundred or so years. Learn the history of the resentment anger and frustration of "your people". Don't you owe "your people" that much?

Yes, the majority of true terrorists in the world today are Islamic. It does not follow however, as some on this board have said " Islamic Terrorists is a current that runs through the main stream of many Islamic societies and the Muslims who condemn it appear to be the ones at their societies' fringes". Statistically speaking, the number of Islamic terrorists in this world are few compared to the number of Islamics in the world. The terrorists are the fringe, not the majoirty. I would guess, being generous to your hypothesis, that it's on the order of one in 800,000 considering what a huge percentage of the world is Islamic. Of course right before that statement you said "I'm not saying all Muslims believe this or support this" so it's really kind of hard to tell exactly what it is you believe isn't it?

So no, you did not say all islamics are terrorists. You did say that those islamics who condemn terrorist violence are few and the fringe however. Close though, eh?

Of course what's truly amazing is that I wasn't even talking to you when I made that post about prejudice. Funny though how you thought I was.

[Sundreme]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
She does this all the time. You have blown gaping holes in her argument. YEEE-AWWWW! YEEE-AWWWW! YEEE-AWWWW!

http://www.iroc-zpostforum.com/dean.jpg

[This message has been edited by TheWatchman (edited January 25, 2004).]

Now dat's a good one. I'm still laughing picturing Dean and that disturbing yell he gave at the end of his so called consession speech.
Erica

[dodecahedron]

For crying out loud, life is too short!

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
And once again Watchman you get the prize for the most childish post in this subject.

Proud of yourself?



Yes I am! YEEE-AWWWWW!

http://www.iroc-zpostforum.com/dean.jpg

[violet Blue Horse]

Yada yada yada yada yada yada. You sure talk alot. But you don't say much.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundreme:
[B]First of all, again I know the history of the mideast. You aren't telling me anything I have not heard. And I look at ALL the sources I can find, even those biased towards a point of view different than the one I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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[violet Blue Horse]

I figured you were.

How sad.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheWatchman:
[B] Yes I am! YEEE-AWWWWW!




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[Borderstone]

All I can say about that picture is,"LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUMBLLLLE!" http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Borderstone,gonna post some lines tonight!:D

[Sundreme]

LOL,
In other words you don't know as much as you think you did, and cannot defend your arguments or prove mine wrong, but are desperate to have the last word. LOLOL typical. Ok, be my guest. I've proved all my points, I wont post to this thread again, so I am kindly granting you the last word. Have at it.
Erica
quote:Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
Yada yada yada yada yada yada. You sure talk alot. But you don't say much.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundreme:
[B]First of all, again I know the history of the mideast. You aren't telling me anything I have not heard. And I look at ALL the sources I can find, even those biased towards a point of view different than the one I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[?]

can we lock up this thread before it goes on for 100 pages? please???!!

[BILLW]

Riffstorm,

I agree with ? , if you're still around I'll give you 10 bucks (American) to delete this topic. Cash !

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[violet Blue Horse]

No dear.

I know I know a whole lot more than you.

I'm just tired of listening to you yammer on.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundreme:
[B]LOL,
In other words you don't know as much as you think you did, and cannot defend your arguments or prove mine wrong

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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[brink]

Bill, I'll add a ten spot to that.

[Riffstorm]

Brink, like I said stop being naive.If you need someone to put you in your place....I'am that person. So, this is what you should do. Go to G.l. Discussion group and stay there and if your still here you can answer this. If I was the only person who can save your life or your families life would you trust me?
Does that sound like something a terrorist would say to you?
The Bush administration said it best "At all cost"

[Riffstorm]

Brink, like I said stop being naive.If you need someone to put you in your place....I'am that person. So, this is what you should do. Go to G.l. Discussion group and stay there and if your still here you can answer this. If I was the only person who can save your life or your families life would you trust me?
Does that sound like something a terrorist would say to you?
The Bush administration said it best "At all cost"

[catworms]

Brinks favorite food is "Catworms"?

