Blessings

[Restless]

May God bless America and her brave allies.

[Brian 57]

Here we go.

[SilverHeels]

Yes indeed ... here we go. Great shame
they didnt succeed this morning ... better
luck next time, guys!

God Bless and bring all of you back home safe and soon.

[Oma]

Amen!

[mjoe]

Bless you all and keep you on the land or on the sea.

Melissa

[TheWatchman]

"Drink yer glasses girls and boys it's time to hit the sky. To the tune of thunder there's no time to wonder why".

Still relevant for this final attack that will kill Saddam Hussein. Gotta be VERY proud of our troops and thanks to Britain for the extra 40,000 today!

[TheWatchman]

For starters, we are a Christian country and that it why we say God Bless America. We are different than the rest of the world. I am not saying that we are better human beings (although I do know that is the case most of the time when it comes to morals) but rather we are very unique and a beacon for freedom. Actually, I wonder when the day will come that they legislate God out of the vocabulary.

Secondly, if we were to adopt your idea of changing it to God bless the world, we would be seen as bullying our ideas onto countries that are not considered Christian nations. The left wingers would have a field day with this one. My God, we get slack for saying God Bless America, from AMERICANS!!!!!!! They want to get "In God We Trust" removed from money!!! Give me a break! What a bunch of whimps to get offended from something like that. Many think that there is no place for the word "God" in public! Tom Hanks being one of many as he refuses to say God in the Pledge of Allegiance because he may offend someone. Wimp!! Can you imagine the reaction from the rest of the world if we starting to push our ideas about religion on them??? God bless the world? Better think about that one.

[Auburn Annie]

(ducking for cover here, but...)

Isn't this the Gordon Lightfoot forum? Maybe we can post/repost these comments to miscellaneous? Thanks, all.

[BILLW]

Annie,

We've had this discussion before. I think the consensus was that if you weren't interested in a topic, just ignore it. Some times people place things in the Forum that are somewhat off topic but that really can't be helped. At times like these emotions run high and people like to "share" with like minded people. Except that when they do that we find that in many cases the only single thing that makes us "alike" is a love of Lightfoot's music. Politically we cross the spectrum from ultra-leftist self-loathing Americans all the way to apolitical Australians, and many in-between. It's usually what someone considers a "simple" statement that sets off the ruckus. Watch and see.

Peace

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[TheWatchman]

Annie,

There are only 2 people on this forum that can move a topic to the "small talk" section of this site. As I am sure you already know, they are Florian and Char. I agree, it should be in the "small section" but there is nothing that anybody can do and personally, it doesn't bother me at all where it is at. It takes 2 seconds to move a topic to another board.

[violet Blue Horse]

Gods, I was so hoping to come here and not have to hear this crap. If you all want to talk about the damn war there are a thousand freakin forums for it out there on the internet for you to choose from. GO TO ONE OF THEM.

I was so hoping that the people here would have the maturity and the tact to not start this here. Why can you not leave it at the door? I came here to talk about GL. WHY IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? Why is restraint so out of fashion these days?

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Annie,

There are only 2 people on this forum that can move a topic to the "small talk" section of this site. As I am sure you already know, they are Florian and Char. I agree, it should be in the "small section" but there is nothing that anybody can do and personally, it doesn't bother me at all where it is at. It takes 2 seconds to move a topic to another board.





[This message has been edited by violet Blue Horse (edited March 24, 2003).]

[BILLW]

Annie,

....as I was saying, watch and see, some folks only show up when there's fireworks on the schedule.... and some folks only show up to speak gently and respectfully to The Watchman....it's predictable but somehow comforting while we all wait for Gordon to get well enough to say a few words.....

Peace

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[violet Blue Horse]

Lest there be any misunderstanding here, my comments were aimed at EVERYONE who felt the need to bring the situation in Iraq to this board. That would include you Bill.

quote:Originally posted by BILLW:
Annie,

....as I was saying, watch and see, some folks only show up when there's fireworks on the schedule.... and some folks only show up to speak gently and respectfully to The Watchman....it's predictable but somehow comforting while we all wait for Gordon to get well enough to say a few words.....