[brink]

Catworms, you must have difficulty understanding what you read, it is too bad that you have joined this forum right now when it has been overrun with negative people who only want to cause discord among people who normally are quite pleasant to be around. Unfortunately you have apparently chosen to follow the negative side rather than enjoy a place to come to and speak about topics related to Gordon Lightfoot. I have always found Lightfoot fans to be extrememly nice, you and your friend riffstorm obviously aren't to be counted among those fans.

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
For those of you who are getting a little hot under the collar, here's something to relieve your stress.
http://www.hate-crew.com/ordner/pinguin.swf


Click once to activate Yeti's bat and to drop the penguin. Click again to swing the bat.

My highest score was 346.2
Who can beat that???

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

I tried but couldn't get in due to too much traffic. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/frown.gif

I'll bet I can beat your score.

[This message has been edited by DMD3 (edited January 27, 2004).]

[DMD3]

Florian would have a heart attack if he came back on this site and saw this topic. I wish he'd come back and unregister the name Riffstorm or keep him from using that name.(Can he do that)

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by brink:
Catworms, you must have difficulty understanding what you read, it is too bad that you have joined this forum right now when it has been overrun with negative people who only want to cause discord among people who normally are quite pleasant to be around. Unfortunately you have apparently chosen to follow the negative side rather than enjoy a place to come to and speak about topics related to Gordon Lightfoot. I have always found Lightfoot fans to be extrememly nice, you and your friend riffstorm obviously aren't to be counted among those fans.

That's Riffstrom using another name.

[?]

class! class! ClASS! CLA......SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUT-uuuup!


Thank you.

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by DMD3:
I tried but couldn't get in due to too much traffic. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/frown.gif

I'll bet I can beat your score.

[This message has been edited by DMD3 (edited January 27, 2004).]

Undoubtedly, all the Lightheads in the universe are trying to break the record. You'll have to wait until all of us old folks go to bed, DMD.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

[Restless]

I believe our beloved Penguin site is telling us to come back in February. (The authors seem to be German, so there is a slight language barrier.) Too much traffic? Are we the cause?

It is beyond reason that anyone could have scored in the 400s. As Yoda might say, "Doubtful, am I. Suspicious, yes!"

(Frankly, sometimes I'd rather take a swat or two at Yoda. Annoying, he can be. Yes!)

[Char1]

try this: http://www.flamjam.com/spank/

Char

[johnfowles]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
I get the best results by hitting the penguin right in the collar bone. Ouch.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com


Good for all of you I only got to about 260
I thought this topic had been deleted and posted the following on the main forum then realised it was actually in small talk:-
I see that somebody very wisely has now deleted the long and increasingly acrimonious topic about The President's glorious speech last week.But for anyone who had not quite done batting the hell out of pinguins might appreciate this game set around a more topical theme-(park) http://www.zooass.com/games/neverland/
Meanwhile the original pinguin http://www.hate-crew.com/ordner/pinguin.swf
is now off line until next month due apparently to too much traffic
But Char found another one at:- http://www.flamjam.com/spank/
which seemed to be refusing to load for me so maybe that is already sufferring from too much traffic too
Well it looks like brink got in to do some spanking!!!




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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

[TheWatchman]

quote:Originally posted by Char1:
try this: http://www.flamjam.com/spank/

Char

I spanked it at 559 mph.

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by Char1:
try this: http://www.flamjam.com/spank/

Char

Do you need some kind of flashplayer? I went there and nothing happened. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

[violet Blue Horse]

New URL for Penguin game
http://meph.eu.org/




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Born once - Got it right the first time. )O(

[MajorSirJerryPending]

Bush is not a bad president. He's a thumping good one if you ask me.

[?]

bush is thumping something all right but it's not his presidensy!!! florian or whoever,lock this stupid topic up!

[Janice]

You know, ?, this isn't one of my all time favorite threads either. I dislike some of the holier than thou attitudes that come across in these heated discussions - or rather accusation slingings, since it's only a discussion when all parties share their thoughts with respect of - even if it's not agreement with - everyone elses thoughts. But I digress....you know what is going to be here when you open this thread, so if you don't enjoy it or don't care to contribute to it - skip it. No one is forcing you to read it. There is no reason for a thread to be removed, just because things are said that aren't popular with everyone. I didn't always feel this way, but now I find that it can be rather amusing to see people make complete asses of themselves - and no, I won't share my list of those who I feel succeeded in that http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Major Surgery Pending]

quote:Originally posted by MajorSirJerryPending:
Bush is not a bad president. He's a thumping good one if you ask me.