Peace

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[TheWatchman]

Hey horse,
You should have been a diplomat in this life. Your elegant writing and tactful approach would be sure to settle many diplomatic differences and bring many fueding nations together. Lighten up you furry little critter.

Okay, here's the deal horse. The issue is not whether non-Gord topics are allowed on the this forum. The issue, as I see it is that it is in the wrong board. Again, the moderator, being so ontop of things, should simply move it where it belongs, in the "small talk" section. Then if you don't like the topic, stay away or silence your forked tongue. Now that you know what this topic is about, don't come back.

Nothing wrong with people saying that they support our brave men and women who are fighting for us. Yes, they are even risking their lives to protect those that protest what they are doing. I support the war 100% and if I was younger, I may even enlist to fight for this country. Thank God for those who volunteer to protect us!! They are truly heroes.

By the way, horse, I really enjoy reading all of your insightful posts about Lightfoot. [sarcasism is dripping from my fingertips). It's funny how you always seem to surface when I am around. I hope to God that you are not one of these internet stalkers.

[violet Blue Horse]

For starters BOY, I don't have a forked tongue. Don't start with me. I DO NOT appreciate your condescension. My name is violet. Use that OR NOTHING else when you refer to me.

I have a niece in the Air Force. I can't escape that fact for one bloody freakin minute these days. You'd think maybe, just maybe I could on a board that's supposed to be dedicated to Gordon Lightfoot conversation. BUT NO. All of your God damn egos insist on bringing it up everywhere you go so the whole damn world knows where you stand.

Well I don't give a damn where you or anyone else stands. I just want a spot on the freakin dial where I don't have to listen to a bunch of puffed up shirts talk about a God damn war they don't have to fight from the ease of their God damnm arm chairs.

TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

By the way, try doing a search on my name on this site. I post when I have something to say. I try not to bore other people to death with my opinions unless I truly feel I have something to add to the conversation. Unlike some I could name.

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Hey horse,
You should have been a diplomat in this life. Your elegant writing and tactful approach would be sure to settle many diplomatic differences and bring many fueding nations together. Lighten up you furry little critter.

Okay, here's the deal horse. The issue is not whether non-Gord topics are allowed on the this forum. The issue, as I see it is that it is in the wrong board. Again, the moderator, being so ontop of things, should simply move it where it belongs, in the "small talk" section. Then if you don't like the topic, stay away or silence your forked tongue. Now that you know what this topic is about, don't come back.

Nothing wrong with people saying that they support our brave men and women who are fighting for us. Yes, they are even risking their lives to protect those that protest what they are doing. I support the war 100% and if I was younger, I may even enlist to fight for this country. Thank God for those who volunteer to protect us!! They are truly heroes.

By the way, horse, I really enjoy reading all of your insightful posts about Lightfoot. [sarcasism is dripping from my fingertips). It's funny how you always seem to surface when I am around. I hope to God that you are not one of these internet stalkers.

[BILLW]

Dear Mrs. violet Blue Horse,

I, BILLW, was referring to the comment "May God Bless America and her brave allies" I did not mention IRAQ. In your rage and fury you can't let facts get in your way I guess. I normally email members off the board when things start getting like this but you don't have your email "available". And yes, you do only post when you have something to say, but that DOES and has often included scolding TheWatchman, as you are doing now. I appreciate your niece's service to the USA and I hope you don't tell her that "I don't give a damn where you or anyone else stands". Please send her our best wishes.