I am the one and only Major. You are welcome to the name chum. You obviously have no imagination. If that is your real email address I will eat my entire GL collection, vinyl & CD.

You TOSSER

[MajorSirJerryPending]

quote:Originally posted by Major Surgery Pending:
I am the one and only Major. You are welcome to the name chum. You obviously have no imagination. If that is your real email address I will eat my entire GL collection, vinyl & CD.

You TOSSER

Screw your ass, punk

[MajorSirJerryPendinng]

Your under arrest.


LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!! I'm the worst damn major you ever saw!!!!

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by Waltzing Walter:
All I can say about that picture is,"LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUMBLLLLE!" http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


It's over now, and I'm glad. I still can't get into any of the games. It's the wretched school computers. There ain't a cussword out there to describe these filtering policies.

[Georgie]

Hello. This is your President. I was webb surrfing and I fownd this sight and this tahpic.

I never noo that my Presi-dense-y was that fun-knee. Ya know,I wood knott admit this in the open me-dya but I think (not always but just at this moment) I can here.

I'm gonna lose my job,BIG TIME! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/frown.gif I scared! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif

Even if I do win,my con-stitch-chew-ants will be made up of hate-full pred-jew-dessed people! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif Even the 9/11 people are mad at me. Ya know the fyre-fyters!

I don't de-serve this job! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif I'm going to resign! I can't live this lie any-mower! Sew long my fellow Ameriocans!

[classicmixdj]

318.9 on the hop (Penquin Power)

357 MPH (Monkey Spankin' Time)

We interupt this thread for a track from Gordon Lightfoot. Now, here's "The House You Live In" were it's more Lightfoot and less talk.



[This message has been edited by classicmixdj (edited March 25, 2004).]

[MajorSirJerryPending]

quote:Originally posted by Major Surgery Pending:
I am the one and only Major. You are welcome to the name chum. You obviously have no imagination. If that is your real email address I will eat my entire GL collection, vinyl & CD.

You TOSSER


Munch munch...

[Borderstone]

Will somebody please put a padlock on this topic? People keep breaking in here!

[Doug Letcher]

Wow.

[Borderstone]

Wow? How? Now? Brown? Cow?

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." ;) - Borderstone

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by Borderstone:
Will somebody please put a padlock on this topic? People keep breaking in here!

What would Florian think of this topic??

[Doug Letcher]

quote:Originally posted by Restless:
I ADORE my President and I am PROUD to be an American under his courageous leadership! "Our GREATEST responsibility is the ACTIVE defense of the American people." Precisely. "America has always been willing to do what it takes for what is right." Of which other nation can we say that? Canada? "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." God bless you, Mr. Bush! "We understand our special calling: this great republic will lead the cause of freedom." Amen!

I'm grateful that Lightfoot is, in public, politically silent (except for an early song or two). If he were to voice any opinions severely toward the left, you'd find my entire Gordy collection for sale on eBay! Probably Lightfoot is too humble to have fallen into the common trap of equating fame with importance. May the focus be always on his music!


And what if Mr. Lightfoot didn't agree with your outlook on all things political? Maybe
after hearing your views he would wish you would stay politically silent, as I do. And as for Canada, I am dissapointed in my former leader's decision not to provide support in this war, however, there are many
educated people around the globe that understand Canada's role in the defence of freedom. WW1, we were there, WW2, yup, there too, and as for the people of Holland, they were mighty glad we were there. And as for peace keeping, very few countries dedicate the time, resources, and money that Canada does. The list goes on. I cried along with you when the planes
hit the towers, why, because I love the U.S.A as much as I love Canada. I feel however that Mr. Bush has made some hasty decisions. Those cowards must pay for what they did, and hopefully your new leader if the world is fortunate enough to see a new American leader, will get the job done more efficiantly, and with more of the globe's support.

[Borderstone]

Restless,I'm a registered Democrat but that doesn't mean I look down my nose at others just because their opinions are different than mine. I don't know if you have kids Restless but what if they decided to vote or think "left" when they grew up? You going to stop talking to them? Disown them? Force them to think "your" way?