Sincerely,
BILLW

(Bill to my friends http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif )

[Janice]

Like Violet I would like a place to escape the brutal realities of the world, even if it’s just for a brief moment. A lighthearted place where seemingly frivolous things such as first Lightfoot concerts, favorite songs, deep rooted meanings behind lyrics, etc., can be discussed. The war is just such a volatile topic right now. Folks are very passionate about their beliefs and feelings, as they should be. But those heightened emotions bring about unkind comments. If hanging around here these past three years has taught me nothing else, it’s taught me that one unkind comment always begats another. That’s just what happens when you have a large group of people with primarily one thing in common. There are other forums specifically designed to discuss these issues. Places where the passion and conviction about these matters is welcomed and encouraged.

That being said, now that the subject of the war has made it’s way to our peaceful little community, I have to agree with Watchman in that if this is not a subject you want to read or participate in, don’t click on the little red folder next to the topic titled “Blessings” – it’s as simple as that. One of the reasons discussion boards are separated into threads is so there can be more than one discussion going on at any given time and you only have to participate in the ones that interest you. There are hundreds of other topics listed on this message board that you can respond to or expand on. If no one is talking about something that you want to contribute to -- Hello!!!-- start a new thread!

Understandably, some folks may not visit often enough to realize just what is being discussed in the “Blessings” thread until they find themselves in the middle of it for the first time. Or maybe folks view this board like I do by clicking the next topic button – not really knowing what that topic might be. All I’m suggesting is that if you’re reading this thread for the first time and you’re insulted, appalled, put out, whatever, about the topic itself (not the contents, just the subject of war/politics), please try to be strong and just click “Next Topic” Everyone here – those actively discussing the war and it’s various politics and those who aren’t – knows and understands that this is not the ideal or best suited spot for the discussion, but this is where it is and it won’t kill us to just deal with that until, unfueled, it filters to the bottom of the list. Especially since, in the interest of harmony, it’s so easy just to avoid the “Blessings” topic if it’s not one you have an interest in. In the same vein, hopefully those who are interested in discussing the war and it’s politics, out of respect for others, will continue their discussion either in Small Talk or in a forum specifically designed for that purpose. And no, I don’t necessarily mean transfer this thread - it doesn’t take a moderator for one of you to start a new topic in Small Talk. Either way, arguing about what we have the right to discuss and don’t have the right to discuss or where it can or can’t be discussed is as futile as arguing about religion and politics – there’s no right or wrong, just individual passionate beliefs.

Janice

[TheWatchman]

horse,

I'm cool with boy and what other names you want to give me. I've been called worse and I am sure even by you. A bit of advice: let stuff like names roll off your back. Be strong enough to look at the real issues and not simple things like names. It will hopefully reduce your anger.

As far as I can tell, you refer to yourself as a horse in your name. Either you are referring to a horse that is violet blue in color, or you are describing yourself. Either way, a horse is a horse, of course, of course. If the word horse bothers you so much, change your name to violet blue, or violet green, violet blue-green etc. It really is a simple fix to change a name that you do not like, which you picked all by yourself. So, I will continue to call you horse, for short, because it is a part of your name. For example "PaddleToTheSea" is often referred to as simply "paddle". Get my drift yet? Good. An important point too I might add is you went through the trouble of adding "horse" to your name.

The war is important and should be talked about by anyone who wishes to do so. Again, obviously, you don't, so I say to you politely, stay away from this thread.

I went back and re-read everything up until you posted. I could not find any strong statements that would offend anybody (at least from my point of view). There was the post about how wrong it was to say God bless America and I assume that did not tick you off. I guess what made you so angry to lash out was my comments on why that was a bad idea. Not in any way a religious reason, but rather citing the liberal left wing and their personal motives for what they do. I'm going out on a limb here, but I assume that is what made you mad. I guess it doesn't really matter at this point because you are only spouting off about maintenence issues on this forum as there are no valid facts to support accusations that you have made.

I really can't see where this thread was arguing, fighting or anything else other than civil coversation until you came along, horse. You are the one that always turns discussions into fighting. Just because a thread turns into serious discussions about issues, (this one was not) does not give you the right to start posting irresponsibly and come out shooting with both barrels.