You know,saying you'd "chuck" all of GL's music if he came out with a leftist opinion makes you a hypocrite. In case you hadn't noticed,even though he's from Canada,his songs could be thought of already to the so called "left". He sings about nature(environmental issue)/the indifference or cruelty of people (human rights or relations)/he sings songs children can relate to "If Children Had Wings" (hope for a peaceful future for them)/"Protocol" "Drink Yer Glasses Empty" (Anti-War?) Dang!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif Sounds quite leftist to me!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif You better toss....no!..Burn your LP's CD's Cassettes or whatever! NOW!!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/tongue.gif Hmmm,burning things that include someone's freedom to express themselves,remind you,Restless,of a German dictator from a little over 60 years ago? Nein? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

Believe it or not,I used to be a Republican but I was younger then and thought they had a better idea what they were doing. I've come to realize that no one has all the answers and anyone who works in high Government,no mattter how well educated or experienced (or lack thereof),can only do what we all do everyday,the best possible job they can.

One last thing,no one in this country or the world has all the answers. Wheather as individuals or as part of some group that believes they do. Life is way too short to worry about right thinking or thinking left. What we need to worry about is the simple common sense thinking,that is,right or wrong!
...and let me ask you,are you on this site because you like Gordon Lightfoot or is just an excuse you use to rub people the wrong way? Because you seem to be doing a lot of that lately. Been me,I'm out! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif (Vote your concience but vote educated!)


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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif - Borderstone

[This message has been edited by Borderstone (edited May 25, 2004).]

[TheWatchman]

Borderstone, put the crack pipe down please. I'm telling you, smoke cigarettes, they're better for you and will toughen you up a bit.

[Borderstone]

Actually this all comes from the sugar rush of M & M's! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif No thanks Watchman,if I want lung cancer I'll go breathe car fumes by the freeway! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/tongue.gif

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." ;) - Borderstone

[DMD3]

You know, a person who smokes rock is called a stoner. And a stoner who likes Lightfoot is a Borderstoner, or better yet, a Borderstone!

If my parents find out he smokes rock, they won't let me back on this site!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Dont get so http://www.corfid.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/mad.gifangryangryangry!

[Borderstone]

What's wrong with smoking rocks??? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

Doesn't everyone like an outdoor Bar-B-Que?? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

Speakin of barbeques.......has Bush's goose been declared officially cooked yet???!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." ;) - Borderstone

[johnfowles]

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
For those of you who are getting a little hot under the collar, here's something to relieve your stress.
http://www.hate-crew.com/ordner/pinguin.swf


Click once to activate Yeti's bat and to drop the penguin. Click again to swing the bat.

My highest score was 346.2
Who can beat that???

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com
And here's one for Jenney
After the original penguin bashing try your hand at the Flamingo Drive http://www.yetisports.org/englisch/playonline.html#
scroll down to number 5 and click on this picture there:-
http://pix.yetisports.org/pix/play_part5.jpg
PART 5 FLAMINGO DRIVE

The Yetisports World Tour 2004 comes to Afrika. With the help of flamingos, Yeti undertakes a absolute funny and incredible amusing safari in the African savanna. Underneath giraffes, over elephants and acacias, catapulted high up to the sky by snakes and carried by vultures, the penguin demonstrates clean flying tricks on advanced level.
I It will take a while to load up then get bashing again

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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

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[Borderstone]

Bush probably went and saw Farenheit 911 and remarked,"I just love those Hobbitt's! (after seeing himself onscreen.) http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." ;) - Borderstone

[IQ]

the end the end the end the end the end the end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[?!Gordon footLight!?]

Why are all of you so pissed about politics? Everyone on here is so 'old' and past their primes it should not matter... just like Bush. He needs to retire before he collapses of being "old", just like the rest of you.

[joveski]

duncan, stop bringing this topic back up to the top.. it dosnt belong here.

i'm sure the moderators can delete it if they want

[stationmaster]

Quick! We have found WMP's in Iraq.
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/waffen/violent-smiley-020.gif http://www.crrange.com/oilrig.gif
"Wells of Mass Production"

[This message has been edited by stationmaster (edited July 25, 2004).]

[LSH]

why did I come in here? again?
YAWN

[TheWatchman]

Duncan, stop bringing this stupid thread back up. Listen to Joveski when he addresses you boy.

[Borderstone]

Not that I'm into continuing this either but just a short comment on last night's D. Convention. After watching this,how could anyone in their right mind and good concience possibly vote for Bush?
I know there are stubborn hardline Rep.'s that will,no matter what Bush does and of course the people that support his views on same gender marriage.
...but overall,I don't see any possible way he can win unless America is actually satisfied with the way things are! If a gloomy future is what they want then (as Clinton said last night)>vote for them! (B. & Cheney & the Rep.s

Been me,hurry up election day,I want to help restore hope!

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." ;) - Borderstone

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Duncan, stop bringing this stupid thread back up. Listen to Joveski when he addresses you boy.

I'll listen to you, but I wouldn't do what Joveski told me to do for 5$. He won't do shit, because he is shit! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[brink]

Douglas would you stop with the swearing? and leave this topic in the gutter where it belongs. You seems to delight in irratating everyone. I'm afraid you have pushed our patience to the limit. Act mature or just leave. I'm sorry but you have just worn us out. We have kids at home, this is our get away.

[This message has been edited by brink (edited July 27, 2004).]

[Borderstone]

I'm going to do us all a favor here. Since I can't delete or lock this topic,
I'll do this--------> I'm going to type a line below and to all that read this & see the line,I want you to avoid the temtation to post a message and bring this back to the top of the list! In other words,don't cross the line! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif It's time this topic ended,now! Besides,does anyone by this time even remember what the Pes.'s speech was about anyway? Of course not,so now.....THE-END!
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[DMD3]

Borderstone, Borderstone gonna cross your line tonight...
JUST KIDDING! I'LL TYPE ANOTHER LINE!

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[stationmaster]

Hey the kid's got lyrical humour! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


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"The station is for travelers even you must ride someday"

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by stationmaster:
Hey the kid's got lyrical humour! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif




Of course, I've been had it. I just haven't had the chance to use it in awhile! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Borderstone]

I give up!!!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif Can't beat 'em etc...

He's been had it??!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

Well,I guess that's better than being Bin Laden!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[stationmaster]

If you can't beat 'em...
http://www.smilieland.com/graphics/0002elvis.gif http://www.smilieland.com/graphics2/einstein6.gif http://www.smilieland.com/graphics2/minime.gif http://www.smilieland.com/graphics2/mrbean.gif http://www.smilieland.com/graphics3/nuts0003.gif

[This message has been edited by stationmaster (edited August 02, 2004).]

[DMD3]

quote:Originally posted by Borderstone:
I give up!!!!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif Can't beat 'em etc...

He's been had it??!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

Well,I guess that's better than being Bin Laden!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Borderstone, Borderstone gonna draw some lines tonight http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif!

[Borderstone]

Please forgive my bringing this topic up but...I can't believe this was already four years ago!

As we know it's getting around election time again and I (honestly!) was going through the older threads and spotted this one and re-read it. :roll: Not exactly our best moment here was it? :(

Anyway,the election is 2 & 1/2 month out and in reference only to "Georgie" finally leaving office come January....let me quote the late Gerald Ford and say this :

"My fellow Americans!" "Our long national nightmare is over!" :cool:

I'll keep my fingers crossed for Super Tuesday! ;)

[talbot10]

Please forgive my bringing this topic up but...I can't believe this was already four years ago!

As we know it's getting around election time again and I (honestly!) was going through the older threads and spotted this one and re-read it. :roll: Not exactly our best moment here was it? :(

Anyway,the election is 2 & 1/2 month out and in reference only to "Georgie" finally leaving office come January....let me quote the late Gerald Ford and say this :

"My fellow Americans!" "Our long national nightmare is over!" :cool:

I'll keep my fingers crossed for Super Tuesday! ;)



How come people can say whatever they want about George Bush and the thread will last for years......... yet if someone speaks out against killing children through abortion or infanticide the thread gets removed??? Why the double standard?
Bill Hall