You need to learn tact. You need to learn humility. You need to learn to control yourself. You need to find out why you have so much deep seated anger. You shouldn't let other issues spread into what you write on this forum. Your anger in your initial post was not a normal reaction for this kind of thread. I can see being upset if you don't agree, but there are ways to deal with your anger and get your point across without attacking. It does not serve your point-of-view well. Instead of riding on emotions, learn the facts and form your opinions accordingly. This is what makes interesting threads and allows people to discuss and even debate in a civilized fashion, natch.

Don't try to bury your head in the sand and act like this war does not exist for even one moment. Our troops cannot escape the reality of war and God forbid that the little horse cannot go to a forum, in the comfort of her home, and not find the war. War is serious business and I will not try to escape what is going on. Our soldiers are living it 24/7 and I would feel a tad uneasy about trying to escape simple discussions that pose no threat to me whatsoever. Seems a little "off" to me. Sorry that you can't escape the war and just choose to read some "thank-you's" to our troops on this forum. At least you don't have terrorists outside your door trying to poision and kill you. At least you can voice your opinion publicly where it be on the internet or in a demonstration and not have to worry about having your loved ones killed and beaten for what you have done. You can thank Mr. Bush and all our allies for protecting all of us Americans from threats like that.

[char]

I have posted a "Blessings" topic in the SMALL TALK area of the discussion board. I don't have the "power" to move the topic.
I hope e can all state our thoughts, opinions and feelings there without calling each other names and finding fault with another person's ideas. We all have the right to voice our opinions without being attacked for them.
Char

[TheWatchman]

Char,

If you can delete a topic, you should be able to move it. Forgive me if I am explaining the obvious.... Go to the archive/move link at the bottom of the page and then you have to "check" where it says "Transfer topic to this forum". Then "check" "delete topic from current forum after transferring". Go to the right, in the same table, and use the drop down box and choose the "small talk" forum to transfer to. Make sure the username and password is correct and it should work.

Maybe you already tried this and it didn't work. My forum is almost exactly the same as this and moderators are able to use this function. Maybe the webmaster has it set-up where you can't but I that wouldn't make sense because you are able to delete threads.

[brink]

Reading this thread has been a little like listening to your neighbors fighting. Thank you Bill and Watchman for keeping some rational thinking going here. I know that this forum is about Gord and that VBH feels we should not bring up the war going on, but in a convoluted way Gord had his opinions on war and sang about it. We don't fault him for that. So in a round about way our opinions about the war are related to a GL topic. VBH if you don't want to read or hear about the war, leave your computer, tv and radio off and don't read the paper. Don't have a conversation with anyone. The war is here and it is on people's mind I don't know anyone in this war, I did go through the Vietnam war and the following debates. Let people voice what they need to, we are all friends here. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

[BILLW]

Well at least we know the "move" thing works. Good job Char.

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[gwen snyder]

Hello, all. Watchman, Violet Blue Horse is very concerned for the safety of her loved one and sometimes denial that a risk or unsafe element is the way one can accept and live with this issue. If it works Violet Blue, I wish you peace. Man, we are full of tensions here and just everywhere, please take a moment to be respectful of each and everyone's feelings, I would feel terrible if Violet Blues' niece was harmed in these events that encompass our world today. Watchman, you need to use a moment to realize what her life will be like without her niece. Yeah, her niece is just one little Airman (that's a G.I. Air Force style), but, obviously tha hole it would leave in Violet Blues' life would be a crater. In a sensitive vein, I pray for her and I will pray for her and each of our valiant military members every night until this event is over. But, let us not attck one another now, let us realize the peace Violet Blue is looking for and let us try to help her deal with her issue, if that means we talk gently, let's. Just for now! Until this killing event is over, just let's. How can we say we understand and enjoy a mans' music that gently guided our thoughts to the ideas of war and protest of war? We can only say we understand by compassion...and that displayed towards one another.
Gwen

[This message has been edited by gwen snyder (edited March 26, 2003).]